Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 Ah, come on, William. You know you don't give a shit about Christianity. I don't know for sure, but I imagine you have not read the Bible cover to cover and would consider the effort stupid. You only liked this Pope because he wasn't very Christian, but instead a leftie. Here's a thought for you to go into the New Year with. Imagine the world without Christianity, but with a technocratic left-leaning dictatorship. And people like you in charge. And you could punish anyone you wanted at any time for anything. How awesome would that be? I could go further, but I don't want to give you wet dreams going into the New Year. Banter aside, be well these holidays. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Well Pope emeritus. I think he was the Nazi adjacent pedophile obfuscator, the new guy is the South American commie, no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyau Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I consider this Pope as part of the Deep State. So, while I do not celebrate the death of any human being, I cannot avoid seeing and noting that the world will be far better off without this man in charge of one of mankind's largest religious institutions. And by world, I mean individuals with individual rights. Including the right to worship. Pope Benedict XVI Dies in Vatican at 95 Pope Benedict XVI Dies in Vatican at 95 WWW.BREITBART.COM Benedict XVI, the 265th pope of the Roman Catholic Church, died peacefully in his bed Saturday morning, the Vatican announced. Now let's hope they elect a more humane Pope to replace him. Michael This is confusing. I thought Benedict was already not Pope and they already have elected another Pope. I've seen commentators talking like there has been some big difference in doctrines between Benedict and the later Pope. So now they are going to have women priests? Not that I've heard, and I've not noticed a whit of difference in substance either. Same hocus pocus, same power. Same pushes to make abortion illegal and assisted suicide illegal. Same besmirching of homosexuality. Same opposition to capitalism. Talk of "the deep state" and religion in such proximity reminds me of an old story about Luther (told by friends of his) that the devil was so vivid to him one day in his study that he threw an inkwell at the critter. As I hope you know, many of us, myself included, have not belief in "the deep state" or "the devil" or "the Jewish bankers' conspiracy", however often those names are invoked, or any other such personifications as plausible best explanations of all the stuff they are invoked for. Explaining a single slightly complex thing such as inflation by greed sells easily to many. It's a lousy explanation all the same. Usually best passed over in embarrassed silence. But hopefully, you do know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Ah, come on, William. You know you don't give a shit about Christianity. I don't know for sure, but I imagine you have not read the Bible cover to cover and would consider the effort stupid. You only liked this Pope because he wasn't very Christian, but instead a leftie. I am not clairvoyant, as I must assume you profess yourself to be. I have paid attention to Christianity and the flux of religion and its varied powers all my rational life. One of my mental tentactles is currently down deep holes in study of the development of the standard works of the Latter-Day Saints traditions. The richest religious corporation in the land ... the most troubled by modernism. My favourite bible translation comparison site is currently ... well, a good mind reader can fill in such blanks. Hint: It's not Bible Hub. "You only liked this Pope because he wasn't very Christian" ... Ah, come on, William. That guy ('this [dead] Pope') was complicit in a cover-up of priestly abuses of children under his benedictship back when he was the ecclesiastical authority in Germany. He was a foul conservative bag of repression and criminal negligence, in my opinion. He was a vain, ugly, stupid pope, to my eyes. I smiled in reaction because it almost appeared you believed that the current Argentine-born pope whatsisname had just died, and not his predecessor, Benedict the rampant Child Sexual Abuse Cover-upper. Going forward, the General Authorities advise less psychic-epistemology and more assumption-checking, Maestro. Folk reasoning can only get us so far ... which reminds me, can you imagine a revamped Screaming Pope** depicted with the current maniacal throne-holder? This is via AI on Discord ... nobody there has heard of Francis Bacon. ** Spoiler Edited January 1, 2023 by william.scherk Added image of Bacon's famous canvas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Guyau said: As I hope you know, many of us, myself included, have not belief in "the deep state" or "the devil" or "the Jewish bankers' conspiracy", however often those names are invoked, or any other such personifications as plausible best explanations of all the stuff they are invoked for. Explaining a single slightly complex thing such as inflation by greed sells easily to many. It's a lousy explanation all the same. Stephen, Are you saying these are my beliefs and I equate them equally in the way you do in your example? If your argument is that is what it appears at times, I can also judge from appearances. For example, judging from the breathtaking juxtaposition of the examples you gave (a weird kind of guilt by association for ideas), I could say it appears like you do not believe in good and evil and intensely dislike any symbols or indications people use that depict them. And when I look for a common theme, I see all expressions of evil as being proof of the bigotry of the expresser. Hopefully you do know what I am talking about. (I'm just being bitchy from your goading. We can do this seriously on an idea level, too, if you like. The only way to understand an idea--and to judge it correctly--is to correctly identify it.) Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Guyau said: This is confusing. I thought Benedict was already not Pope and they already have elected another Pope. Stephen, You're right. I am not familiar with the inner workings of the Catholic church and do know know their Pope election protocols. And I don't care much about it. I screwed up, though. I confused Benedict with Francis. My comments are aimed at Francis, who unfortunately is still the Pope. I know very little about Benedict. Pope Francis is just like those damned lefty Jesuits down in Brazil. (Incidentally, that lefty artist Geraldo Vandré I once produced wrote a mass for Saint Justin for the Jesuits, but I don't think they ever used it. That was before my time with Geraldo anyway. I only know of this from him talking about it to me and playing some of the music, which was hypnotic and quite pretty.) In headline surfing, I saw the picture they used in the headline of Pope Benedict's passing. He looked as much like Uncle Fester as Pope Francis does, so my hope that it was Francis went into overdrive. That's no excuse for sloppiness, but it is what happened. Maybe I should look to the Catholic Church for likenesses of Popes instead of The Addams Family. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Guyau said: ... myself included, have not belief in "the deep state"... Stephen, You are in good company. Ayn Rand did not believe in the military-industrial complex either. In her brilliant depiction of crony corporatism, she left out the military and the intelligence community and war goods in general. I think she did it on purpose, too. But ignoring them did not make them go away. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 6 hours ago, william.scherk said: I am not clairvoyant, as I must assume you profess yourself to be. William, To be what? Clairvoyant? No, I am not clairvoyant. But who knows? I remember a mental connection with my mother I was never able to explain. Especially not in later Randian terms once I got involved with her ideas. But things happened, they existed, and I would be a fool to ignore them since I would be blanking out my own mind and lived experience. But for now, I only look at what people say and do and go from there. In case you need instruction, let me instruct you. An inference from what people do and say is not an act of clairvoyance. If you need further instruction, please let me know. 6 hours ago, william.scherk said: ... it almost appeared you believed that the current Argentine-born pope whatsisname had just died, and not his predecessor, Benedict the rampant Child Sexual Abuse Cover-upper. Let's remove the "almost." That is exactly what happened. But I finally got it right. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 2:22 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: ... I have 32 years of Brazil and I already know that theater is the main activity of Brazilian politicians, the military and the media. So here is my gut feeling. I might be wrong, but I believe this for now. In order to elevate the supremacy of the institutions, the powers that be are going to let Lula take office. Then they are going to remove him in one way or another. And to make sure there will be no problem reinstating or reelecting Bolsonaro, they are getting him out of the line of fire and keeping his reputation pristine. . . . I do know one thing. If Lula takes office and does not act quickly to imprison and/or kill certain people (too many for comfort in my view), what's more, he still has to get away with it, his days of governing will be pure hell on him however long he will be in office. Too many people are livid about the stolen election. Here is a guy, Josh Sigurdson of World Alternative Media, who thinks more or less like I do. He's pure ancap, though, and I am for limited government. Barring that difference, he sees what I see, including the move of getting Bolsonaro out of the line of fire and a big kaboom happening to Lula after he is sworn in and working. He also says the Brazilians seem to have more balls than Americans. In the sense he said, the protesting, I agree with him. BOLSONARO FLEES TO USA! - Brazil's Future In Question! - Lula To SEIZE POWER? WWW.BITCHUTE.COM BUY GOLD & SILVER HERE: https://kirkelliottphd.com/wam/ GET HEIRLOOM SEEDS & NON GMO SURVIVAL FOOD HERE: https://heavensharvest.com/ USE Code WAM to get FREE shipping in... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyau Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Stephen, . . . I could say it appears like you do not believe in good and evil and intensely dislike any symbols or indications people use that depict them. And when I look for a common theme, I see all expressions of evil as being proof of the bigotry of the expresser. You'd be wrong again. I certainly do believe in good and evil. And I certainly don't think bigotry is somehow a necessary source or necessary incident of evil. Good and evil can be thought about and communicated accurately without the personification of every evil and personification of evil in general. The same goes for personifications of the STATE by some libertarians or "the establishment" by some come-the-revolution folk back in the day. Rallying hatred against what one opposes by personifying it does seem an effective way to stir actions in some, evil actions such as the bombing of the Murray Building in Oklahoma City, the murder of actual people (their children included). The phrase "the deep state" can be used in another way than as used in the heading of this thread (sinister cabal among unelected officials), and it is something good: The US constitution, the legal profession of our law and of the deep law (the Constitution), and the overwhelming citizen support for our form of rule by law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Guyau said: Rallying hatred against what one opposes by personifying it does seem an effective way to stir actions in some, evil actions such as the bombing of the Murray Building in Oklahoma City, the murder of actual people (their children included). Stephen, Or promoting an endless war for profit--or making excuses for the structure that promotes endless wars for profit, by slapping XXX as the name of the good guy and YYY as the name of the bad guy on it? (Especially when nobody is the good guy?) I agree. It is effective. You can bilk and launder, say, a hundred billion dollars on up, out of taxpayers that way. And nobody will do anything about the mountain of innocent deaths except gripe once in a while. 1 hour ago, Guyau said: The phrase "the deep state" can be used in another way than as used in the heading of this thread (sinister cabal among unelected officials), and it is something good: The US constitution, the legal profession of our law and of the deep law (the Constitution), and the overwhelming citizen support for our form of rule by law. Well, of course. Open any dictionary and you will get more than one definition for any word--and that does apply to phrases. It's as we all learned in Objectivism, the concept is one thing and the word labeling it is another. Right? ITOE and all? However, I have never seen anyone call the Founding Fathers and the values they fought for and built the Deep State. But I can see it happening someday with the right framing. I remember a song by Michael Jackson called "Bad" and he meant good and cool and powerful at promoting that view. So anything is possible when using words. But I have not see your version of the potential meaning of the phrase, Deep State, take off in the culture. In fact, I have only seen it right here in your post. Nowhere else. Just so we are clear as to the concept when I use it, I use the term Deep State to mean the different people and organizations that are affiliated with the government, but use it covertly to subvert individual rights, and gain unearned money (and property), sex and power by promoting large-scale social efforts like war, surveillance, propaganda, contagious medical experiments, and so on. And, by the way, that can include elected officials. I consider both Bushes just as much a part of the Deep State as I do Obama and Biden. (I want to include Clinton, too, but I think of him as more gangster than Deep State dude.) In words, they always express poetic thoughts and do-gooder language. And it is true that in deeds, they sometimes do good things. But their wide-spread impact on the world stems from treating populations and large groups of unsuspecting innocents like livestock that they can, and do, mistreat. The KKK, for example, used to be a Deep State organization. Now it's just a joke and a propaganda talking point for leftwing and elitist Deep State groups. The Deep State is not a tight-knit organization, but instead a loose group of groups and individuals, all who want the same thing--to use the government for cheating and violence to get the unearned from those who produce. That's what I mean when I say Deep State. That's what most MAGA people mean, too, at least the ones I communicate with and observe. Michael 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/28/2022 at 8:11 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I am pretty sure George Santos is going to serve his two years in Congress... Here is another version of George Santos. AOC and others openly said they were going to run Democrat lefties as Republicans and basically lie to get elected. Salty thinks Santos ran as a fake fake, that is, he pretended to be one of those Trojan Horses, but instead of lying to the Republicans as in the Democrat playbook, he lied to the Democrats about a ton of things, including being gay, to make them believe he was on their side underneath. And he got their support, which neutralized their opposition. That made getting elected easy. Republican Fakes Being Gay To Flip Democrat House Seat! WWW.BITCHUTE.COM article: https://www.thedailybeast.com/openly-gay-rep-elect-george-santos-didnt-disclose-divorce-with-woman Website: https://saltmustflow.com OTHER... It's a theory. If it's true, all I can say during this phase is, "Well played." There is still the little matter of how he will perform in Congress, but if he is a hell-raiser, I'm going to like the show. When people accept dishonesty as their governing standard for winning, they should not be surprised when experts at dishonesty appear that are on the other side... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 How the game is still played by the Deep State. John Solomon on GETTR : Virgin Islands fires Attorney General after JPMorgan, Epstein suit | Just The News https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/virgin-islands-fires-attorney-general-after-jpmorgan-epstein-suit?utm_source=gt utm_medium=social utm_campaign=gtjs GETTR.COM Virgin Islands fires Attorney General after JPMorgan, Epstein suit The underlying message is, "Do not fuck with us. We will fuck you up." They keep proving it, time and time again. That's their version of democracy. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: The underlying message is, "Do not fuck with us. We will fuck you up." They keep proving it, time and time again. That's their version of democracy. And here is a version told in headlines. You can connect the dots. First the backstory. User Clip: Biden Tells Story of Getting the Ukraine Prosecutor Fired User Clip: Biden Tells Story of Getting the Ukraine Prosecutor Fired WWW.C-SPAN.ORG The Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating Biden's son & his company was fired at Biden's request after threatening to withhold $1B in aid. Now the problem. US Virgin Islands suing JPMorgan Chase over Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking US Virgin Islands suing JPMorgan Chase over Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking | US news | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Documents accuse bank of ‘turning a blind eye’ to illegal activities committed by their client Then some happy news. Bidens travel to U.S. Virgin Islands for brief vacation Bidens travel to U.S. Virgin Islands for brief vacation WWW.CBSNEWS.COM St. Croix is a tropical getaway that Biden has been getting away to at least since he was vice president, from 2009 to 2017. Wow. Who saw this coming? Virgin Islands Prosecutor Fired Days After Suing Major Bank Over Jeffrey Epstein Ties Virgin Islands Prosecutor Fired Days After Suing Major Bank Over Jeffrey Epstein Ties | The Daily Wire WWW.DAILYWIRE.COM Well, son of a bitch. I wonder if that's how it's done... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 The Deep State can pretend all it wants, but the sentiment of this lady below is more widespread than they imagine. She said it all in 39 seconds. THEY WOKE UP A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO DESTROY THEM They Woke Up A Group Of People That Are Going To Destroy Them WWW.BITCHUTE.COM 11,380 Posts Were Published In 2022: https://EarthNewspaper.com Featured News 1,000+ Posts Yearly: https://EarthNewspaper.com/News News Archive With 18,000+ Posts:... Hear hear! Michael 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 9:29 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: He also says the Brazilians seem to have more balls than Americans. A nationwide strike is now happening in Brazil. They want a new election with paper ballots. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: A nationwide strike is now happening in Brazil. They want a new election with paper ballots. Michael Brazil first, Arizona second, Canada eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlylogical Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, Marc said: Brazil first, Arizona second, Canada eventually. The Authoritarians in Canada have it figured out. You do not hack electronic tallies, you don’t rig election tabulators counters or machines (I think votes in Canada are paper and counted by hand) you don’t even fake forge or fraud (yep I’m using it as a verb) individual ballots… these all can be inspected and potentially rectified you gotta look at the weakest point in the system… after decades of Socialistization (yep I’m making up a word there) it’s the soft mushy grey stuff that’s the weakest link. Indoctrination through public schools, fear mongering and belittling of individuality and ideas of freedom, pushing the ideas of commune and social medicare etc. …. you see they directly hack the people into sheeple and get votes for more authoritarianism… the motto of Canada is the opposite of the venerable and noble phrase “Live free or die!”, it’s “Govern me harder daddy” 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Strictlylogical said: The Authoritarians in Canada have it figured out. You do not hack electronic tallies, you don’t rig election tabulators counters or machines (I think votes in Canada are paper and counted by hand) you don’t even fake forge or fraud (yep I’m using it as a verb) individual ballots… these all can be inspected and potentially rectified you gotta look at the weakest point in the system… after decades of Socialistization (yep I’m making up a word there) it’s the soft mushy grey stuff that’s the weakest link. Indoctrination through public schools, fear mongering and belittling of individuality and ideas of freedom, pushing the ideas of commune and social medicare etc. …. you see they directly hack the people into sheeple and get votes for more authoritarianism… the motto of Canada is the opposite of the venerable and noble phrase “Live free or die!”, it’s “Govern me harder daddy” Very very well stated!!!!! Also love fraud as a verb and socialization as a word and also ad Canada's mantra. One caveat though is that we as Canadians take and take and take, and then take some more but when we stop taking and dig our boots in, its over and over fast and methinks that that moment is very very close. Merci beaucoup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlylogical Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, Marc said: Very very well stated!!!!! Also love fraud as a verb and socialization as a word and also ad Canada's mantra. One caveat though is that we as Canadians take and take and take, and then take some more but when we stop taking and dig our boots in, its over and over fast and methinks that that moment is very very close. Merci beaucoup You are very welcome! PS The new "termage" I've coined is not Socialization it's Socialist "ization" ... Socialistization! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Strictlylogical said: You are very welcome! PS The new "termage" I've coined is not Socialization it's Socialist "ization" ... Socialistization! Even better!!! I may spread that around up here and since I am a Capitalist, I will give you royalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 8:01 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I am not familiar with the inner workings of the Catholic church and do know know their Pope election protocols. And I don't care much about it. However, I am familiar with public snubs. That was a snub well-snubbed. For as much as the Predator Class wants to coopt the Catholic Church, some things don't move. I'm not big on the Catholic Church, but I like that part about it. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 And here is what the "snarling face of the donor class" (Tucker's words) looks like. People want hardcore MAGA to roll over for that bullshit. Everyone knows the Neocons own McCarthy. He actively hurt MAGA candidates during the Midterms. Reality check. Will hardcore MAGA roll over for McCarthy? Nope. Not going to happen. If he wants in, he has to play by their rules. They will not play by his. Otherwise, he ain't getting in. Leverage supreme. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 5:03 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: A nationwide strike is now happening in Brazil. They want a new election with paper ballots. The Predator Class thinks they got away with stealing a presidential election in Brazil. Not so fast... BREAKING: Massive Crowd of Brazilians Descend on Brasilia, Storm Congress – SHOTS FIRED (VIDEO) BREAKING: Massive Crowd of Brazilians Descend on Brasilia, Storm Congress - SHOTS FIRED (VIDEO) WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM Massive crowd of Brazilians have descended on the capital of Brasilia to protest the stolen elections and are currently storming the National Congress. Police are using tear gas, Gunfire has been reported. Police... I don't know how all this is going to end. I do know it is not going to be easy on either side. I'm rooting for those who want freedom and individual rights, not those who want globalism and Communism and, essentially, the rape of Brazil and the transformation of Brazilian citizens into WEF chattel. Also, I'm rooting for Bolsonaro's rightful election win to be recognized. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Lula fled Brasília and went to São Paulo. This is a big deal. UPDATE BRAZIL 2: Socialist Criminal Lula Flees City and Flies to San Paulo, Massive Crowd Increasing in Size, Conflicts with Police Attacked UPDATE BRAZIL 2: Socialist Criminal Lula Flees City and Flies to San Paulo, Massive Crowd Increasing in Size, Conflicts with Police Attacked WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM The already massive crowd in Brazil is growing. The people are taking back their country. Per reports, socialist criminal Lula has left the complex and city and flewn to San Paulo. The protesters have taken... Go freedom Brazil! Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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