Donald Trump

[BaalChatzaf]

26 minutes ago, Brant Gaede said:

True. Mind is an idea. I think of it as a bridge between the brain and consciousness. It denotes a static state: "I have a mind to punch you in the nose." "My mind tells me . . . ." Etc.

Now, for consciousness itself: to be conscious is to be aware. It comes in straight off axiomatic reasoning. Proofs are impossible. One has consciousness because it is self evident hence consciousness exists.

--Brant

Cogito ergo sum conscius,
Cogito ergo sum nescius

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Erick Erickson, still trying to stay relevant, asked Scott Adams about Trump's naughty talk. Here is what Scott had to say:

Why Does This Happen on My Vacation? (The Trump Tapes)

A few highlights:

Dayaamm!

I left out my favorite quote from the article in my post above.

Here it is:

Quote

Trump wasn’t running for Pope. He never claimed moral authority. His proposition has been that he’s an asshole (essentially), but we need an asshole to fight ISIS, ignore lobbyists, and beat up Congress. Does it change anything to have confirmation that he is exactly what you thought he was?

Ahhhhh...

That's better.

Michael

[turkeyfoot]

https://filthy.media/donald-trump-playboy-interview

Interesting comments. You can discern the genesis of his thinking on trade and military defense. Circa '90.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Heh.

Man, now that it's clear that those three are not supporting Trump, I guess he's cooked.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

By the way, just to cut through the media spin:

Did anyone--other than the Kool Aid drinking NeverTrumpers--seriously think otherwise?

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I had an incidental thought on this I want to share.

I believe this trash talk episode was a good thing for Trump in the long run, not a bad thing. (Well, it's a bad thing in the short run.  But not the long.)

Here's my thinking.

Trump was starting to make peace with establishment Republicans. This means they would have had a seat at the table once he was elected. But they never had any intention of helping him make a success of his presidency. On the contrary, I think they were in it to betray him in the end and make way for their boys.

Now, this close to the election, they are being flushed out. With the grandstanding I've just seen, the chances of them backtracking this late are slim. So there are low odds--low, low, low odds--they will participate in a Trump administration.

Good.

Michael

[turkeyfoot]

2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Dayaamm!

I left out my favorite quote from the article in my post above.

Here it is:

Ahhhhh...

That's better.

Michael

Noticed he changed his vote to GJ after he decided to vote for Trump before he declared for anyone.

Adams: "Does it change anything to have confirmation that he is exactly what you thought he was?"

Yea, apparently your vote. )

It struck me as laughable, what good is a persuader if he doesn't persuade enough of the persuadable? ;)

Would that qualify as a linguistic kill shot? Maybe after the November surprise?

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, turkeyfoot said:

Noticed he changed his vote to GJ after he decided to vote for Trump before he declared for anyone.

Geoff,

You should not make affirmations like that if you don't know the history.

Scott Adams had earlier declared his endorsement of Hillary Clinton because he lives in California. When he first started talking about Trump's persuasion tactics, he said he started getting death threats. He claims the death threats stopped as soon as he endorsed Clinton. More recently, with her health problems, he switched over the Trump like a person coming out of hiding.  Now he is endorsing Gary Johnson to avoid the hassle of dealing with a lot of online crap about Trump's potty mouth.

He's been very clear on who he endorses and why. Even when he finally endorsed Trump, it wasn't due to policy, but instead based on persuasion.

It's pretty clear to those who read him that a lot of this is satire and he will probably vote for Trump. When he was interviewed by Stefan Molyneux, they even joked about this.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Some really, really dirty shit is coming.

According to Alex Jones, there is a strong possibility that--closer to election day--they are going to file a rape charge against Trump (against a 14 year old girl at that) on a made-up case that was already litigated in Texas and found as a hoax.

They will be counting on the media to run with it like it normally does and there not be enough time for the hoax to come out before Nov. 8.

Is this the kind of world the anti-Trump people want?

This is exactly what is being offered.

Here's Hillary Clinton on a real-life rape case of a 14 year old girl where she got a reduced sentence for the pedophile and laughed about it. (It was at the start of her career.) She said this destroyed her faith in lie detectors. Yuk yuk yuk. Listen for yourself.

She's never apologized for this or for getting the pedophile off easy.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

And this is to make Trump supporters feel a little better.

Here's another one from Ben Still and his wife for those who are a bit more religious.

The video below is not very Objectivist, I know, because of its emphasis on The Bible, but this is indicative of how many Christians in Trump's base are seeing him. And how they are seeing the Rinos, for that matter.

I don't agree with all the religion, but I do agree with the sentiment.

Michael

[BaalChatzaf]

26 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Some really, really dirty shit is coming.

According to Alex Jones, there is a strong possibility that--closer to election day--they are going to file a rape charge against Trump (against a 14 year old girl at that) on a made-up case that was already litigated in Texas and found as a hoax.

They will be counting on the media to run with it like it normally does and there not be enough time for the hoax to come out before Nov. 8.

Is this the kind of world the anti-Trump people want?

This is exactly what is being offered.

Here's Hillary Clinton on a real-life rape case of a 14 year old girl where she got a reduced sentence for the pedophile and laughed about it. (It was at the start of her career.) She said this destroyed her faith in lie detectors. Yuk yuk yuk. Listen for yourself.

She's never apologized for this or for getting the pedophile off easy.

Michael

That is what lawyers are supposed to do for their clients....

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

7 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said:

That is what lawyers are supposed to do for their clients....

Bob,

Laugh about pedophile rapists getting off easy?

That's what lawyers are supposed to do?

I know a lot of great lawyers who would have litigated that case better than Hillary Clinton, but would have felt like crap afterward. They certainly would not have found spoofing a lie detector funny, nor other parts of the case (like Clinton did), not with a 14 year old female victim.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Wow!

Drudge is going all out.

 

The link goes to here at Breitbart:

Paul Ryan Shouted Down by Trump Supporters in Wisconsin

Clinton may have the mainstream media and the establishment politicians on her side, but it looks like there is a ton of talent on Trump's side. Lots and lots of people are stepping up to protect him from the elitist assault. The way they say it is they've got his back. From what I see, they are more fired up and mobilized than ever.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Trump was mobbed by supporters at Trump Tower in NY.

Mobbed is not my word, either. It's from The American Mirror.

VIDEO: Supporters mob Trump Tower — Donald wades into crowd on sidewalk

Michael

[Roger Bissell]

6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Trump was starting to make peace with establishment Republicans. This means they would have had a seat at the table once he was elected. But they never had any intention of helping him make a success of his presidency. On the contrary, I think they were in it to betray him in the end and make way for their boys.

Now, this close to the election, they are being flushed out. With the grandstanding I've just seen, the chances of them backtracking this late are slim. So there are low odds--low, low, low odds--they will participate in a Trump administration.

 

I think that's exactly correct.  

REB

[moralist]

7 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I believe this trash talk episode was a good thing for Trump in the long run, not a bad thing. (Well, it's a bad thing in the short run.  But not the long.)

Trump is not going to let this shot go unanswered... so stay tuned.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here's a trip down memory lane:

And just in case anyone forgot:

Hillary Clinton standing by her man:

Although the following is not a great montage, it's full of the right stuff about the "champion of women" and her persecution of Bill Clinton's "bimbos."

It's all good, though. As Colin Powell said in a 2014 email to Jeffrey Leeds, Hillary Clinton has: "a husband still dicking bimbos at home."

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Wanna see one of the top trending hashtags on Twitter right now?

Seriously.

People are tweeting and retweeting this thing so much, it hit the Twitter Trends column.

#You'reARapist

If you go there and start reading the tweets, you get sucked into a time-warp vortex that steals the precious minutes and hours of your life...

Michael

[BaalChatzaf]

10 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Bob,

Laugh about pedophile rapists getting off easy?

That's what lawyers are supposed to do?

I know a lot of great lawyers who would have litigated that case better than Hillary Clinton, but would have felt like crap afterward. They certainly would not have found spoofing a lie detector funny, nor other parts of the case (like Clinton did), not with a 14 year old female victim.

Michael

That is a particular instance of what lawyers are supposed to do.  They are expected to get bloody killers  off,  if they can and protect evil-doers from the punishment that they, the evil doer,  deserves, and if they can't  they are expected to cut the best deal for their client with the prosecution. 

I bet you thought that lawyers are supposed to have something to do with justice.  Am I right? Am I right?  

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

12 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said:

That is a particular instance of what lawyers are supposed to do.  They are expected to get bloody killers  off,  if they can and protect evil-doers from the punishment that they, the evil doer,  deserves, and if they can't  they are expected to cut the best deal for their client with the prosecution. 

I bet you thought that lawyers are supposed to have something to do with justice.  Am I right? Am I right?

Bob,

You're so crazy to have an ideological victim for your logic gotcha, you're not reading correctly.

Did you get the part about me saying I knew lawyers that would have done a better job than Clinton?

You're normally more attentive than that.

Dayaamm!

Michael

[BaalChatzaf]

Just now, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Bob,

You're so crazy to have an ideological victim for your logic gotcha, you're not reading correctly.

Did you get the part about me saying I knew lawyers that would have done a better job than Clinton?

You're normally more attentive than that.

Dayaamm!

Michael

Ouch! Mea culpa, mea  maximal culpa!

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I saw the following video on Breitbart. I thought it would be a typical Bill Clinton victim interview. Some truth and some spin.

I'm not really sympathetic to the tears of gold-diggers since I've known too many. Life is what it is and I take a lot of this stuff with a huge grain of salt. In other words, nobody is a saint in the halls of money, fame and power. I rarely see a perfect morality play with celebrities.

But this interview was hard to listen to.

I know women like Juanita Broaddrick. I grew up around them.

This woman was not faking or spinning anything. 

Bill Clinton is an asshole. And Hillary Clinton is worse for covering it up and further bullying this woman. 

The young women of today should remember, if they are lucky enough to get old without dying first, they will one day look like Juanita Broaddrick.

I hope they will not have their hearts so heavy.

Michael

 

EDIT: This video is going to go wild viral. Trump just posted it on his Facebook feed.

[turkeyfoot]

12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Geoff,

You should not make affirmations like that if you don't know the history.

Scott Adams had earlier declared his endorsement of Hillary Clinton because he lives in California. When he first started talking about Trump's persuasion tactics, he said he started getting death threats. He claims the death threats stopped as soon as he endorsed Clinton. More recently, with her health problems, he switched over the Trump like a person coming out of hiding.  Now he is endorsing Gary Johnson to avoid the hassle of dealing with a lot of online crap about Trump's potty mouth.

He's been very clear on who he endorses and why. Even when he finally endorsed Trump, it wasn't due to policy, but instead based on persuasion.

It's pretty clear to those who read him that a lot of this is satire and he will probably vote for Trump. When he was interviewed by Stefan Molyneux, they even joked about this.

Michael

Youre right, Michael. I wrote tongue in cheek, really I couldnt care less what his politics are. Wasnt he just keeping his word count up to placate the Erickson guy? Leave it to your considerable interpretive skills to find the real meat on them bones. ;) Ive enjoyed Adams' man crush blog. )

 

[turkeyfoot]

1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

 

It's all good, though. As Colin Powell said in a 2014 email to Jeffrey Leeds, Hillary Clinton has: "a husband still dicking bimbos at home."

 

Michael

Wow, really, not transformational? But tawdry?

A life long republican talking to a demo mega donor. Sounds like hes being pushed into the corner having to vote for someone prior to the (#nevertrump) one nominee out of 16 candidates to rise to the top of the ticket in the year ahead. Damn, Benedict Arnold, #BETRAYAL!

Michael, help me make sense out of all of this. ;)

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, turkeyfoot said:

Michael, help me make sense out of all of this. ;)

Geoff,

It's pretty easy once you see the pattern.

To run a great scam, you need camouflage and you need a way to fleece the mark. 

Let me do this from the perspective of the scammers, the crony corporatists, the globalists, the elites, the ones at the top, the ruling class. They are all part of the same group behind closed doors. Not a formal organization. More like members of the same philosophy (scamming  ).

The Camouflage: Out in public, they are rivals and enemies. And what is the rivalry and fighting about? Abortion, churches, gay marriage, social justice, capitalism, freedom, socialism, you name it.

And this trickles down to the public. The trick is to get both Democrats and Republicans hollering their heads off about these things. Get them attacking each other.

The Scam: One side always wins a bit on these issues, then the other side, and back and forth, but they never get fully resolved. Also, the scammers notice when someone starts becoming famous and influential in politics, whether groomed by them or not. And it doesn't matter whether the person is a Democrat or Republican. They get in touch with the person and explain the facts of life. If the person goes along with them, that person has a brilliant political career. If not, that person's career goes in the toilet. When done right, the scammers get their puppet to tell the public one thing in idealistic terms and do the scam behind closed doors. When the public gets pissed, they let a puppet from the other party get in power.

The Payoff: I wish it were something more grandiose than this, but it's only bigger government and massive dipping into government debt through a series of maneuvers, the most obvious being endless war for profit. Sleaze. (After all, it's a scam.  ) That's how the scammers (the ruling class elites) fleece the mark (the producers). Notice that it doesn't matter if the politician is a Democrat or Republican. The payoff is the same. The government grows bigger and bigger, with greater and greater debt, with one more war that never ends. And this remains the same under each plan, policy, issue, law, regulation, whatever. Do you want to fight about abortion? Fine. Slug it out. Come to any conclusion or result you want so long as the government gets bigger and nobody notices. Ditto for all the other issues I listed above. The scammers are only interested in the payoff behind closed doors, not the issues.

Reagan was not part of this game heart and soul, although he did play footsie with it. But every president after him was in with both feet: the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama. 

This scheme works well for the scammers until normal productive people, the marks, the ones who support government through taxes and being fleeced by all the rigged crony market shenanigans, get squeezed so hard they can't even get a job. But nowadays, the scammers have become so arrogant, they are baldfaced lying to the public and not even making up good lies. It's just too much effort. Tell them anything and tell them to shut up. Let the press spin shit for them.

But the squeeze doesn't go away when it gets worse. The press can't spin it anymore. Now it's so bad, the public has gotten fed up and started looking for real for someone outside the scam.

Trump is the systemic break they were looking for, a way to fight back in an effective manner. He is a traitor to the scammer elitist ruling class. He knows them, he knows where the bodies are buried and he's beaten them at their own game. And he likes the public--the average folks, not the elites--enough to want to entertain everybody. He wants to make them feel good and dream big. He did that for years on TV. Now he wants normal folks to be well off. This comes from the heart and they believe him.

Will he live up to expectations once in office? I think so. He has enough leadership experience and productive achievements for me to believe that, but it's still an unknown. He's generally been surrounding himself with the right people. A few exceptions, but generally the right people.

With Hillary Clinton, we would get breaking the glass ceiling, social justice, being better together, blah blah blah. We would be getting bigger government, more debt, and more endless war irrespective of what she does. That's the sacred part for her kind (including Colin Powell).

That's the essential choice.

This has very little to do with Democrat and Republican at root and everything to do with a clash between a capitalistic producer class and a ruling class trying to become royalty with serfs.

Michael