ThatGuy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Re: Trump and Desantis working "together' via insults: In the immortal words of LAUGH-IN's Artie Johnson, "very interesting..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Very interesting . . . I concur. Trump, Desanctimonious in 2024 as his running mate? As Arti Jonson, said, "Very funny." But, ya know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Fake elections cannot become normalized in the USA But they are becoming normalized. When Kat and I voted this last time, they gave us a Sharpie and the ink bled all the way through to the other side of the ballot, not as tiny blotches, but very close to mirror images of the other side. Kat complained and got a ball point pen, but I didn't. When she gave her ballot to the guy at the tabulator, he had a fit. He said ball point pens damage the tabulator and was shocked one of the election workers gave her that pen. He told me that the machine doesn't count the mirror images on the other side of the ballot because the ink was dry by that point. For God's sake, what crap. Was that even worth making a stink about? We were in the mafia's den. Both Kat and I wondered why we bothered voting. It was rigged, packaged and delivered by the time we got there. If people want to see the USA become Venezuela, all we need to do is ignore the threat of fake elections. And the threat of them becoming normalized. Don't think the USA can't turn into a failed country like Venezuela. Just look at history when people ignored threats to their rules and social structures. Entire civilizations have fallen this way. Michael 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Cross-posted from the "Bitcoin and Crypto and Defi and Sometimes Ayn Rand" thread.. "NEW - FTX crypto exchange implosion took down Democrats’ second-biggest donor — only George Soros topped Sam Bankman-Fried's donations." and "Oops. Sam Bankman-Fried’s implosion took down Democrats’ second-biggest donor with it as the party gears up to regulate crypto" Oops. Sam Bankman-Fried's implosion took down Democrats' second-biggest donor with it as the party gears up to regulate crypto. FORTUNE.COM The CEO of struggling crypto exchange FTX was the party’s second-biggest individual donor in the 2021–2022 election cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 For the "TL-DR" crowd... In a nutshell: "Sam Bankman-Fried attempted to monopolize an entire industry and deploy it into the hands of the ruling class. His Ponzi blew up spectacularly after a successfully executed speculative attack. The demise of FTX should be a cause for celebration." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 I subscribe to Michael Yon, the badass journalist who lives in trouble spots all over the world. He just emailed to recommend this video by Salty Cracker. The gist is this. Avoid going to where they are counting the ballots in Arizona to protest. The reason they put up the fences, the barbed wire, the drones and all of it is to make it look like they are preparing for a terrorist attack. But Kari Lake has her people all over the count, including some of the most badass lawyers on planet earth. The bad guys running the counting know which ballots are going to swing for Kari, so they shoved them to the back of the line and they are slow-walking the count just hoping a protest will happen so they can scream: "MAGA terrorist attack!" What will that do? That will allow them to justify throwing Kari's people out of the counting area. Then they will be able to do their ballot-switching shenanigans. Salty said, instead of getting pissed from the propaganda and slow-walked count, then going to protest with concealed carry and mad slogans, go to Kari's place and celebrate. The media will not be able to say MAGA is dejected and thinking about violence against Democrats and blah blah blah if they see a bunch of happy MAGA people having a ball celebrating Kari's upcoming victory. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 THE HILL is reportedly projecting Cortez Masto the winner in Nevada, and thus securing the Senate for the Democrats...how is that??? How is one seat doing that? I thought much more were still needed?** #BREAKING: Cortez Masto wins in Nevada, securing Democratic control of Senate Cortez Masto wins in Nevada, securing Democratic control of Senate TRIB.AL Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) is projected to defeat Republican Adam Laxalt, putting an end to a nail-biter of a race and ensuring... Cortez Masto wins in Nevada, securing Democratic control of Senate THEHILL.COM Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) is projected to defeat Republican Adam Laxalt, putting an end to a nail-biter of a race and ensuring... "Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) is projected to defeat Republican Adam Laxalt, putting an end to a nail-biter of a race and ensuring Democrats will maintain their Senate majority. NBC News and CBS News both called the race around 9:18 pm. ET." **PJ Media was saying earlier today: "So where do things stand now? Currently, at the time of this writing, Democrats have won 198 House seats compared to the GOP’s 210 seats. That leaves 27 seats that have yet to be called, and the Republican Party only needs to win eight of them to reach the 218 seats needed for the majority." The Battle for Control of the House: Where Things Stand PJMEDIA.COM It’s been several days since Election Day, and we don’t know yet which party will control the U.S. Senate. According to Decision Desk HQ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Hmmm...ok, I was thinking there was more to win re the Senate, but that's the House, with the 218 needed to Win. The Senate needs 51. According to the latest count, per the Guardian: Dems are at 50, Republicans at 49, with 51 needed to win. Ugh. "After flipping a Senate seat in Pennsylvania, the Democrats hampered Republican hopes of controlling the upper house. This could depend on the December election in Georgia after the Senate race there advanced to a run-off." Not sure what the Guardian means though, about the Dems controlling the house if there's still one more needed... US midterm elections results 2022: live WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Full live results of the Congressional midterms, seat by seat, as Democrats retain control of the Senate while control of the House of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 TG, It ain't over until it's over. A news company does not decide election results. Remember the primaries. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: TG, It ain't over until it's over. A news company does not decide election results. Remember the primaries. Michael Well, that's what I'm mean; where do they get off reporting that??? Especially because of this: Democrats* 50+1 Republicans -1 49 51 to win** *includes independents **vice-president (Dem) has casting vote ***Alaska not called but winner will be Republican 34 of 35 races called What am I missing? If "Alaska is not called, but winner will be Republican", wouldn't that make it 50-50, once called? Or is that already included in the 49, and then, we're just waiting on Georgia? (I see leftists crowing on Twitter as if it's all a done deal, now...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThatGuy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Ah...here's what I was missing: "The win for Cortez Masto also meant Democrats would keep control of the Senate. "The AP concluded Cortez Masto’s lead would carry even if Republican Adam Laxalt made gains in rural Nevada counties that are still counting votes. "Her victory allows the Democrats to retain control the Senate with at least 50 seats because of Vice President Kamala Harris' tiebreaking vote even without a victory in the Georgia runoff in December." !@#%. Why AP called Nevada Senate race for Catherine Cortez Masto WWW.MSN.COM The Associated Press called the Nevada Senate race for Democrat Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto on Saturday after a batch of votes from the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlylogical Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I subscribe to Michael Yon, the badass journalist who lives in trouble spots all over the world. He just emailed to recommend this video by Salty Cracker. The gist is this. Avoid going to where they are counting the ballots in Arizona to protest. The reason they put up the fences, the barbed wire, the drones and all of it is to make it look like they are preparing for a terrorist attack. But Kari Lake has her people all over the count, including some of the most badass lawyers on planet earth. The bad guys running the counting know which ballots are going to swing for Kari, so they shoved them to the back of the line and they are slow-walking the count just hoping a protest will happen so they can scream: "MAGA terrorist attack!" What will that do? That will allow them to justify throwing Kari's people out of the counting area. Then they will be able to do their ballot-switching shenanigans. Salty said, instead of getting pissed from the propaganda and slow-walked count, then going to protest with concealed carry and mad slogans, go to Kari's place and celebrate. The media will not be able to say MAGA is dejected and thinking about violence against Democrats and blah blah blah if they see a bunch of happy MAGA people having a ball celebrating Kari's upcoming victory. Michael My very old slightly left leaning father once called FOX News nothing but Rhetoric. I wonder if instead of hyperbole this is closer to the truth than I was willing to believe, for different reasons. What if the thing does not want a single narrative ? what if a dynamic is more behaviourally useful to them? what if the Thing is playing all sides? What if Fox news IS the kindling and the smoking tinder, priming part of the population to react to the barbed wire? What if the Thing has one hand in left media and the other pupetting the Right media … both to nudge and agitate from both directions? The individuals need not even know why they are allowed or not allowed to push certain things … as long as it is orchestrated properly it creates the right dynamic. Useful idiots speak and protest and act… the dominos fall into place. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: The gist is this. Avoid going to where they are counting the ballots in Arizona to protest. Tactics change ... Here's Charlie Kirk's recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Senators Angus from Maine and Bernie from Vermont are "Independents." edit. And Kamala can break a 50-50 tie, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 This is indicative of the entire shit-show from the mainstream media right now. Kari Lake posted this 2 hours ago. And posted by Kari from 5 hours ago. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 I've been thinking about the perception of magic tricks and here's a technique that is playing out right now, right in front of us, but it's not in the predator class's favor. It works like this. A magician distracts the audience with a lot of patter and one hand making a lot of motion on something super-interesting. Maybe some stagecraft with assistants, too. The other hand, the one not perceived at the time, does the trick. So, leading up to the midterms, we were all were led to imagine the Democrat Party was toast and that Biden will be impeached, etc. etc. etc. (Actually, I still believe that last is a good possibility.) Also, people are noticing on the Biden end that student loan forgiveness is not possible--suddenly after the election. That the FXT thing exploded--suddenly after the election. There's a whole bunch of stuff like that happening--suddenly after the election. And there is still more stuff to come. But now for the not-perceived hand. What needs to happen for Trump to get elected in 2024? And what will he need in 2024 in order to make long-lasting and drastic changes to the government, that is, drain the swamp? He, we all, will need an election system that is not corrupt for the most part. So while everybody is focused on the shenanigans of the different people doing election fraud, and all the exaggerations and lying and yelling going on, there is something being snuck through with the other hand. People who--in January--will have the power to get legally binding results on proving the election system is compromised by corrupt voting machines and different fraud schemes, and then change them, are being snuck in without much comment. Once those changes are in place, the 2024 elections will have a far better outcome than the midterms in providing an overwhelming majority of elected people who want to end the cheating, in other words, Trump people. Why? Because the voting systems will be changed at that point. The predator class can't win if it can't cheat. So Trump will get elected. A huge majority in both houses of Congress will get elected. From there much good will happen. In the case of Kari Lake, she is the most visible person who is laser-focused on election fraud, including getting to the bottom of 2020, but she is by far not the only one. Still, once she is sworn in as governor, she will be one of these people to provide such proof. And after one state falls, the rest will come tumbling down due to the judicial system and case law, not to mention the political push that will happen all over America. Just look at the growth of the crowds during this go around. That's just a warm-up for what is coming once there are fair elections. So while the yapping is going on amidst a whole bunch of noise, there is a signal underneath that makes the difference. It's easy to get distracted by the noise, but the signal is there and it is strong. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, ThatGuy said: Not sure what the Guardian means though, about the Dems controlling the house if there's still one more needed... [Misread this as pertaining to Senate, charged ahead ...] A 50-49 'win' doesn't grant the winner party all the levers of Senate power, according to Senate rules. In a nutshell, because the Senate is a "perpetual quorum" body, no changes are expected in its organization ... unless and until its composition changes the previous balance. Quote That is because the Senate, being a perpetual body that always has a quorum (only one-third are up for reelection every two years), does not automatically reorganize at the start of a new Congress, but only after it passes the organizing resolution to reflect the new reality imposed by the last election. [link] The old 'reality' was fifty-fifty. In December that reality might be ratified in a Georgia run-off. It might not. Vice-presidents can only cast a vote as president of the Senate when there is a tie. And unless the Democrats install Warnock, the tie -- and its framework of balanced power will remain, thus giving no extra advantage ... Biden's main function then will be to send a stream of judicial appointments for confirmation. Edited November 14, 2022 by william.scherk Misread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 It's something... "KEY HOLD: Incumbent David Schweikert (R) defeats Jevin Hodge (D) in Arizona's 1st Congressional. This is critical win for the GOP as it is now looking more and more certain the party will recapture the House majority." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 hours ago, william.scherk said: Vice-presidents can only cast a vote as president of the Senate when there is a tie. And unless the Democrats install Warnock, the tie -- and its framework of balanced power will remain, thus giving no extra advantage ... Well if the Senate goes 50-50 Kamala better get a good pair of sneakers to swing the vote. Will the same thing occur in 2024? I think pollsters should be talking to women voters, especially of a young age. Nowadays it only takes one percent to flip an election. Peter From Time: . . . . What happened in Michigan was just the most visible example of a phenomenon that reverberated across the country since the Supreme Court’s decision in June to overturn half a century of abortion rights. Voters who supported reproductive freedom turned out for Democrats in the midterms, blunting what was widely expected to be a Republican wave. Abortion came in a close second to inflation as voters’ most important issue, according to NBC News exit polls, with 76% of Democrats listing abortion as their top concern. Among women voters, white college educated voters, early voters, and Latino voters, abortion was their number one issue, according to the NBC exit polls. More than 6 in 10 voters— including 27% of Republicans— said they were dissatisfied with the Supreme Court’s Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision that overturned Roe v. Wade. And while it may be days until there is solid data on youth turnout, veteran pollster John Della Volpe says his surveys showed that young women and college students boosted their enthusiasm in the aftermath of Dobbs, potentially enough to offset the conservative voters in older generations in certain races . . . . end Time quote What’s the solution, President Trump? Oh? Seriously, you give me a movie quote? “Look, I ain’t in this for your revolution, and I am not in it for you, Princess.” Han Solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Peter, That's reassuring. I'm so glad it was all about abortion and not about election cheating in Michigan. I can believe in America again. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 11 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I can believe in America again. I can't think of an actual, mannish example of the reversal of Roe, and how it might change of the one to ten percenter of males who aren't sure who they are going to vote for in 2024. However, I think the reversal of Roe v. Wade will affect and lower the future count of the female vote, as I think it has happened in 2020. Hmmm? Maybe they outlaw men getting snipped so they can't fertilize a woman? I think they have punished rapists and pedaphiles in the past by doing that. "Off with their heads?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Peter said: I think they have punished rapists and pedaphiles in the past by doing that. "Off with their heads?" Off-topic, but salient to women and their control by self-appointed Guardians. In Iran, the Majlis passed a law that provides for prompt execution of 15,000 detained anti-hijab protesters ... and has begun the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlylogical Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, william.scherk said: but salient to women and their control by self-appointed Guardians ?? Ok "Off topic... but similar to the Communist Revolution...." I don't buy it. Start a new thread please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 7:21 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: TG, I'm pretty sure she's done. Oh, she will be well taken care of by the Dems, but she is done power-wise. She is now irrelevant. She is yesterday, not today (except until January), not tomorrow. She knows, too. She went to Egypt. Michael Like the horror movies tell us, never count the killer out until you see the body...(and even then...)"Why Don’t These People Ever Go Away? Nancy Pelosi Likely Staying on as House Democrat Leader" Why Don’t These People Ever Go Away? Nancy Pelosi Likely Staying on as House Democrat Leader PJMEDIA.COM In our two-tier justice system today, Pelosi would need only fear investigation, to say nothing of prosecution, if she had an R after her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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