BaalChatzaf Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Milo is kicking some serious butt with his video making. Michael That is a Banzai Charge. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, BaalChatzaf said: I am a near genius and I am smarter than 97 percent of the human race. I am near dumb and 97% of the human race is smarter than I am. But by living according to God's moral law, I'm a successful independent self-made American Capitalist who is still active in the business world after most people have retired. While for all of your "near genius", you're just a pensioned government employee. Intellect does NOT make a man, Bob. VALUES do. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: ... 3. After receiving a sentence of sex offender and a slap on the wrist, [Jeffrey] Epstein has been granted immunity to testify against anyone he pleases and cannot be punished for making stuff up. ... Therefore his testimony is worthless. Let’s call it by its proper name, granting immunity in return for testimony is bribery. Prosecutors who grant a light sentence and future immunity to a crook in order to obtain from him the testimony they want ought to be tried for suborning a witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, moralist said: I am near dumb and 97% of the human race is smarter than I am. But by living according to God's moral law, I'm a successful independent self-made American Capitalist who is still active in the business world after most people have retired. While for all of your "near genius", you're just a pensioned government employee. Intellect does NOT make a man, Bob. VALUES do. Greg Living according to God's plan? Which God? The God of Islam? That means decapitations and IEDs. I quit government service 48 years ago and spent the rest of my working life in the Private Sector. On balance religion has been a Bad Deal for the human race. Maybe G-D created the world, but the Devil created sects, cutls, dogmas, and religions. Religions have produced division, hatred, war and bloodshed. By all means keep your Religion, preferably to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Greg wrote: I am near dumb and 97% of the human race is smarter than I am. But by living according to God's moral law, I'm a successful independent self-made American Capitalist who is still active in the business world after most people have retired . . . . Intellect does NOT make a man, Bob. VALUES do. end quote The Objectivist movement is diametrically opposed to socialism and other unprovable propositions like the THOUSANDS of deities irrational people have postulated throughout history. What makes Christ real with no proof when there have been other deities proposed before him and since then? Faith is not proof. It is evidence of *belief* even if the facts of reality contain no deities or contradict their magic. Belief should not be given so cheaply. Socialism is basically, the egalitarian philosophy that believes *equality of outcome* is the moral ideal, NOT merit or justice. The problem with Greg’s formula is that he shows no correlation between his deity’s moral law and rational thought and action. A better way to explain his morality, would be to start with the axioms of the ten commandments and other moral laws and prove that good behavior means a better life, less early death, and prosperity. Show me the numbers. I enjoy Ba’al’s syllogism that begins with the ‘Golden Rule.” That is a start but only a start. The Objectivist movement claims the moral ideal is that each individual rise, or fall, according to how well they develop their talents and how credibly they use those talents. The self-made captains of industry, the Hank Reardon’s, are considered one version of an ideal man. The lazy, and the slothful are considered the opposite. And those who hate the productive virtues of the ideal man are considered evil. Objectivism would, therefore, seem to be the antithesis of egalitarianism. An Objectivist would not necessarily have to believe that people need to be considered equal in any way. But the empirical reality is that Objectivism has as one of its core principles, the egalitarian ~belief~ that talents are distributed equally between all persons at birth, and any differences that exist at adulthood are merely the result of that person refusing to make the volitional choice to develop their talents. Thus, Objectivism’s wrongful belief is that IF the average "epistemological savage" with an IQ of 80, and the much rarer genius with an IQ of 160 had merely swapped their childhood attitudes about the importance of learning, reading, going to school, doing one's homework, intellectual bents, OR curiosity in general, then the person with the IQ of 160 would have, instead, developed an IQ of 80, and the "epistemological savage" would, instead, have grown to be a genius with an IQ of 160. In my opinion, the reason that Objectivism adopted this belief is simple enough: it makes their philosophy seem fairer. It is PC. If talents are unevenly distributed at birth, then Objectivism is simply the philosophy that the genetic cream must be free to rise within . . . and to the top. Objectivism would then merely be a variation on social Darwinism. And we can't have that can we? Thus we see the spectacle of Rand denouncing the concept of IQ, and some "Objectivists" at ARI or on this list down-playing the accuracy of IQ tests. They don't want to accept the notion that IQ is a reasonable measure of intelligence . . . or that IQ correlates significantly to your educational and economic outcome in life. The notion that individuals are born with a basic probability of being well to do, or born with a basic probability of being poor is unacceptable to them. But Objectivism also demands that at all times we remain objective. Objectivity means seeing things as they are, not as we would wish them to be. Despite an unholy alliance between liberal egalitarians and genetic egalitarians that has desperately attempted to suppress all consideration of the topic, the scientific case that they are wrong, and the case continues to build. In fact, not only is intelligence hereditary, but so is basic personality, to a large degree of correlation. Thus if Hank Readon's intelligence, is basically an accident of birth, then his ambition may very well have been an accident of his birth as well. BUT, I do consider volition and heredity as the key to all human success. A successful person must have both attributes. Objectivism is therefore, at an intellectual cross-road. It can stick to an *a priori* counter-factual belief about intelligence and genetics, and become another pseudo-intellectual movement like creation science . . . or it can, through the proper use of reason, reconcile its ideology with reality. IQ scores do successfully predict, as do SAT scores predict academic excellence. But without *volition* a human will never achieve success. And volition without IQ will be a predictor of mediocrity. And that is why I support Donald Trump )joke( Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The Trump site has expanded their list of platform issues to include Cybersecurity, Veterans affairs reform, trade, regulations, tax plan, national defense, immigration, healthcare, energy, foreign policy and defeating ISIS, education, constitution and second amendment, economy, and child care Good job, and I just received the following letter. Peter PETER, Thank you for your generous donation of $100. Your support matters now more than ever because the stakes are so high. We must stop Crooked Hillary from ruining our country. We must thwart the slew of bias and lies the mainstream media is feeding America. We MUST win BIG in November and Make America Great Again! Your donation will help us accomplish this -- and more. Together, our voices are becoming louder and clearer, representing a bright new future for our great nation full of more opportunities for everyone, not just a select few. If you have any questions about your donation, please email contribute@donaldtrump.com. We thank you for your continuous support, Team TRUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I rarely see Rush Limbaugh give out a video-clip of his radio show. I think he considered this analysis of Trump's trash-talk tape and the debate so important that he is giving a freebie. I heard it and I agree. It's one of the most perceptive analyses I have seen so far. So here it is: And for those who simply want the transcript: This Is What It Looks Like When You Take on the Establishment A couple of points, but there are many others: 1. If people think the attack Hillary (the establishment) made against Trump would not have been made against Cruz or any other non-establishment candidate, think again. That is how elections are won and lost these days. 2. Rush thinks (hopes) there is going to be a huge backlash by people against the very attempt this round. He bases this on his own gut feeling. He tried to imagine himself as one of his listeners and this is what was there. People are sick and tired of elections being determined by sleazy demonization from the media that later gets covered up. They are furious that it was attempted again with all the problems they are living right now. I agree with this. I know I feel this way. And I'm seeing a lot of it out in TrumpLand right now. There will be more attempts to discredit Trump with sleaze and this backlash will only grow. Rush ain't always good, but when he's this good, he's stompdown great. Enjoy. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I've done some reading about Jeffrey Epstein and, as I went along, one big fat thought arose out of the depths of my subconscious like the Creature from the Black Lagoon on acid. Jeffrey Epstein is the soul of a certain kind of evil, meaning he entices through temptation, then collects his devil's bargain. This guy was very generous with his underage and adult sex slaves to the rich and powerful all over the world. No wonder he got such a light sentence. He's got files and videos on everyone doing all kinds of kinky stuff. No wonder the establishment Republicans back Clinton over Trump. Epstein doesn't have funky videos of Trump, but he does of them. Epstein helped found The Clinton Foundation... Noooooooooooooooowww it makes sense... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Peter said: Objectivism would, therefore, seem to be the antithesis of egalitarianism. An Objectivist would not necessarily have to believe that people need to be considered equal in any way. But the empirical reality is that Objectivism has as one of its core principles, the egalitarian ~belief~ that talents are distributed equally between all persons at birth, and any differences that exist at adulthood are merely the result of that person refusing to make the volitional choice to develop their talents. Thus, Objectivism’s wrongful belief is that IF the average "epistemological savage" with an IQ of 80, and the much rarer genius with an IQ of 160 had merely swapped their childhood attitudes about the importance of learning, reading, going to school, doing one's homework, intellectual bents, OR curiosity in general, then the person with the IQ of 160 would have, instead, developed an IQ of 80, and the "epistemological savage" would, instead, have grown to be a genius with an IQ of 160. In my opinion, the reason that Objectivism adopted this belief is simple enough: it makes their philosophy seem fairer. It is PC. If talents are unevenly distributed at birth, then Objectivism is simply the philosophy that the genetic cream must be free to rise within . . . and to the top. Objectivism would then merely be a variation on social Darwinism. And we can't have that can we? Peter, if I'm reading you correctly, I didn't think Objectivism holds that talents are distributed equally between all persons at birth, this is from The Age of Envy: [...] “Equality,” in a human context, is a political term: it means equality before the law, the equality of fundamental, inalienable rights which every man possesses by virtue of his birth as a human being, and which may not be infringed or abrogated by man-made institutions, such as titles of nobility or the division of men into castes established by law, with special privileges granted to some and denied to others. The rise of capitalism swept away all castes, including the institutions of aristocracy and of slavery or serfdom. But this is not the meaning that the altruists ascribe to the word “equality.” They turn the word into an anti-concept: they use it to mean, not political, but metaphysical equality—the equality of personal attributes and virtues, regardless of natural endowment or individual choice, performance and character. It is not manmade institutions, but nature, i.e., reality, that they propose to fight—by means of man-made institutions. Since nature does not endow all men with equal beauty or equal intelligence, and the faculty of volition leads men to make different choices, the egalitarians propose to abolish the “unfairness” of nature and of volition, and to establish universal equality in fact—in defiance of facts. Since the Law of Identity is impervious to human manipulation, it is the Law of Causality that they struggle to abrogate. Since personal attributes or virtues cannot be “redistributed,” they seek to deprive men of their consequences—of the rewards, the benefits, the achievements created by personal attributes and virtues. I've heard Peikoff repeat this as well, that equality has to do with rights, not a person's capacities or potentialities he is born with, and certainly people are born with different intellectual capacities. One can overcome a lesser endowed intelligence to an extent with volition, and likewise someone with a higher endowed intelligence could end up with a lesser intelligence without volition. So the IQ tests in this scenario would show the endowment to be reversed, and shows how powerful volition is and that man is efficacious, not determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: There will be more attempts to discredit Trump with sleaze and this backlash will only grow. Rush ain't always good, but when he's this good, he's stompdown great. Enjoy. Michael This declamation is more cogent than I expected to hear from R. L. It was a good say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 And the beat goes on. WikiLeaks just released a second batch. There are 2,086 new emails from Podesta. RELEASE: The #PodestaEmails part two: 2,086 new emails https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm pic.twitter.com/Jlcf4Fde65— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 10, 2016 Get 'em here. That link is not going to be valid for part 2 only after awhile. WiliLeaks is putting all the Podesta emails in the same folder. btw - I just decided to follow WikiLeaks on Twitter. Scrolling down, I saw that they sometimes post some funny shit. Rudy Giuliani today on Clinton: "Her Wikileaks reveal she wants to be president of the world."— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 10, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 For those who like to tickle the paranoia muscle, here is Hillary Clinton today in Detroit. A "Bill Clinton is a rapist" protester is being escorted out of her rally by security. She tells the crowd she hopes someone follows him and "stages an intervention." Is staging a Clintonian intervention like the Godfather's "deal you can't refuse"? I want to put a smiley, but that one is not so funny... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 While I'm on it, we've had great fun with this picture of Bill Clinton during the moment Trump was talking about his impeachment, disbarment, etc., for sexual abuse. After all, Bill is a happy-go-lucky guy, right? You can't help but love him like a mischievous kid. And seeing him embarrassed like this is kinda cute. But then I got to thinking, this man has deployed the US military, the intelligence agencies, secret operations and God knows what else. He has decreed the death and imprisonment of many human beings in the US and the world over. I wonder what was on his mind at that moment--really on his mind. Pause right now and think about it. Look at that face a little closer. If you were Bill Clinton at that moment, knowing the power you have wielded and still wield, what would you be thinking about the humiliation your were being subjected to? And that's not so funny. Looking into the face of sheer evil really isn't funny... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Ann Coulter is right. This is the best video on the 12 year old rape victim Hillary Clinton mocked--at least the best one I have seen so far. It starts with some fun and games, but gets serious soon enough. Then informative. Then enraging... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backlighting Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Came across these quotes from the Witch: How about Hillary's potty mouth? If you think Donald Trump’s comments are vulgar, check out Hillary’s potty mouth. By Mark J. FitzgibbonsNote: If you are offended by vulgar language, do not read this. “Just get that [F-ing dog] out of my way,” said to Secret Service K-9 handler. “Where is the God damn flag? I want the God damn F***ing flag up every morning at F***ing sunrise”. Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day 1991. From the book “Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 “F*** off! It’s enough I have to see you F****-kickers every day! I’m not going to talk to you, too! Just do your Goddamn job and keep your mouth shut.” Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with “Good Morning.” From the book “America Evita” by Christopher Anderson, p.90 “If you want to remain on this detail, get your F***ing ass over here and grab those bags!” Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident. From the book “The First Partner” p. 25 “Stay the F*** back, stay the **** back away from me! Don’t come within ten yards of me, or else! Just F***ing do as I say, Okay!!?” Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail. From the book “Unlimited Access” by Clinton ‘s FBI Agent-in-Charge, Gary Aldridge, p.139 “Where’s the miserable c*** sucker?” (otherwise known as “Bill Clinton”) Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer. From the book “The Truth about Hillary” by Edward Klein, p. 5 “You F***ing idiot” Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event. From the book “Crossfire” ~pg. 84 “Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those F***ing sunglasses! We need to go back!” Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while in route to Air Force One. From the book ” Dereliction of Duty” p. 71-72 “Come on Bill, pull your d**k up! You can’t F*** her here!!” Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female. From the book “Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 See: http://truthfeed.com/8-actual-hillary-quotes/8825/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Lou Dobbs delivers a knockout commentary: Edited October 11, 2016 by KorbenDallas replaced the video, the one from Foxnews didn't include the Patton quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said: Lou Dobbs delivers a knockout commentary: FWIW, Wendell Willkie was never in public service before becoming the Republican presidential nominee in 1940, and was a successful businessman. His military service consisted of going through training to fight in WWI, but it was over before he got there. Here's a good, fair-minded, easy to read article on the big tax loss imbroglio: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/10/trumps-909-million-tax-loss-new-york-times-points-toward-poor-tax-policy.html Though that story is pretty well forgotten already. Someone get me started on the "Carried Interest Loophole" both Trump and Hillary denounced last night. Or actually, no, don't get me started. I don't have the time or the intestinal fortitude, and probably no one would want to read about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Here's a Washington Post article on Trump's 1995 tax return. How Trump got a personal tax break by defaulting on loans. If 9thdoctor was correct that (1)Trump made a personal guarantee on a loan by a bank (or other creditor) to one of his businesses (a separate tax entity), (2) the business defaulted on said loan, and so (3) Trump had to pay the bank (or other creditor) from personal assets, then the title of the WP article is way off-target. 9thdoctor, I'd like to read what you have to say about the carried interest loophole. (I agree with Trump on that, and will explain why if you give your view.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, KorbenDallas said: Lou Dobbs delivers a knockout commentary: Korben, He sure did. But wait, there's more! Jerry Falwell Jr. says Trump was set up by the establishment Republicans with the Billy Bush tape. That they were the ones who leaked the tape. It makes sense seeing how Billy Bush is Jeb Bush's cousin. (There's even a joke going around that Jeb, not Billy, was supposed to be the Bush who took Trump out. ) I know people around here aren't fans of Falwell, but he does control a huge evangelical voting bloc for Trump. And if he is saying Trump was betrayed, a crapload of evangelicals are preaching about it on Sundays. Falwell didn't name names, but he said he had been hearing something big and Republican was coming down the pike to ambush Trump. He had been hearing this for over six weeks and from a source he trusts. The way he said it, Paul Ryan was probably in on it. Think about it. Inexplicably, Paul Ryan warms up to Trump and says he will campaign for him. Out comes the tape. Kablooey! There's an immediate media onslaught that was way over the top, even for the corrupt mainstream media we all know and hate. Paul Ryan cancels. And, almost on cue, there is an instant run of repudiations by a small bunch of establishment Republicans (30 or so if I am not mistaken). Then came a whole lot of demands at the same time from the crapweasels for Trump to step down. It sure looked orchestrated to me. What's more, it looked orchestrated by establishment Republicans in conjunction with the Clinton people. Here's the video. Or read about it here on Real Clear Politics Video: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Establishment Republicans Have Been Conspiring for Weeks to Bring Down Trump I would not want to be one of those crapweasels right now. After Trump's victory in the debate last night, they're probably tired of answering--all day long--nonstop telephone calls from their furious constituents who are calling them sellouts, crybabies, cowards, rats, and so on. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 11 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said: Living according to God's plan? You made that up in your government indoctrinated intellect, Bob. I didn't say that at all. What I actually said is that I live according to God's moral law. Which God. Only a secular liberal would ask that question, because in the religion of secularism all gods are morally equivalent. For you, the god of the Palestinians is no different than the God of the Israelis. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 11 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said: I quit government service 48 years ago and spent the rest of my working life in the Private Sector... What work did you do what wasn't connected to your government? I'll remind you that you've been avoiding this question even though it has been asked repeatedly. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Korben, He sure did. But wait, there's more! Jerry Falwell Jr. says Trump was set up by the establishment Republicans with the Billy Bush tape. That they were the ones who leaked the tape. It makes sense seeing how Billy Bush is Jeb Bush's cousin. (There's even a joke going around that Jeb, not Billy, was supposed to be the Bush who took Trump out. ) I know people around here aren't fans of Falwell, but he does control a huge evangelical voting bloc for Trump. And if he is saying Trump was betrayed, a crapload of evangelicals are preaching about it on Sundays. Falwell didn't name names, but he said he had been hearing something big and Republican was coming down the pike to ambush Trump. He had been hearing this for over six weeks and from a source he trusts. The way he said it, Paul Ryan was probably in on it. Think about it. Inexplicably, Paul Ryan warms up to Trump and says he will campaign for him. Out comes the tape. Kablooey! There's an immediate media onslaught that was way over the top, even for the corrupt mainstream media we all know and hate. Paul Ryan cancels. And, almost on cue, there is an instant run of repudiations by a small bunch of establishment Republicans (30 or so if I am not mistaken). Then came a whole lot of demands at the same time from the crapweasels for Trump to step down. It sure looked orchestrated to me. What's more, it looked orchestrated by establishment Republicans in conjunction with the Clinton people. Here's the video. Or read about it here on Real Clear Politics Video: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Establishment Republicans Have Been Conspiring for Weeks to Bring Down Trump I would not want to be one of those crapweasels right now. After Trump's victory in the debate last night, they're probably tired of answering--all day long--nonstop telephone calls from their furious constituents who are calling them sellouts, crybabies, cowards, rats, and so on. Michael The timing was odd, almost immediately after the tape surfaced, Jeb! and Romney were on Twitter denouncing it. It sounds circumstantial until you add in Billy Bush was involved, who is a Bush. It's almost Occam's Razor. I posted upthread how WaPo said the source of the leak was a producer, which sounded weak. It sounds like they were adding a layer of deception in to throw people off the connection to the Bush family. That's as far as I went with it, but what Jerry Falwell Jr is saying here does seem plausible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 5 hours ago, moralist said: You made that up in your government indoctrinated intellect, Bob. I didn't say that at all. What I actually said is that I live according to God's moral law. Only a secular liberal would ask that question, because in the religion of secularism all gods are morally equivalent. For you, the god of the Palestinians is no different than the God of the Israelis. Greg Not at all. If your are referring to the God of the Muslims, that God is a Demon. Totally evil. The G-D of the Jewish people is confused and sometimes ill tempered. That is why the rabbis had to sit down and invent morality. The God-God-God of the Christians is disjointed and contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Keeping to my theme that the real fight is not between Democrats and Republicans, it's between producers who want freedom and elitists who want serfs, check out the following from the WikiLeaks dump: CLINTON CAMPAIGN EMAIL OUTLINES EFFORT “TO PRODUCE AN UNAWARE AND COMPLIANT CITIZENRY” by Paul Joseph Watson Infowars October 10, 2016 From the article: Quote A Clinton campaign email released as part of the Wikileaks data dump earlier today talks about the need to maintain political power by producing “an unaware and compliant citizenry”. The email was sent to Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta by former Clinton administration official Bill Ivey on March 13, 2016. . . . Ivey wonders how Clinton can combat Trump’s larger than life appeal, worrying that simply ‘defaulting to policy’ won’t work. “And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry,” he writes. . . . ... Ivey admits that the left has ‘conspired’ to “produce an unaware and compliant citizenry” but that they’re not as easy to manipulate anymore and that this is a problem. He characterizes “unawareness” amongst the public as a positive thing for the Clinton campaign. "Unaware and compliant citizenry." I couldn't have said it better myself. In the early days of propaganda in the US, which later was renamed "public relations," this was called "engineering consent." Dontcha luv the cool jargon? Baaaa... baaaaa... Oh, wait. Sheeple is the wrong metaphor for this post. I was talking about us serfs... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 btw - Bill Ivey, the genius who coined the phrase "unaware and compliant citizenry," was once Chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts (for Bill Clinton). This guy sounds like he knows how to use tax money to fund art that will help trick us serfs and keep us in line.. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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