Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 I actually got taken in by this. That's what made the payoff even funnier for me LOL... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) On 9/9/2022 at 11:09 PM, william.scherk said: Putin declared that Russian had lost nothing in Ukraine. There's nothing and then there's nothing, one might say. You will see some likely sobering moments for state TV watchers -- the context being today's reported rapid advances of Ukrainian forces towards a major rail transit/supply hub near Kharkiv. Ignore Julia Davis's editorial bias and self-satisfied tone one more time, and see what you think of the exchanges broadcast on this Russian TV programme. This sort of general bifurcation is what has been coming through from Russian Telegram: mobilize or get out, to reduce it to black and white. Mobilize meaning declare war and go whole hog, get out meaning achieve a ceasefire and the beginning of peace talks. The former comedian and TV tycoon currently atop the [Nazi-marbled] regime in Kyiv uttered some scripted lines to the people during his last nightly address. In context, it seems he was reacting to apparent retaliation bombings of Ukrainian power plants. Stanza two -- "Without light or without you? Without you." Almost seven minutes of "frank exchanges of views" during prime time: ____________________ 1. "Do you still think that we are one nation? Do you still think you can scare us, break us, make concessions? You really haven't understood anything, have you? Don't you understand who we are?" Edited September 11, 2022 by william.scherk Z sez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 The Ukraine's latest breakthrough is all to the good, since now's the opportunity for Zelensky to begin cease-fire and negotiation talks. While Ukraine has gained the (temporary) upper hand and has a stronger bargaining position, BUT we all know he won't, nor will his backers allow it. The true believers hold on to the fantasy that Putin's army will be chased out in disgrace. Never going to happen. But then they also believed Russia was after a total occupation of Ukraine. Russia's "SMO" at 190,000 was undermanned and out numbered for a full war, leave alone, occupation. It is fairly definite that Putin believed he could earlier intimidate Kyiv into giving in to his demands and to a negotiation, Donbass autonomy, neutral Ukraine, etc.., by first camping his troops on the border last year, and then by invading and feinting at Kyiv. Nearly worked, but that didn't bring about the talks, (sabotaged by Johnson) so the troops were deployed for the assault and the occupation of East and South Ukraine, the Plan B. To take this latest counter-offensive to signify a Russian rout, is insane. Front lines move, towns get lost and retaken, while holding the territory won back will be the difficult part for Ukraine. But the Russians won't lose Donbas and Crimea, bet on it. Putin can keep increasing the military strength as the resistance dictates. The Russian army has 1.9 million+ men in reserve, ten times the invading force. Something people find hard to accept, from the day of invasion it was inevitable, Russia can NOT lose this limited war, under any circumstances, which is to "liberate" the Donbas and secure that border and get Putin's conditions met. So somebody had better start thinking of making peace with him. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi7prKshI76AhWzQEEAHYoqDJkQFnoECCEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Fworld%2Feurope%2Fputin-signs-decree-increase-size-russian-armed-forces-2022-08-25%2F&usg=AOvVaw0KcB9uZD8Ug9SODmt7rZiY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 A tale of three tweets. These are fog of war tweets that are more honest than most. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictlylogical Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: A tale of three tweets. These are fog of war tweets that are more honest than most. Michael Michael, surely you need not be so "foggy", what do you suspect is the significance of these tweets? What do they mean to you for you to post them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Strictlylogical said: Michael, surely you need not be so "foggy", what do you suspect is the significance of these tweets? What do they mean to you for you to post them? S, I am a big fan of "it." Anyone who can predict "it" correctly has my vote of confidence. Notice the fake news media always tries, but when things come out in the end, they are never anywhere near "it." Monica may not have been as detailed as we like, but she did not lie about "it." She will not be debunked, ever. Her relationship to "it" is the most credible I have seen so far in the news. Pure integrity... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I just hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, tmj said: I just hate it. T, Well, at least you're honest... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 A fellow I think gets things about right. Sorting Out Ukrainian and Russian Red Herrings - A Son of the New American Revolution SONAR21.COM There are a couple of articles that may have come up on your radar and merit some discussion with regards to the war in Ukraine, the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) [Michael's post contained the blurb from an embedded link] On 8/28/2022 at 12:42 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Hi there, thanks for watching! I’m Benjamin Harnwell, International Editor of “SteveBannon’s WarRoom” — the Number 1 ranked US political podcast. Follow me on the world’s greatest social media app on But wait! Benjamin Harnwell, one of Steve Bannon's go-to wonks on Ukraine/Russia has a new gig. First 30 minute video is up at GETTR (with technical difficulties). “Bannon’s WarRoom: Rome” launches 9:30pm central european time Ben “MAGAlomaniac” Harnwell on GETTR : “Bannon’s WarRoom: Rome” GETTR.COM “Bannon’s WarRoom: Rome” Edited September 13, 2022 by william.scherk Attributed truncated quote; updated time and details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 When reasonable discourse stops working, (profane) satire might get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I'd been somewhat skeptical re: Putin's possible hyperbole of the "neo" Nazi power in Ukrainian politics and military, citing (in self-justification?) the brutal treatment of Donbas separatists by them, an aspect hardly covered or "debunked" by the Ukraine-fawning media. I'm more convinced now, learning that the racist/Nazi/Stepan Bandera legacy is being handed down to next generations. From nurseries to Nazis: Ukraine’s terrorist radicalization of children | MR Online MRONLINE.ORG At the Azovets camp outside Kiev, anywhere from 400 to 500 children are given Nazi paramilitary training during the summer. These camps have been run every summer, and even during the spring, fall and winter, in every year since Maidan. The camps are free to the children and are financed by western grants and state funding from the Ministry of Youth and Sports of Ukraine. The focus of the training is to kill “Moskals” and “Separatists.” Kids are taught to kill with assault rifles, carbines, pistols, knives and fists. Then they learn tactics, hand-to-hand combat, assembly and disassembly of submachine guns. Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it. — Proverbs 22:6, New King James Version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Following what some perhaps-insane Russian folks perceived as a rout (a desperate retreat) in the Kharkiv region, a number of the same folks are further pissed off at their military leadership, strategy and morals. And it gets ugly. This is from WarTranslated, a hive of Ukraine-positive observers and commentators. In this case the 'communication traffic' is mostly via Russian-language Telegram and official media. Russians reacting to the 16 September attacks in Kherson and Luhansk • WarTranslated WARTRANSLATED.COM Several missile attacks shook the temporarily occupied areas of Ukraine, Kherson and Luhansk cities specifically. As a result, several occupational officials were killed, including the Prosecutor General of... Edited September 16, 2022 by william.scherk Added 'and official media' to add to the overall density Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 What would the media reaction be to Russian assassins taking out Ukrainian "civilian officials"? One supposes Yelensky might realize he is also "a civilian official" and an "absolutely legitimate military target". Ukraine admits killing civilians — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union WWW.RT.COM Attacks that Moscow has described as terrorism went after legitimate military targets, President Zelensky’s aide Podoliak insisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share Posted September 17, 2022 Among some of the more conspiracy oriented, there is one guy, Benjamin Fulford, who said something interesting on a recent video I saw (see here). But first a note about Fulford. This guy often talks to people high up in the intelligence communities and is as connected as all hell in top levels of governments throughout the world. But he is outright weird at times. Woo-woo doesn't even begin to nail it. However, many credible people I follow (like Mel K, for just one example) constantly sing his praises. Because of the endorsements from those people, I do not dismiss Fulford as a kook. So take the thought below with the qualification above. It's not coming from just anyone, it's coming from a person who actually talks to high-up people involved. But the guy is batshit crazy. So you decide. He said anything anyone says about Ukraine and Russia right now can't be relied on to give facts. He himself does not know what to say yet. However there is one thing he has heard from several of his contacts. Even though Russia and Ukraine are in hostilities, people high up on both sides are raking in the dough from the gobs of money Biden and some others keep sending over there. So there is a secret understanding between the two sides that, for a small time, they will fake what is going on in order to keep the money flowing. That doesn't mean fake deaths and so on. That means fake who is winning and who is losing and so on. Seesaw. Once the money dries up, they will go back to fighting for real. My own opinion? Well, I don't know what I don't know, but that, to me, sounds 100% in character for both Russians and Ukrainians. And in character for the idiots in the Deep State and predator class, too. As a wise man from World War One (Smedley Butler) once said: War is a racket. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: But first a note about Fulford. This guy often talks to people high up in the intelligence communities and is as connected as all hell in top levels of governments throughout the world. But he is outright weird at times. Woo-woo doesn't even begin to nail it. How do we know he talks to people high up in the intelligence communities? On his say-so? 16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I do not dismiss Fulford as a kook. He is probably more than a kook. 16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: But the guy is batshit crazy. One does not preclude the other? From his quiescent YouTube channel, this excerpt is eye-opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Ritter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share Posted September 17, 2022 4 hours ago, william.scherk said: How do we know he talks to people high up in the intelligence communities? On his say-so? William, I will answer this, but you are intelligent enough to know. The people I find credible say he does. That's a pretty obvious inference from what I wrote. Like 3rd grade level or so. I'm talking about grade school. I presume you did go to grade school... But to point, that may not be good enough for you as a standard, so go back to the mainstream press with their anonymous sources of people who know someone who is familiar with the topic and was at a meeting or overheard a conversation. Those people are good standards for you because I have seen you refer to them often when presenting news and ideas. You see, I mention upfront my misgivings and credibility points. I think you only see the misgivings because the thirst to mock is stronger than the will to use reason. But I'm not in your head. You are. Only the Shadow knows... Michael btw - I notice you did the obvious and typical. You talked about Fulford and did not once mention the idea from him that I--and people who to me are credible--found interesting. That's the way this propaganda technique works. Also, it's pretty damn hard to wave a hand and dismiss billions and billions of dollars, and it looks like billions and billions more on the way, and have people take that seriously. It's far easier to mock anomalies, thus avoid issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just when you think Reuters journalists, Kyiv (et al) couldn't stoop lower, more anti-Russkie 'atrocity porn' to prepare the public for what will, regretfully, need to be done eventually by the West. "Mass grave" - singular, and what that is associated with. Even respectfully burying the dead - of any nationality - will be of indoctrination use. Mass grave of more than 440 bodies found in Izium, Ukraine, police say WWW.REUTERS.COM Ukrainian authorities have found a mass grave of more than 440 bodies in the eastern city of Izium that was recaptured from Russian forces, a... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Responses from Moon of Alabama MoA - Ukraine - Dissecting Some War Propaganda News Items WWW.MOONOFALABAMA.ORG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 The WarTranslated.com dude is apparently Estonian-Russian. He provides some insights and material you might be surprised at. But here he just says "oof." "The truth must be told." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 I would assume that she segues into knowing the truth of the situation should and would result in a renewed and strengthened national response culminating in a recognition that the conflict is fully beyond a ‘special military’ stage and is moving if not has arrived at the level of general warfare/full war. I do not know enough about Russian culture to be certain, but I believe there is mostly like not a national broadcast news agency akin to MSNBC with the freedom to be critical of the regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 8:45 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Even though Russia and Ukraine are in hostilities, people high up on both sides are raking in the dough from the gobs of money Biden and some others keep sending over there. So there is a secret understanding between the two sides that, for a small time, they will fake what is going on in order to keep the money flowing. That doesn't mean fake deaths and so on. That means fake who is winning and who is losing and so on. Seesaw. Once the money dries up, they will go back to fighting for real. That thought comes from Fulford, but it looks like the seesaw is going back the other way for a bit. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (sniffing in the air) What's that smell? Oh... It's money. But it's not money for you and me. It's money taken from you and me to go into the pockets of endless-war-for-profit cronies using this Russia-Ukraine thing as an excuse. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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