Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 And here's another genius email from the WikiLeaks dump. This time the email is from Hillary Clinton to Podesta (see here for the direct link to the email dated Aug 17, 2014): Quote ... we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region. In other words, as Clinton takes money from these countries with one hand (with her pocket as final destination ), she wants to fight them with another because she knows they fund ISIS. This sounds like a bad spy movie... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, BaalChatzaf said: Not at all. If your are referring to the God of the Muslims, that God is a Demon. Totally evil. The G-D of the Jewish people is confused and sometimes ill tempered. That is why the rabbis had to sit down and invent morality. The God-God-God of the Christians is disjointed and contradictory. With Jesus as a broker? --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 It's the economy, stupid! --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: This time the email is from Hillary Clinton to Podesta (see here for the direct link to the email dated Aug 17, 2014): What direct link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, merjet said: What direct link? Merlin, Oops. Sorry. I fixed it in my post. Also, I fixed it in the quote you provided for reader convenience. The link wasn't there when you originally quoted me. I'm saying this because when anyone reads your post, they will know you are not crazy. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 59 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Merlin, Oops. Sorry. I fixed it in my post. Also, I fixed it in the quote you provided for reader convenience. The link wasn't there when you originally quoted me. I'm saying this because when anyone reads your post, they will know you are not crazy. Michael Thank you for that assurance and fixing the link, although it seems to me that somebody would be more likely to think I'm crazy now than if you had not fixed it in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 This is one of Cenk Uygur's best videos, at least among those I have seen. If you want to know a little about why the press is screwed up, he offers a look behind the scenes based on the Podesta email dump by WikiLeaks. As people know, Cenk a progressive. But on the left, I like him more than most others because he likes facts and likes to think. There is an exception. When he is combatting a political person or promoting a pet theory, he turns his mind off and goes into a zombie-like trance where he regurgitates talking points and will use any dishonest argument he can find that will advance his point. What's worse, many times--I believe--he does this on purpose. But when his mind is turned on and he is fully rational, I generally learn something I didn't know or see something from a legitimate angle I had not yet thought about. The video below is instructive. Just for the record, there is a lot more going on press-wise than what Cenk covered, but what he did talk about (re the press) is spot on. With all the respect I have for Cenk, though, I can't help but laugh at something where he himself screws up. His periodic snipes against Trump are always against Trump's intelligence. He claims Trump is too stupid to use the media the way Clinton does. The way Cenk ignores how Trump constantly punks the media, had a top show for a decades and so on is when he goes into zombie mode just to call Trump dumb. It's a total brain freeze and I get a hoot out of it everytime I see it. For serious stuff, those moments are easy to ignore, at least for me. But here's what's happening in the culture. People are furious with the media and furious with those who use the media for covert manipulation. Not the elites. Everyone else. So, as Rush Limbaugh hopes and predicts, a mighty righteous backlash is coming. As proof, Cenk's video is not the only video I've seen from the Bernie people. Many of them are pissed to the gills with Clinton and with the media. They believe their guy was taken out with dirty tricks by a person with no morals. (Not to mention how pissed people are on the Trump side.) Cenk keeps telling his folks that Trumps doesn't do the dirty tricks Hillary Clinton does. Why? Because according to him, Trump is too stupid to do them. How does he expect this to land on those among his persuasion who think there is a binary choice only in this election? It's obvious to me. Vote for pure evil, the wicked witch who slayed our shining knight, or vote for the dumbass. They will vote for the dumbass. I have no doubt many of them will think like this. And others will simply stay home. Only a few will go third party or vote for Clinton. I'm not sure Cenk sees it. I don't mind, though. More votes for Trump are more votes for Trump. Fewer votes for Clinton are fewer votes for Clinton. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Jerry Falwell Jr. says Trump was set up by the establishment Republicans with the Billy Bush tape. This is totally plausible. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Michael wrote: btw - Bill Ivey, the genius who coined the phrase "unaware and compliant citizenry," was once Chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts (for Bill Clinton). This guy sounds like he knows how to use tax money to fund art that will help trick us serfs and keep us in line . . . . In other words, as Clinton takes money from these countries with one hand (with her pocket as final destination ), she wants to fight them with another because she knows they fund ISIS. This sounds like a bad spy movie... end quote Serfs? Like the elves in the Harry Potter universe? Ah, I love the arts, including books and movies. If President Malfoy Obama PRE-pardons Ms. Voldemort Clinton before he leaves office it would confirm the widely held suspicion that she committed crimes . . . and that he, President Malfoy also committed crimes. So, if Sir Dumbledorf Trump is elected he could still reveal her dirty deeds and also go after Malfoy Obama and the entire IRS staff that weaponized their department to kill the People or organizations with Tea Party in their names. Under Malfoy, it’s like we are the Old Soviet Union or something. If Voldemort Clinton is pardoned, good Wizard DJ Trump could still go after Hillary’s Dobby, her house elf also known as Huma Mahmood Abedin, which is a name meant to inspire fear in all innocent muggles. Run! Huma is coming for you! Now the biggest indicator of guilt would be if Malfoy Obama pardons himself, his entire staff, Voldemort Clinton’s entire staff, including Huma’s wienie wagging husband, his own kids and Mrs. Malfoy Obama. So maybe the great spell caster and ‘sports talking’ Dumbleforf Trump should keep it under his wizard’s hat until after his inauguration as Head of Hogwart’s. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Remember all the merriment from the Obama/Clinton side about voter fraud? That Trump was off his rocker? That's nuts, they said. That's racism, they said. That's conspiracy theory, they said. James O'Keefe struck again They bus people all over the place to perpetrate voter fraud among other things. And this Democratic Commissioner of Board of Elections owns up to knowing about it. Seriously, this guy looks disillusioned and stuck. He doesn't look like a bad person, he doesn't look like he wants to do bad, and he looks like he feels awful because bad is essentially his job, but he doesn't know what to do. The poor guy said he wouldn't even vote for Hillary Clinton except he has no choice. How much sleaze pressure do you think it would take this guy, and gobs of others like him, to realize nobody is looking when he walks into the voting booth? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Trump is not letting up on any front. In the ad video below, he weds Clinton's foreign policy results and her health to the theme of failure and danger. Yup. It ends with her collapsing into the limo shot. He went there, too. This guy wants to win. One of Rand's favorite adjectives for her heroes comes to mind: ruthless. Michael EDIT: This is how Trump himself expressed it earlier: It is so nice that the shackles have been taken off me and I can now fight for America the way I want to.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 This is an excellent video by Alex Jones. He opens his heart to liberals. He almost made it to the end, too. What I mean is the first rule of persuasion is to never condemn your target. (Teaching is different, but I'm talking about persuasion.) You only condemn your target if you show intent to improve the person. And even then "it's not your fault" is a much stronger frame. Condemnation is for getting rid of someone or something, not persuading. You scapegoat with condemnation, not persuade. Jones made it all the way up to the very last sentence with some of the best soul-to-soul talk I have ever seen out of him. Seriously. He got quite emotional and coherent about it. Caring. Humble. Rational. But on goodbye, he just couldn't help himself... I think I'm starting to love this man like a quirky-ass brother. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Oh. My. God. This is on the front page of Drudge... again... Link goes to here at Infowars: BANISHED: THE UNTOLD STORY OF DANNEY WILLIAMS’ SEARCH FOR HIS FATHER Guess who is going to be Trump's guest at the next debate? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Here's a thought for everyone who likes Trump, is following this stuff, and is nervous. Because, believe me, if you follow the news just a little, you get depressed real fast. Barring pro-Trump media places, go to any site right now, any TV channel, any newspaper, etc., and you will find the equivalent of the following message: It's over. It's in the bag. Hillary has won. Trump can recover a few points but he's done. Look at the polls. He's 14 points behind. Did you hear me? He's 14 big ones behind. Or eleven. Or something. He said pussy. He kissed his daughter kinda funny. He even tried to run that old Bill Clinton stuff that's failed every time it was tried. Trump's an ignoramus. He's stupid. De Niro wants to punch him in the face. Do you know what that means? Trump is done. Hillary has won. Do you hear me? Hillary has won... Hillary has won... goddamit... Hillary has won... The headlines all use different words, but that is the essence. Now think... When someone is winning big, like say in a football game where one team is about 30 points ahead, are the winning fans hysterical? Do they constantly try to prove how they are winning and why? Do they trash talk the other team nonstop? Or are they having a laid-back good time? Try this... 1. Exhale all the air you can from your lungs. 2. Close your mouth and keep it shut. 3. Inhale slowly through your nose. Smell the sweet smell of raw panic from the elitist Clinton supporters and elitist establishment Republicans. Ahhhh... that smells good... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'll let Rush speak for himself: Why indeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Man, what a day. It just doesn't stop... In the latest WikiLeaks dump, in a transcript of a 2013 paid speech Hillary Clinton gave to a group of bankers in Canada, she entertained them with a story about how she and the Obama folks got Bin Laden. And she laced the story with classified information. Dayaamm! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfoot Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Wow, the hits keep rollin! ;) Theyre both damaged goods by self inflicted sabotage. Drum roll. Sexy and it sells. Will a M. Cuban $5M donation towards an utterance of the n word serve to doom Trump? Unsexy and buried under a tsunami of media hype. Wikileaks reveals that Chelsea isnt Hillaries child. Will the sheer burden of data on this thread shake O foundations pitting gloom against doom or bring forth a new era steeped in joy and fellowship? Its sheeeew time. Lets do a crosspoint. Pros and Cons. Ok dispense with the con. The pro. Truly a prolific idgot of immense wealth who appears battle ready, swings for the fences from the dugouts and connects only with those who cant stand the thought of millenial children waking up to the haughty voice of Mydamn president. But wait there are issues, real and undug with much at stake, no detail too grand in its analysis nor debaucheries too fallow in their acquisition. Im diggin this election wind down like thoughts of my own demise. Death and taxes. Bill and Hillary. Trump and pussy. Make it pussy galore. A pussy in every pot. 28 days and a lifetime to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Glenn Beck keeps dying by a thousand cuts. But at least he has been shooed out from underneath the Bushes Clintons. From Breitbart: Glenn Beck: Electing Hillary Clinton ‘Is a Moral, Ethical Choice’ I thought that was just hype due to the feud between Beck and Breitbart. Check this out from TheBlaze: Glenn Beck: I’ve considered voting for Hillary Clinton Beck ends up saying he will not vote for her, but he also knows the power of a headline. The covert part of this message is: I’ve considered voting for Hillary Clinton and so should you. Will you? Then he gets to feign innocence by saying he never said for anyone to vote for her. This thing blew back so hard on Beck, though, he had to do a separate segment on his show and a separate article: Glenn Beck: No, I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton in November That's what you get when you build a house on honor, but turn it into a dwelling for hatred to inhabit. The good part is I can start putting smileys up again when I talk about Glenn Beck. The love I felt for him is dying so I no longer feel so bummed out. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I want this on record. There's a thing going around about the email dump, for example on Reddit: WikiLeaks - Hillary calls muslim a "sand nigger". Snopes explains it: Claim: Hillary Clinton called Muslims "sand n*ggers" in an email leaked by Wikileaks. This term was in an email Hillary Clinton sent around, but it was in an op-ed written by someone else that she had included. The reason I want this here for reference is if the Evil Ones have a tape of Trump using the "N" word and do a media blast, this will help neutralize the damage on an emotional level. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 10:47 AM, Peter said: The Objectivist movement is diametrically opposed to socialism and other unprovable propositions like the THOUSANDS of deities irrational people have postulated throughout history. What makes Christ real with no proof when there have been other deities proposed before him and since then? Faith is not proof. It is evidence of *belief* even if the facts of reality contain no deities or contradict their magic. Belief should not be given so cheaply. I totally agree. I don't believe in God. I know He exists. The only proof is individual personal experience. That proof is non-transferrable to others and is only of value to the one who experiences it directly for themselves. I know by my own personal experience that whoever puts first doing what's right by God's moral law will be happy and prosperous. "I have been young and now I am old, yet I have not seen those in right standing with God abandoned or his descendants pleading for bread." "But first and most importantly seek His way of doing and being right, and all these things will be given to you also." You can literally take that promise to the bank... whether or not you believe God exists. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 You can simplify the above to "doing and being right." Most people know to do that and generally do so. That's why humanity has progressed and should continue to. Focusing on "God's moral law" clarifies the matter and gins it up. What's really going on is reality congruence apropos the nature of a man as he ought to be and respecting everything else he deals with. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 This is cute. Look at the bumper stickers. In Charleston, SC, Oct. 10. Spotted in Charleston, SC 10/10/2016 #BernieSanders #Trump #CHS #CHSNews pic.twitter.com/2nQQHi2Z68— Ian (@i88schwartz) October 11, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 This just in from Fox: WikiLeaks, Clinton campaign in Twitter war over latest leaks Brian Fallon started tweeting a lot that WikiLeaks and the Russian government were in collusion, including Trump, that they were out to get Hillary Clinton, yada yada yada. WikiLeaks responded that they are not, instead they are an award winning organization and do not disclose their sources. It's very interesting reading. At the end, Fallon pushed them too hard and they came out with my favorite tweet. @brianefallon Yes.The Clinton campaign is leaking like the Titanic.— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 11, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 10 hours ago, moralist said: 23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Jerry Falwell Jr. says Trump was set up by the establishment Republicans with the Billy Bush tape. This is totally plausible. Greg, There's a little more from The Gateway Pundit. RUMBLINGS: Top Paul Ryan Advisor Leaked Trump Sex Talk Tape to WaPo (Updated) Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Dayaamm! Alex Jones's movement ("Bill Clinton is a rapist!") just triggered Obama (from Breitbart). ‘Get Your Own Rally!’ Obama Frustrated by ’Bill Clinton Is a Rapist’ Protesters From the article: Quote “Is somebody hollering again? You know what, here’s the deal, try to get your own rally,” he said. “You gotta get your own rally. If you can’t get your own rally, don’t come mess up somebody else rally. We’ve got work to do here.” Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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