Ukraine and Endless War for Profit


Michael Stuart Kelly

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2 hours ago, tmj said:

So we have to take out Putin in order to get Ukraine to stop bombing Poland ?

"It would appear so, Captain..."

JUST IN - Poland's president says it's "very likely" missile blast was from the Ukrainian air defense, calling it an "unfortunate accident."
 

"UKRAINE tried to start WW3 yesterday when a UKRAINIAN missile struck a NATO country and killed innocent civilians. Ukrainian leaders LIED and BLAMED RUSSIA. The AP wrote it up unquestioningly. Ukrainian Leaders LIED to try and initiate full-blown WW3. These are the facts."
 
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2 hours ago, tmj said:

So we have to take out Putin in order to get Ukraine to stop bombing Poland ?

Wow, they're really going there...talk about audacity...
 

NOW - Russia "ultimately responsible" for Poland missile blast, whatever the final conclusion may be, says Austin.

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A "Russian - built missile" from the Soviet era, is true but irrelevant. That's apparently the system Ukraine have stocks of and still uses for air defense, the old Russian S300. The Russians exclusively use an updated version today.

Albeit that Kyiv has been steadily and deliberately killing civilians until now in Donetsk with the expensive US-donated Himars.

"Russian-built", as stated accusingly by the Polish PM, is a sleazy trick to inflame ignorant people of guilt by association, i.e. therefore, it may or could also have been "Russian"-aimed and fired.

English commentator A. Mercouris points out. 

https://youtu.be/6nODdPlw3PU

 

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What's the rough estimate of Al-Mayadeen's editorial line?  

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BUCHA, Ukraine (AP) — The first man arrived at 7:27 a.m. Russian soldiers covered his head and marched him up the driveway toward a nondescript office building. Two minutes later, a pleading, gagged...

 

 

 

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https://www.rt.com/news/566937-nato-ukraine-stoltenberg-talks/

Send more arms to achieve peace... How does an amoral concretist become NATO chief? He hasn't heard of 'guns don't kill people, people kill people'. You need men with the will and the skill to fight, along with the tools. And Ukraine's soldiers are running low after huge losses, some disobeying orders or deserting, and there are less experienced men able to use the weapons and will get themselves killed trying. From the beginning to pump in weapons only intensified and lengthened the fighting and delayed the inevitable. Now the outcome is dawning on Stoltenberg it seems, in order to attempt to gain parity, some bargaining position at the negotiation table, Ukrainians must suicidally fight on, to hold - or win back - territory, apparently. But it was always crucial to not arrive at the point where either Russia or Ukraine would be forced to capitulate. Anyway whoever 'won', parts of Ukraine would be wrecked. The Kremlin has kept its doors open to a ceasefire and a realistic settlement at every stage - but the warlike Alliance believed they would gain a glorious battle victory and rejected them. No one has realized that Russia's efforts have been tightly self-restrained this far. Now, with the first conventional offensive by sufficient Russian troops coming this Winter, having eventually laid the ground work and badly degrading the Ukraine power grid, military infrastructure, transport and communications (as 'normal' warfare specifies), the gloves come off and it might be too late to talk.

Another warmongering fantasist, Josep Borrell, EU: "This war will be decided on the battlefield". Quite, but not how he envisaged.

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Remember those Russian missiles that hit Poland and almost started World War III? 

Oh, yeah. I don't either.

I do remember news stories saying this, though.

 

Now there's this. Something is now happening that hasn't happened for while.

They fired the reporter who made up the Russian part.

They fired him because of a fake news story.

Dayaamm!

If they keep that up, they will have to replace their entire staff...

:)

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

hey fired him because of a fake news story.

HOW in hell did he think he would get away with that? He knew the truth . . . yet for a few seconds he defined reality . . . until the truth came out . . .  WHAT a maroon. Bugs Bunny.

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6 hours ago, Peter said:

HOW in hell did he think he would get away with that? He knew the truth . . . yet for a few seconds he defined reality . . . until the truth came out . . .  WHAT a maroon. Bugs Bunny.

Every one of these news stories are fake and the simple reality is that for the most part they get away with most of them.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Marc said:

Every one of these news stories are fake and the simple reality is that for the most part they get away with most of them.

 

 

Comes that time the created celeb believes his own constructed image is for real.

Polish farm, "Russian" missile, crying wolf and other tall tales (that theater):

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With Kiev exposed for a lie that could have triggered a third world war, it is time to examine past deceptions that Western media promoted.

 

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On 11/22/2022 at 12:56 PM, anthony said:

With Kiev exposed for a lie that could have triggered a third world war, it is time to examine past deceptions that Western media promoted.

Satellite imagery does show Kiev is dark because power plants were destroyed, and another news story says women were raped by Russian's who were ordered to do it to demoralize the population. The Ukrainian women protesting had large tears drawn on their faces. And everyone should give credence to the fact that Russia invaded, murdered, and tried to set Ukraine up as their territory. Oh gee. Is that a fake story too? You Ukes leave Moscow alone!

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"The former ambassador [Jack Matlock] noted that Kiev had multiple opportunities to avert war. He believes that Russia would not have sent troops into Ukraine in February if Kiev “had been willing to abide by the Minsk agreement, recognize the Donbas as an autonomous entity within Ukraine, avoid NATO military advisors, and pledge not to enter NATO.”"

Oct 18, 2022

 

 

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Jack Matlock, the last US ambassador to the USSR, has called for a change of Washington’s policy toward Ukraine

 

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4 hours ago, Peter said:

Satellite imagery does show Kiev is dark because power plants were destroyed, and another news story says women were raped by Russian's who were ordered to do it to demoralize the population. The Ukrainian women protesting had large tears drawn on their faces. And everyone should give credence to the fact that Russia invaded, murdered, and tried to set Ukraine up as their territory. Oh gee. Is that a fake story too? You Ukes leave Moscow alone!

How about the Russians and the missiles in Poland, is that still true Peter? 

 

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7 hours ago, Peter said:

Satellite imagery does show Kiev is dark because power plants were destroyed, and another news story says women were raped by Russian's who were ordered to do it to demoralize the population. The Ukrainian women protesting had large tears drawn on their faces. And everyone should give credence to the fact that Russia invaded, murdered, and tried to set Ukraine up as their territory. Oh gee. Is that a fake story too? You Ukes leave Moscow alone!

The normal diet of half-truths, deception, leaving out significant facts, minimising and magnifying deeds etc, for mass emotional appeal which is only found in the main media.

Think: *A Hostage Situation*.

It is very apparent in retrospect, Putin was faced with staying out - and letting the Donbas Russian-Ukrainians be brutalized, (the Right Sector and neo-Nazi thugs) slaughtered, driven out or rounded up in camps - or going in to rescue them. Hard decision, assuming he understood the high price Russia would have to pay.

But he's intelligent and apparently rational, future-oriented. He must additionally have known the situation would only worsen re: Russia's security by doing nothing - once the Donbas inevitably fell this year. With a rampant, victorious, large and well-trained and -armed UAF directly at the Russian border. And eventually with Ukraine's NATO admittance and what that implies.

So he went in. With his minimal invasion. Still counting on Kyiv recognizing the good sense of peace negotiations along Minsk lines. Which was a near outcome until Boris Johnson the immoral little sneak more or less black-mailed and bribed Zelensky into dropping out of the talks: Because we can beat Russia! (Who is this "we" white man?) Boris must take a large part of the blame for all the deaths that transpired afterward.

Yeah, what's been fed to us is "a fake story".  That left out most. Predicated on "Russians-evil". 

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On 11/21/2022 at 11:20 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

They fired the reporter who made up the Russian part.

They fired him because of a fake news story.

It turns out that they fired him because they used him as the fall guy.

 

Fired AP Reporter Who 'Risked Triggering WWIII' Actually Did Nothing Wrong

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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

 

Higher-ups made the call to blame Russia for the Ukrainian missiles shot at Poland.

This guy was scapegoated to cover their asses.

Michael

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Yup.

It started as a racket and it's soon going to end as a racket.

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'War Is A Racket': Posobiec & Bannon Break Down Why Globalists Need Ukraine War To Become Another 'Forever' War

 

The gist is that Russia has the capability of sending wave after wave after wave of ground assaults, including tanks. Poso called it depth reserves or something like that. And he said this is the way Russia has always fought.

But there's more. Coming right around the corner is winter. That is another way Russia has fought. Poso said if you don't believe him, ask Napoleon and Hitler.

 

But the money is the real gist of it all.

Biden and the predators in Congress are trying to get all the money they can out of this turkey before the new congress takes over in January.

It's all about the money and nothing more.

 

Oh... 

I forgot.

They're starting to leave Zelensky holding the bag as they put whatever they can get into their own pockets. They're going to leave him high and dry.

I would feel good about that as comeuppance, but I feel bad for the Ukrainian people this winter. Both for the snow and for the tanks what will be coming in strategic waves.

 

I never thought I would believe anything with the CCP is a good thing, but the good news for Ukraine is that Russia is in the CCP's pocket right now. So maybe Russia won't be as hostile as it normally is since the CCP wants in on the world's action in Ukraine.

Michael

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There's a saying in Hollywood corrupt producers like to use when someone asks about their finances.

They say: "It's all on the screen." 

They are saying all the money in the budget went to make the movie.

Well, we can be glad the Ukrainian money is all on the screen.

Don't believe me?

Here's proof.

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Michael

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Just look at this shit.

Let's make it real clear.

Biden traded an American basketball player who loathes America for the world's most deadly and effective Russian black market arms dealer. And he sent a few more biliions over to Ukraine.

How is this going to turn out?

She will come back to the USA and bitch at us about how evil we are. The Merchant of Death dude will get released on Ukraine (from Russia) to pick up all the US weapons that get abandoned or sold by Ukrainians and intermediaries. To do what?

To fight Ukraine, of course.

:) 

At least The Big Guy's getting his ten percent on all sides...

Michael

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