turkeyfoot Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Drip, drip. Assange cancelled speaking from the balcony of the embassy. "WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange cancelled a planned appearance to mark the 10th anniversary of his organization from the balcony of the Ecuadorian embassy in London over security fears on Monday." If this was news Im sure the assassin appreciated it. Theres really nothing that can significantly damage Clinton. Other than a November surprise. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Drudge's reaction: The link goes to here (CNET): Assange vows Google, US election leaks as WikiLeaks turns 10 From the article: Quote In coming weeks, the site is set to publish documents related to Google, the US presidential election and more, according to controversial founder Julian Assange. A video showing the top 10 leaks on the site today opened a press conference marking the 10th anniversary of the whistleblower site, in which time it has published 10 million documents. Assange promised new information every week for the next 10 weeks, related to Google, military operations, arms trading and mass surveillance. He also promised that all documents related to the US presidential election would be published before the vote on November 8. Here is the video the article refers to. I posted it from Facebook and some people can't see it, so this copy is from YouTube. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 On a happier note from Rasmussen Reports: White House Watch: Clinton, Trump Tied Again Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 On 10/2/2016 at 7:33 AM, BaalChatzaf said: No. I am a moral secularist. I buy Jewish Ethics in the entirety. To buy Jewish ethics is to buy God for one cannot be separated from the other. It's stupidity to affirm the fruit while denying the tree which produces it. In my opinion that stupidity the result of your government education which preaches the religion of secular statism in order to produce obedient public union government employees who will do what they're told to do. Judeo/Christian ethics are the functional foundation of Western civilization. They work solely because they represent objective moral reality which is greater than anyone's subjective opinion.. Your multicultural morally equivalent contention makes Judeo/Christian ethics of no greater moral validity than Muslim Sharia law or Nazi national socialism... and that reveals the irrational flaw in your view as a secular statist. If there is no objective moral law, everything is only subjective opinions none which have any greater weight than any other. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 On 10/1/2016 at 0:56 PM, Peter said: It [evil] can be defined, and codified in a rational society. It can be known to a rational person. It has been defined thousands of years ago by God on Mount Sinai, and is the foundation of Western civilization. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, moralist said: To buy Jewish ethics is to buy God for one cannot be separated from the other. It's stupidity to affirm the fruit while denying the tree which produces it. In my opinion that stupidity the result of your government education which preaches the religion of secular statism in order to produce obedient public union government employees who will do what they're told to do. Judeo/Christian ethics are the functional foundation of Western civilization. They work solely because they represent objective moral reality which is greater than anyone's subjective opinion.. Your multicultural morally equivalent contention makes Judeo/Christian ethics of no greater moral validity than Muslim Sharia law or Nazi national socialism... and that reveals the irrational flaw in your view as a secular statist. If there is no objective moral law, everything is only subjective opinions none which have any greater weight than any other. Greg Not really. Using the scriptures as a jumping off point the Rabbis and the Sages invented Jewish Morality and it developed mostly in Persia during the Babylonian Dispersion. If you read the Talmud carefully you see relatively little invocation of G-D. It is possible to accept the basic ethical principles of Judaism without buy the theology. The basic principle of Jewish ethics is -- you shall love (i.e. respect) your neighbor as you love (i.e. respect) yourself. That makes the principle self standing and universal. Once that principle is accepted, that there is one ethical rule for ALL, the details follow without too much difficulty. The Jewish slant on this version of the Golden Rules is very non-altruistic -- Do not do to others what you do not want others to do to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, moralist said: To buy Jewish ethics is to buy God for one cannot be separated from the other. It's stupidity to affirm the fruit while denying the tree which produces it. In my opinion that stupidity the result of your government education which preaches the religion of secular statism in order to produce obedient public union government employees who will do what they're told to do. Judeo/Christian ethics are the functional foundation of Western civilization. They work solely because they represent objective moral reality which is greater than anyone's subjective opinion.. Your multicultural morally equivalent contention makes Judeo/Christian ethics of no greater moral validity than Muslim Sharia law or Nazi national socialism... and that reveals the irrational flaw in your view as a secular statist. If there is no objective moral law, everything is only subjective opinions none which have any greater weight than any other. Greg No such thing as Judeo- Christian. The Christian notion of God (Trinity) is wholly rejected in Jewish thought and the Pauline Doctrine that faith trumps deeds is likewise rejected in Judaism. Judaism is a very worldly religion compared to Pauline Christianity. The sinister Saul of Tarsus set out to destroy Jesus' message and he did in the persona of Paul the Apostle. He turned the message of Jesus (who was a Jew) into altruistic pablum that he could sell to the goyim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said: No such thing as Judeo- Christian. That's odd... the prohibitions against murdering lying stealing coveting and screwing your neighbor's wife are all exactly the same. I understand that Judeo/Christian values do not exist for secular statists. For you there is only your god of government from whom all benefits checks flow. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Drudge's reaction: Let the speculation begin Assange was forced into silence due to 'security concerns'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 37 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said: Let the speculation begin Assange was forced into silence due to 'security concerns'... My concern is that he will be silenced permanently. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 45 minutes ago, moralist said: My concern is that he will be silenced permanently. Greg Promise 100% deliver 50%--- common tactic among thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Dallas wrote: Let the speculation begin {that} Assange was forced into silence due to 'security concerns'... end quote I think it is probable that Hillary will order a drone strike as one of the links suggested. Or Assange will be induced to have a heart attack, and die of natural, unnatural causes, or thieves will break into his home and he will be shot during a robbery. Hillary’s “doctor evil mind” is almost like the path of Hurricane Matthew. Will it strike Florida, then South and North Carolina, and then crash into Assange’s hideaway? Is it time to start worrying about President Clinton's retribution against all who trashed her? I can't make up my mind. Does he have the goods or not? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Ba’al wrote: The sinister Saul of Tarsus set out to destroy Jesus' message and he did in the persona of Paul the Apostle. He turned the message of Jesus (who was a Jew) into altruistic pablum that he could sell to the goyim. end quote And Moralist responded: That's odd... the prohibitions against murdering lying stealing coveting and screwing your neighbor's wife are all exactly the same. end quote Ah Ba’al, don’t be mean to the simple minded you Kinkachoo (Hebrew for mean man with brains.) Spit that bacon out, you hypocrite! I agree the morality minus the made up supernatural is a good start. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 How bad is Future President Trump and a nation of haters? (white guys. Not the Nation of Islam or George Soros.) Remember the good ole days of 2008? President Obama has had NO attempts on his life and Joe Biden never got to be President, but that was the party line from a lot of SJW’s. Now the line is too many haters in America, equals Hillary Clinton’s deplorable’s, and Trump is not fit for office. Why vote for a less than perfect candidate? Remember John McCain? And Mitt Romney? "The Naughty Librarian, VP?" Well, Pilgrim, it was a hoax when they said she banned Harry Potter. Those books did not exist when she was Mayor of Wasilia but she may have been asking that the local library’s books be age appropriate. (I am thinking that maybe my young niece not go see that "Home for Peculiar Children" because it is considered best for young adults.) Remember the deliberate nature of the media’s coverage of Sarah Palin’s jokes? They are trying to do the same to D.J. Trump, but it doesn’t work as well. He’s too smart if not always judicious. I wonder what McCain's and Palin's combined IQ was? Sarah still seems hip and with it. She is a great orator . . . and a “hottie.” I can’t find that great shot of her at her desk with her wonderful breasts pouring out of her blouse. John McCain’s IQ is in the top two percent. He graduated from the Naval Academy. Demerits, not stupidity, caused his low class standing. And Hillary’s corruption? Egad! I also remember that after Senator Dodd, Obama took the most money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. John McCain pushed legislation to fix those monstrosities and it failed due to a corrupt Democrat majority. Obama was given a house as a bribe, all cleverly packaged as a legitimate sale, by Tony Rezco who was under indictment. Obama was and is corrupt, so Hillary is just the right sort to him and his crony’s, and those morons who will vote for her. The "Home for Peculiar Children" will be the White House. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 hours ago, moralist said: That's odd... the prohibitions against murdering lying stealing coveting and screwing your neighbor's wife are all exactly the same. I understand that Judeo/Christian values do not exist for secular statists. For you there is only your god of government from whom all benefits checks flow. Greg I explained why the notion of Judeo-Christian is incoherent. Christians worship 3 gods (Trinity), the reject the Torah, and with them faith trumps deeds. Christianity is altruistic to the core and Judaism is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I don't know how credible the following story about Guccifer 2.0 hacking the Clinton Foundation is, but the story is appearing all over the place on the interwebs all of a sudden, and at reasonably credible places. The link is from The Gateway Pundit. The focus is on TARP money kickbacks to top Democrat politicians. I suspect other people will dig through the documents, if legitimate, and highlight other stuff. BREAKING: Guccifer 2.0 Clinton Docs Show TOP DEMS including NANCY PELOSI Funneled TARP Funds to their PACs After the Assange shenanigans of last night, at least somebody hacked something. I feel an odd sense of a nagging open loop in my mind (kinda like an earworm) finally completing... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 As follow-up, the Guccifer 2.0 tweet: #Guccifer2 hacked #ClintonFoundationhttps://t.co/EDDoAj6FW8 pic.twitter.com/kmSWJ9IKCA— GUCCIFER 2.0 (@GUCCIFER_2) October 4, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Peter said: She is a great orator . . . and a “hottie.” I can’t find that great shot of her at her desk with her wonderful breasts pouring out of her blouse. John McCain’s IQ is in the top two percent. He graduated from the Naval Academy. Demerits, not stupidity, caused his low class standing. Interesting that you mention Palin's superstructure. I too have had lust-filled thoughts about Palin. A lot of old Republic white-guys probably have achieved wood fantasizing about Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Looks like one Clinton scapegoat didn't roll over so easy (from Politico). Obama DOJ drops charges against alleged provider of Libyan weaponsArms dealer had threatened to expose Hillary Clinton’s talks about arming anti-Qadhafi rebels. The problem is those weapons went straight to ISIS and other Islamist extremists. Oh, yeah... and then there is that dead Ambassador and the other three guys... I wonder if there is a way for the pro-Trump people to make this a thing. I doubt it because it is so localized, but I'm sure they will try. I'm sure Turi (the arms dealer) is no saint, but at least Clinton isn't bullying and destroying a scapegoat for her crap this time. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I watched about an hour of the Pence - Kaine debate and had to stop. I got to the point where everytime Kaine spoke, I imagined him eating oatmeal and dribbling it down his chin. How in hell can I even listen to what he is saying when he's like that? (Seriously, Pence kicked his butt. But I still stopped. Kaine was playing too much gotcha with exaggerations and spin while Pence's constant subtext was how much he and Trump cared about Americans. No contest.) Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Kaine just got clobbered. And Hillary picked a weasel for a VP, didn't she? Mike Pence won big. We should all be proud of Mike!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Korben, LOL... Or, as in a Trump retweet: "@Jnelson52722: @realDonaldTrump @Susiesentinel Kaine looks like an evil crook out of the Batman movies"— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 About Tim Kaine looking like an evil Batman crook, I found the picture: Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Hillary pinned this tweet on her Twitter page: Mike Pence: a divisive, anti-woman, anti-LGBT, anti-worker extremist. No wonder Trump picked him. #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/icAN1P5DN2 — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 4, 2016 Cognitively, I can't connect what happened in the debate to what she's saying here. Pence said nothing related to this, there are no connections, they don't exist-- Meaning they are outright lies by the Hillary campaign. Can't the American public see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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