Ukraine and Endless War for Profit


Michael Stuart Kelly

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Tony,

I embedded the videos for you.

The links you provided have a different format than the normal YouTube links that do embed.

I looked into it and discovered why this might be. I think you are getting links from "Share" feature under the video. Notice that these links do not have the word "watch" in the URLs. God knows why YT started doing it this way, but they did.

There is an easy cure for this. When the video is loaded, go to the top of the browser and use the URL that is in the URL field. You will see that it has the word "watch" in it.

To embed on OL, just paste that link and press enter.

:) 

 

NOTE: As to RFK Jr. on these wars, my thoughts are these: "What he said." :)

(One caveat. RFK Jr. is a lousy leftie in many things. I agree with him on the Jab and wars and a few other things. He ain't getting the second amendment changed, though. :) )

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For the Taiwan election, Breitbart took for-friggin'-ever to post an article about it, but they finally did. (Who in hell over there is getting CCP money?)

WWW.BREITBART.COM

Anti-communist Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) candidate Lai Ching-te won Taiwan's presidential election.

 

It seemed like there was a media shadow-ban of this story all day long. Inside of mainland China, the CCP outright banned this story. That indicates they pressured Western media to downplay this election.

Some Western journalists get pissed by this, but far too many of them are bought and paid for by the CCP. The owners of far too many mainstream media companies certainly are.

Michael

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I'm going to delete the Putin interview post above that I embedded from the Tucker thread. I was having a real problem getting the computer to respond, probably due to the massive traffic on X, so I was trying different ways to make it work.

And I am going to repost the interview with a direct embed from X just like in the Tucker thread.

Just so there is no issue with X, I am embedding the interview from a different X account.

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After all of the controversy in this thread, and in the different medias for that matter, this is probably the most important post of all.

Agree or disagree with Putin, at least now people can see and hear him in his own words in a true unedited interview.

People can make up their own minds.

What a concept!

:) 

Michael

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This is an interesting take philosophy-wise.

Do we look at reality or do we dismiss reality when putting together a narrative?

And by reality, I mean something about as basic and elementary as input to eyesight.

Eyesight, fer kreeiiiiisakes.

The reporter basically told Kirby (my paraphrase): You keep saying Putin is encroaching on the NATO West. And that is the reason for funding and promoting war against him.

Yet who has advanced over the years, NATO or Putin?

Kirby responds with mumble mumble mumble. And the reporter asks again, Who has advanced over the years? Kirby responds with mumble mumble mumble. The reporter asks again, Who has advanced over the years? Kirby finally said, Yeah NATO did.

And then he hauled out the "but eraser." This is when you say "but" to invalidate and erase what you said before.

:) 

 

So which will it be?

A narrative based on reality? Or a narrative based on whim? (Elitist Military-Industrial Complex whim at that.)

The large number of dead no longer care, but we can avoid more dead by using reality as the standard instead of whim.

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On 2/10/2024 at 8:11 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

This is an interesting take philosophy-wise.

Do we look at reality or do we dismiss reality when putting together a narrative?

And by reality, I mean something about as basic and elementary as input to eyesight.

Eyesight, fer kreeiiiiisakes.

The reporter basically told Kirby (my paraphrase): You keep saying Putin is encroaching on the NATO West. And that is the reason for funding and promoting war against him.

Yet who has advanced over the years, NATO or Putin?

Kirby responds with mumble mumble mumble. And the reporter asks again, Who has advanced over the years? Kirby responds with mumble mumble mumble. The reporter asks again, Who has advanced over the years? Kirby finally said, Yeah NATO did.

And then he hauled out the "but eraser." This is when you say "but" to invalidate and erase what you said before.

:) 

 

So which will it be?

A narrative based on reality? Or a narrative based on whim? (Elitist Military-Industrial Complex whim at that.)

The large number of dead no longer care, but we can avoid more dead by using reality as the standard instead of whim.

Michael

My Ayn Randian type comment: "Always acknowledge the entire game-board."

Postulate:  The Russian high command was never seriously worried about Eastern European countries becoming members of NATO.

Looking back historically I see that, in a manner of speaking the entire Western Civilization "project" can be imagined as a large "GO" stone, covering about 30 "points" on a GO board ...... whose destiny was to throw off money and technology and stability to the socialist bloc.

Postulate:   The Soviets had a plan, it's more visible manifestations began with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Western Civ. is on its knees.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Putin himself said something I found interesting. He talked about population size.

Russia now has a population size of close to 150 million. And it has the largest country in the world in land mass. It is enormous.

He made it clear that the earlier goal of the Russian communist government, to conquer the world, is no longer the aim of Russia.

And he mentioned that China has a population of 1.2 billion people. And it expands in different manners in all countries throughout the world.

 

In my opinion, I think Putin is happy to use the raw resources and land size of Russia for the benefit of Russian citizens seeing that, in the modern world, states of different political philosophies exist and will continue existing. Instead of conquering the world, Russia gets to be one of the top countries in the world for its citizens.

The old Soviet empire was just too expensive to maintain. That's why it fell apart. Just like the old English empire did. It was too expensive. Instead of getting wealth from the colonized countries, the central empire had to keep an administration and military there. And that costs a lot of money.

For that matter, look how empire-thinking is bleeding the American government dry, and the USA does not even annex other countries and land masses as colonies anymore.

But a gigantic country with a relatively small population (in world terms) to live on it now makes Russia an enormously privileged nation. I think Putin not only sees this, he likes it.

 

The modern western narrative keeps treating Russia as if it were at the beginning of the cold war back in the 1950s. 

I can see why Ayn Rand did that. She was there when the communists took over and her family lost everything to them.

But is the context the same in the modern world after all that has happened? No.

The only reason I can see for this narrative to keep existing is so the the Military-Industrial complex can fleece American coffers with money-laundering in Ukraine. Endless unwinnable wars for profit. And there is a hidden Nazi agenda from the Nazi leftovers both in Ukraine and in high places in governments throughout the world. All this is under the guise of globalism. Or synonyms for the same like Deep State, World Economic Forum and the like.

It's simple when you look at the big picture. Germany lost WWII. The Nazis did not. They went underground in high places.

Notice that Putin said his aim is to de-Nazify places within Russian influence where Nazis are still running things, no matter what they call themselves.

Now, how about the other threat, Chine? As in the NATO argument, look at reality. Which country has a gigantic population and needs more land to put some of those people on? Russia or China? Which country is expanding the world over? Russia or China?

This is not rocket science.

Just look.

The Russian world-domination project fizzled. And nowadays, China is everywhere.

Helloooo...

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16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

look at reality... 

This is not rocket science.

I am glad to see other people in the mainstream talk about observable reality as a thing. And Grenell is not the only one.

"Deal in reality... We see the current wars all around us."

Reality -- observation.

After all, this is not rocket science.

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Heh...

After all the bullshit about Putin and Russia in this thread (mostly mainstream media talking points), check this out.

Granted, the music was a bit over the top, but I know what I feel. After trying to make the case for observation and fact against propaganda for so long, I don't mind a bit of musical snark. :) 

This is the first time I have ever heard heroic orchestral music used for snark, though.

:) 

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Now a reality phase in the war.

WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM

Avdeevka Falls   Could not resist the Lord of the Rings reference because the Russian war correspondent, Marat Khairullin, makes a passing reference in his report below.

 

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... Western ISR makes it virtually impossible to hide the gathering of a large mass of troops because of the “all-seeing eye.” That means satellites, drones and fixed wing aircraft with real time video. Russia has opted to inflict Ukraine with “death from a thousand cuts.” Small scale, shifting attacks employing combined arms that can be launched from hundreds of sites.

The Russians clearly have the initiative and will continue to press the attack at times and places of their choosing along the 1000 mile front. Ukraine simply does not have the manpower — trained personnel — to put up a stout defense.

 

 

And the response from high places in the US government? Some people in Congress want American soldiers to go there and fight and die in this boondoggle if these assholes cannot get more money to embezzle.

America needs to quite using thieves to plan wars.

They always steal money and they always lose wars.

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btw - Does anyone want to eat at a McDonald's in Russia?

Under the massive US sanctions, a McDonald's has to be pirated and suck, right? I mean, we all know Russia is on its last legs as it loses the war against Ukraine, right?

 

Not so fast.

Could the mainstream media be lying to you?

Naaaaaaaah...

They would never do thaaaaaaaat...

 

WWW.BITCHUTE.COM

Taken from Telegram It turns out that “life under sanctions, once Tony Blinken has written your country out of the civilized world” is “not bad.” Here’s what $7.05 gets you at a McDonald’s in Russia, which has been rebranded as ‘Tasty And That’s I…

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After all that blood and embezzled funds sent from the US treasury, and all that propaganda, wanna see how the big guys in the insider crony blob do it?

I mean, major US companies pulled out of Russia because of the war with Ukraine, right?

Sanctions, right?

Er...

Not really...

:) 

As the big guys in the insider crony blob say, "War? What war? This is commerce and Russia has a huge market. Capitalism, baby..."

:) 

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I tried to understand the recent Moscow terror attack at a concert hall, but I gave up. Too much fog of war inconsistencies.

However, for those interested, here is one of the best coverages I found. The Daily Mail isn't always good, but sometimes it is. There you can get plenty of details and overviews of everything about this attack. What I saw seemed reasonable:

Moment Moscow massacre suspects 'were arrested' - as videos show alleged killers of 143 claiming they were paid for the attack as ISIS claims responsibility

WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK

Videos shared online show three different men, who Moscow claims were responsible for the attack at the Crocus City Hall on Friday, being detained by what appears to be soldiers.

 

The attack was ugly.

Kirby warned about this two weeks ago, telling Americans to stay out of concert halls.

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How did he know, Hmmmmm?

Muh ISIS?...

Yeah right...

ISIS is a bad guy, a bad bad actor, that does not give it powers to alter reality.

 

Putin has captured the main terrorists, some low level Tajiiks, and they are giving up everything.

Apropos, Taji is a small town in Iraq where a major US military installation is, now called Camp Cooke. (LATER NOTE: This is wrong. Tajiiks do not come from Taji. Tajiiks come from Tajikistan, Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan and they are descended from Persians. My bad. This error is further corrected in a post below.)

And from the interrogations, these dudes were paid chickenfeed, about $11k each to make the attack.

Poso thinks the attack was botched because the terrorists were supposed to have been killed, not survive.

ISIS terrorists like to go out in a blaze of glory on their way to Heaven with all those virgins. These Tajiiks don't look anything like radical terrorists. They look like they staged a mob hit more than anything else.

So it's looking more and more like the CIA had its finger in this. Just look at the propaganda.

And especially as Victoria Nuland, who is resigning, said Russia was in for some surprises from asymmetric warfare by Ukraine she helped fund. I wonder if the $1.2 trillion funding bill passed last night had anything to do with it because of the timing?... Hmmmmm?...

 

 

Well, we don't know what we don't know, but I'm 100% on board with Catturd's statement:

QUOTE FULL TEXT:

If you believe masks would prevent you from catching a virus - you probably believe the terrorist attack in Russia was ISIS. 

If you believe the 2020 election wasn't rigged - you probably believe the terrorist attack in Russia was ISIS.

If you believe Ivermectin was just horse paste - you probably believe the terrorist attack in Russia was ISIS.

If you believe the Russian pee pee hoax - you probably believe the terrorist attack in Russia was ISIS.

If you believe the vaccine would stop you from catching and spreading COVID - you probably believe the terrorist attack in Russia was ISIS.

If you believe the global warming scam - you probably believe the terrorist attack in Russia was ISIS.

END QUOTE

 

We'll have to wait and see, but this attack is not good for anybody. Not Russia. Not Ukraine. Not ISIS. Not even the damn CIA or Military Industrial Complex. 

They shot up a concert hall and killed concert goers. And after the media flash goes away, that will be that. Nothing will change.

Idiots.

Evil idiots.

Evil fucking idiots.

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Here's a simple timeline to help understand the underbelly of this.

And yesterday the Moscow music concert hall attack.

 

Nuland talked about nasty surprises for Putin on the battlefield.

Guess where the battlefield is for people like her?

Where civilians gather unarmed. Like concert halls. That's where.

A concert hall is not a battlefield.

 

The US military strategy is turning into Al Qaeda and ISIS.

The following sounds silly, but it is perfectly reasonable.

When will there be US citizens and soldiers in suicide vests?

With Big Pharma, behavioral science and AI helping, and the US government funding it all, don't think it can't happen.

Michael

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4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Apropos, Taji is a small town in Iraq where a major US military installation is, now called Camp Cooke. And from the interrogations, these dudes were paid chickenfeed, about $11k each to make the attack.

Holy crap!

Boy did I goof.

I tried looking up what a Tajiik is. All the search engines would give me was Taji, is a small town in Iraq where a major US military installation is. So I went with it and did not look further.

Later, I saw something that set off my antenna, so I dug deeper. There is a country called Tajikistan. What's more, Tajiiks are an ethnic group native to Tajikistan, Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan. They are descended from Persians. Tajiik and Tajik are different spellings for the same people.

The videos of the terrorists look a hell of a lot more like people who come from there than they do from Iraq.

Sorry.

My bad.

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Here is some nuanced propaganda from our side and I am not happy about it.

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1771727021594304875

It looks like the terrorist is trembling in fear of the interrogation. I don't know how much he feared interrogation (a lot I imagine), but I do know it's as cold as all get out where they had him. Russian winter anyone?

This guy is not in warm clothes. So he trembled.

He's scum, but reality is reality.

Why do that? 

When you try to make real evil worse than it is, or make it look like it is cowering in fear when it is not, and call that reality, you empower the evil and reduce the good. And once you get busted, you make the evil seem less evil.

I hate this crap.

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Damn. Would the following be Karma? The article says, after the collapse of the Russia Federation, but I wonder if Russia, would / could, still use nukes? Another great scenario separate from this wish, is maybe some good Samaritan will kill Putin? Poison would be in line with how he kills some of his own people. They could say he died of a brain aneurism caused by excessive evil. “Yeah, that’s the ticket, as John Lovitz,” would say.

From Daily Express US: China is waiting for the Russian Federation to collapse so it can seize a slice of land taken from it by Russia 200 years ago, it has been claimed. Beijing has been a crucial supporter of Vladimir Putin since he invaded Ukraine and was essentially cut off from the Western world due to sanctions.

But Canadian journalist and author Diane Francis believes that China is also preparing to take back a slice of land in the far east of Russia.

Speaking to Times Radio, she explained how the war in Ukraine may have just Beijing-Moscow relations. She said: "China was put in a terrible position. They had an Olympics they were proud of in 2022, and Putin went there and got Xi to sign a partnership agreement without telling him that three days later he was going to genocidally invade his neighboring country. "He never told Xi. This was hugely embarrassing." Mrs. Francis believes the Russian Federation will collapse after the war in Ukraine, allowing China to reclaim land previously under its jurisdiction. She added: "China is very much involved in what happens to Russia after this is over. Many of us speculate that once the center doesn't hold and they lose the war, whoever replaces Putin is not going to be able to hold on to 11 time zones of nation.

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Not sure what they are smoking up North but, Ukraine can't defeat Russia militarily and especially not now. NATO acting in a combined effort may have the ability but Ukraine by itself can't , and realistically never had that ability post '89-91, and obviously not pre those years either. Eg the relatively uncontested annexation of Crimea.

That Xi wouldn't have a pretty good guess as to Putin's maneuvers without Putin actually verbalizing is a little silly , heck even Biden announced what Putin was 'going' to do and said a little incursion wasn't that terrible.

I think Russia and China have an agreement/arrangement , for a while now, that basically says that any territorial disputes along their huge and distant border would be settled via nukes , so basically an agreement to not fuck around in those areas, but maybe that's just a myth , but maybe not.

Can Slavs 'genocide' other Slavs? Killing is killing is killing, genocide is a political accusation.  

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