Ukraine and Endless War for Profit


Michael Stuart Kelly

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"JUST IN 🚨 NATO to kick off nuclear drills involving B-52 bombers on Monday - Reuters"


Well then... to quote the movie OFFICE SPACE, "sounds like someone's got a case of 'The Mondays'..."
 

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NATO said on Friday it would launch its annual nuclear exercise "Steadfast Noon" on Monday, with up to 60 aircraft taking part in...

 

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5 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

"Putin Moves Nuclear Bombers to NATO Border"
 

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has moved 11 nuclear bombers 115 miles from a NATO border, elevating concerns that a tactical nuclear...

 

In my estimation it seems pretty clear that Putin is not accepting their bluff.

Remember when NK spoke of their weapons and Trump said that his button was bigger than theirs.

I know most will not agree with me but I think that Putin showing strength here is what is needed to stop this ridiculousness going on with Biden, The Ukraine and all the other bad actors.

I am not comcerned.

Plus Trump is back in literally weeks, not months and THEY all know that there will be hell to pay.

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5 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

Let's revisit this statement in literally weeks, shall we?

I mean via a MAGA sweep in the midterms.

Will he be in the Oval office in weeks, no.

Will he be the most important person politically in both Houses in weeks, 100% for sure unless they cancel the elections, in which case he would even be in more control actually.

President pre 2024, absolutely.

The 2020 election was a fraud.

 

 

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1 hour ago, anthony said:

Al Qaeda and ISIS in Ukraine? Give peace talks a chance. And more

Tony,

I only saw 10 minutes of the video and it made me want to spit in disgust at the current American government administration and the predator class in general.

It's not just that Al Qaeda and ISIS are in Ukraine. It's that the tax dollars in all these packages from the USA are paying for them.

Oh, Germany pays this and Spain pays that and so on, but underneath, is there any doubt that is a result of the money being shuffled around?

Good God!

Michael

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To be fair, the following is just a tweet, probably uninformed, and in need of a state fact-checker...who's got the rationalization- I mean, "full context"?
 

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(Supporting Neo-Nazis (ahem, I mean, "freedom fighters") in order NOT to be labeled a Russia supporter...it's a hell of a time to be alive, I tells ya, a hell of a time...)


 

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Several American white supremacists were allegedly radicalized by and received training from Ukraine’s...

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LOS ANGELES — According to a recent FBI indictment, several American white supremacists were allegedly radicalized by and received training from Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, which receives funding from the current government of Ukraine as well as the U.S. government. The group has also received weapons from the Israeli government.

The indictment, filed in Los Angeles, California last month, asserts that four American members of the “Rise Above Movement” (RAM) — RAM co-founder Robert Rundo as well as Robert Boman, Tyler Laube and Aaron Eason — had “violently attacked and assaulted counter-protestors” at several white nationalist and white supremacist events throughout the U.S., including the violent “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville last year.

 

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17 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Tony,

I only saw 10 minutes of the video and it made me want to spit in disgust at the current American government administration and the predator class in general.

It's not just that Al Qaeda and ISIS are in Ukraine. It's that the tax dollars in all these packages from the USA are paying for them.

Oh, Germany pays this and Spain pays that and so on, but underneath, is there any doubt that is a result of the money being shuffled around?

Good God!

Michael

Michael, Somewhere about 16 it first dawned on me, what had been taken for granted by the adults it seemed, how like no other country the USA had funded, supported, rescued, been sending American soldiers (etc) to other places for as long as historical accounts and ongoing events I heard of in the world, and I thought how strange -  why? And where does the money come from? Must be the taxpayers from their earnings. So, why on Earth do the people of the US automatically owe anything to "other places" and people? Like a birth-duty. Later, Rand explained and I began to understand, for not only the US, the universal doctrine, "self-immolation". One that's almost as bad for other places/people who receive and become addicted and resentfully entitled to the largesse with little gratitude.

Foreign Affairs

"We do need a policy based on long-range principles, i.e., an ideology. But a revision of our foreign policy, from its basic premises on up, is what today’s anti-ideologists dare not contemplate. The worse its results, the louder our public leaders proclaim that our foreign policy is *bipartisan*.

"A proper solution would be to elect statesmen—if such appeared—with a radically different foreign policy, a policy explicitly and proudly dedicated to the defense of America’s rights and national self-interests, repudiating foreign aid and all forms of international self-immolation".

“The Wreckage of the Consensus,”

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This has been a puzzle. Leftists, usually antiwar, and neo-cons in unity

 

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By smearing Elon Musk, the Twitter Mob maintains that escalation in Ukraine is the only acceptable view, even if it risks nuclear war.

 

 

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Jack Matlock, the last US ambassador to the USSR, has called for a change of Washington’s policy toward Ukraine

The former ambassador noted that Kiev had multiple opportunities to avert war. He believes that Russia would not have sent troops into Ukraine in February if Kiev “had been willing to abide by the Minsk agreement, recognize the Donbas as an autonomous entity within Ukraine, avoid NATO military advisors, and pledge not to enter NATO.”

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1 hour ago, anthony said:

This has been a puzzle. Leftists, usually antiwar, and neo-cons in unity

 

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By smearing Elon Musk, the Twitter Mob maintains that escalation in Ukraine is the only acceptable view, even if it risks nuclear war.

 

 

Whole world is upside down inside out! 

1984 meets Atlas Shrugged

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17 hours ago, Marc said:

Whole world is upside down inside out! 

1984 meets Atlas Shrugged

I dont think Rand had a keen sense of the other side or the “underside” of, and I hate to call it money or wealth, let’s say riches or spoils, and their long dark connection to predatory power.

At the founding and clear on through to the authoring of AS, there already were from time immemorial spoils and riches of conquest and war and corruption and oppression throughout the world. Millennia of blood, tyranny, slavery, murder, pillaging, and the customs, religions, hereditary traditions, dynasties, families, etc that maintained them and ensured their persistence.

This old money, ill gotten as it is, is passed down used, grown etc.  and the culture, the predatory culture that is associated with it never died away.  It took new forms, courted with, survived and or latched onto, monarchies, religions, Fascism, Socialism, ,Communism, Capitalism as variations of cronyism, influence, corruption.

Today the state of political and economic systems are not a pure contest between political theories balancing the state and the individual, and it never has been.  

The ideologies and the back and forth are a sham and a puppet show…  the money which corrupts is old and evil as are the players and the playbook they are using.  The chumps are honestly trying to move the world closer to utopia, those honestly on the left and the right, both atheists and religious people.  But ideas do not actually move the world… in the end power does.  It is far easier to persuade a "normie" to give up ideas and principles for money and power than it is to do the converse.

It really is not about nihilism, not about the vices of the immature and the incapable or jealousy of the productive, that is a petty squabble among the children.  Men of the mind? Philosophy?  The children can strut and throw tantrums about how rights end at the start of a gun, but in the face of such guns, and all the ill gotten wealth and corruption the world has ever seen, they are but weightless nothings.

This is no debate between Plato and Aristotle at some debate camp, there are no ribbons or trophies to display in your room, this is for keeps and is a contest between Good and Evil. Those whose culture is power and anti-himanity: literally predatory to its core, against those who, whatever their stripes and no matter how misguided, believe in the sacredness humanity.

This larger contest, larger than left versus right, larger than reason versus irrationality, larger than atheism versus religion, larger than atheism versus individualism, larger than philosophy, is a contest of will to absolute tyrannical predatory power versus belief in benevolence and flourishing humanity.

 

This bigger thing is largely absent or fractured in AS… perhaps accidentally glimpsed it is never identified nor brought into wide focus, in all its gargantuan horror.

 

Humanity itself is the enemy of the predator class and it really is a contest of Good versus Evil.

Perhaps ideas are important in the fight against Evil, but that must manifest itself eventually in power, real world power that can be wielded against that Evil.

 

No, it is not the world that is not upside-down or inside-out, it’s just becoming more easy to see that your assumptions about the world, your more ordered and comfortable ones, have been and are.

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2 hours ago, Strictlylogical said:

 It is far easier to persuade a "normie" to give up ideas and principles for money and power than it is to do the converse.

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul?" comes to mind...

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Here's something to think about for those who believe the meddling of the USA and world into the Russia-Ukraine hostilities is all about Putin and making Ukraine safe for democracy--and not about money-laundering.

The UK government has fallen TWICE since the hostilities started not too long ago.

We are talking about one of the main economic capitals of the world.

That's not opinion. That's fact.

 

Did Putin do that?

Or did government money and the predator class?

Hmmmmmm?...

:) 

 

Don't think this can't happen in the USA.

It can.

 

(Side note: Wasn't World War One all about making the world safe for democracy? :) )

Michael

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12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Here's something to think about for those who believe the meddling of the USA and world into the Russia-Ukraine hostilities is all about Putin and making Ukraine safe for democracy--and not about money-laundering.

The UK government has fallen TWICE since the hostilities started not too long ago.

We are talking about one of the main economic capitals of the world.

That's not opinion. That's fact.

 

Did Putin do that?

Or did government money and the predator class?

Hmmmmmm?...

:) 

 

Don't think this can't happen in the USA.

It can.

 

(Side note: Wasn't World War One all about making the world safe for democracy? :) )

Michael

I wonder if the people of Cuba thought it could bever happen in Cuba.

Wonder if the people in Canada could think it could never happen in Canada.

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"BREAKING: Democratic lawmakers are urging President Biden to dramatically shift his strategy on the Ukraine war and pursue direct negotiations with Russia, the first time prominent members of his own party have pushed him to change his approach to Ukraine, Washington Post reports"
 

 

 

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The government insists an oligarch's luxury yacht can dock, but Cape Town's mayor wants to block it.

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