ThatGuy Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Speaking of Rand and the 'rona, I just came across this article, critical of the ARI's support of the government mandates and such, as being contrary to Ayn Rand's own views: September 18, 2021 Ayn Rand vs. the Mandate By Susan Hanson The Ayn Rand Institute (ARI) has turned against Ayn Rand. Our medical system is now completely under the thumbs of the government, and ARI, named for an inveterate enemy of socialism, is explicitly supporting it. Onkar Ghate, ARI’s Chief Philosophy Officer, wrote a paper called ‘A Pro-Freedom Approach to Infectious Disease’ which he claims is “based on Rand’s conception of liberty.” This paper is a mishmash. He admits that healthcare is heavily controlled by the government on the one hand, and then says this fact imposes different responsibilities on the government such as spending more money on hospital capacity. Why is he talking about what the government should do in a government-controlled health care system? Why isn’t he talking about why those controls should be eliminated instead? Ghate states: “In sum, government should not have the power to lock us down in our homes even during a widespread, uncontained outbreak of an infectious disease… But there are valid steps our government should take to increase the capacity of our government-controlled healthcare system…” (Italics added.) He also states that during a pandemic, the controls that cripple doctors, hospitals, etc. should be “suspended.” Why not permanently removed? Why no support for the doctors who want controls removed, but have been silenced and vilified, and face the looming threat of losing their jobs and removal of their medical licenses for resisting government controls? The government should never be involved in medical decisions between doctor and patient -- it is always a violation of individual rights. Before any medical procedure can take place, the patient must give informed consent. Is the Rand Institute fighting the threat of forced vaccine mandates? This year the employees working at ARI’s annual Objectivist Conference (OCON) were required to be vaccinated. Attendees were required to either show proof of vaccination or bring proof of a negative result from a COVID-19 test. Since information about alternate treatments is being suppressed, how can anyone who gets the vaccine be said to have been informed before consent? And if not, then how can anyone morally pressure/require anyone to be vaccinated? ARI actually did the immoral thing by requiring the vaccine for their staff. Does this give aid and comfort to those who would require vaccine passports and mandatory medicine for all citizens? It does. What is needed is a robust rejection of this sort of requirement, not a moral collapse in the face of cultural pressure. Has ARI been in California too long? ARI promotes as their COVID expert, alleged Objectivist Dr. Amesh Adjala, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. On August 28, he spoke at OCON about the pandemic, the only doctor at the conference who spoke about the pandemic. Adalja sings the praises of Dr. Fauci, thinks he is at a genius level in understanding infectious diseases, and is above any criticism. Adalja supports the CDC, thinks they should be more aggressive in telling people what to do, and thinks the government needs to reassure people about the safety of the vaccines. He advocates for the global health bureaucracy, the World Health Organization (WHO), an agency of the taxpayer-funded United Nations, the same United Nations that Ayn Rand opposed. On September 10, 2021, Adalja described Biden’s action of mandating forced vaccinations as “laudable,” and stated his support for them: "On Thursday, President Biden took a critical step in requiring health care facilities that participate in Medicare and Medicaid programs to mandate vaccination as a condition of participation in this taxpayer-funded government health insurance program. It is not ideal that it came to this but, for too long, many hospital administrators have lacked sufficient courage or long-range vision to take this action on their own." Not ideal? Adalja is fully in favor of vaccine mandates (and passports) and was in favor of government schools mandating vaccinations before the pandemic. He pushes vaccines and only vaccines and does not believe people can choose to be exempt from them other than for a medical reason. In other words, he is opposed to medical freedom. There are physicians in the Objectivist community who disagree with Adalja, but their voices are not heard. Instead, ARI supports a central planning statist. On September 8, 2021, Harry Binswanger, a former associate of Ayn Rand, founder of ARI, and current member of the board of directors, claimed that there is conclusive evidence that the vaccine is safe and effective. One of his reasons is because “Dr. Amesh Adalja, the Objectivist infectious disease specialist, is strongly pro-vaccine.” Binswanger also cites a statement by Paul Goepfert, M.D., the director of the Alabama Vaccine Research Clinic, who claims that no vaccine has ever had any long-term negative side effects. This claim is utterly false. The long-term result of the swine flu shot for a woman named Judy Roberts was Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) which left her partially paralyzed. In addition, there were 300 lawsuits filed against the government with claims of deaths from GBS due to that shot. It turns out that funding for Goepfert’s research of infectious diseases was obtained via the National Institute of Health (NIH), the CDC, and several pharmaceutical companies. Why is Binswanger echoing the government in pressuring us to accept a vaccination? Why isn’t he talking about the immorality of vaccine coercion, what it means when information about alternate treatments is suppressed, and what should be done about it? On September 10, Ben Bayer, an instructor and fellow at ARI, stated on his Facebook page that he doesn’t agree with Biden’s violation of rights by mandating vaccines, but does he condemn that violation as tyrannical? No, he describes it as “foolish.” Does he advocate resistance to Biden’s mandates? No. He thinks that more companies should require vaccinations as a condition of employment. Ayn Rand was unwavering and consistent in her stand against government-controlled medicine, or for government of any kind except that as a protector, not a violator of rights, and she was in support of American sovereignty. Does anyone really think she would be for the WHO calling the shots for American medicine? What would she say to an institution with her name on it supporting fascism in medicine? This is not the first time ARI has abandoned Ayn Rand’s views in so shocking a manner. There is no excuse for this. Supporting and promoting tyranny is not an unknowing mistake -- mistakes of this magnitude are not innocent. The Ayn Rand Institute either needs to be dismantled or needs a complete change in leadership. As it stands now, the institute which bears her name has become a traitor to her legacy. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/ayn_rand_vs_the_mandate.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 That's forever been the way. Out of dogmatism and straight into "practicalism". More intellectually, and from Rand - intrinsicism must always flip to subjective skepticism. The Ayn Rand Institute, trying hard I think to appeal to a wider audience and - be 'relevant', 'up to date' - have lost their way. Forgotten, basic individual freedom. Forgotten, independent minds. Just follow the experts and authorities we follow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 A school in PA has sent notices out to parents informing them of a new "Code Heart" emergency drill. The parent who shared wrote: "I emailed the principal and asked if there has been an increase in children with cardiac events. He says nationally, there has been an increase. But he’s not sure of the specifics." I can think of one specific: rhymes with "Maxine", or "Wax scene"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 12:28 AM, ThatGuy said: Speaking of Rand and the 'rona, I just came across this article, critical of the ARI's support of the government mandates and such, as being contrary to Ayn Rand's own views: September 18, 2021 Ayn Rand vs. the Mandate By Susan Hanson On September 10, Ben Bayer, an instructor and fellow at ARI, stated on his Facebook page that he doesn’t agree with Biden’s violation of rights by mandating vaccines, but does he condemn that violation as tyrannical? No, he describes it as “foolish.” Does he advocate resistance to Biden’s mandates? No. He thinks that more companies should require vaccinations as a condition of employment. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/ayn_rand_vs_the_mandate.html https://d2lhsb04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/I7+113/d2lhSb04/MWcCGrt6Tg_N3xG2PwsfKCWW6R-97G4HgNqhN1k24Zc3q90_V1-WJV7CgZM-W1Gj3v45VHtkyW3xPRvz3V404-W3s315W42MmVQW2lrFpz6L_WY8V1Z8FT4_30tHW7Dg2c_9b_6LYW61w0635sF17vW89spqF6tZbPJW8RCkVD66M9YnW2npbvf4_sM9QW6Dy1Zz8NlRnqW7ZQ2TD8SmMpPVnRkBg52MRwVW74L0kx8VkgjLW8CbXhB2x-_Q8W2D_4YX1S69yxW4lM2tD8v7YJ-W1W7-XL1snqWvW2TvXBg2tSjpFW56Gv1k8bxl3WVnYP1Y7GBT_4W36HHvM5B5XfJVJM4Bk54905VW23wsYF6nKkW3W3mBX7v1h1vztW4W3jsv3hXk_6W5L3QYG1hs-RYW13v9wz870h0XN9jSTZzl_6FxW2zgWp11vT1lq361h1 Susan Hanson reports Ben Bayer said mandated vaccines are merely "foolish"? And "more companies should require vaccinations"? Well, it looks like he has done a turnabout, minimum, 'a pivot'. Why, what changed his mind? Quite certainly, because he's written almost fanatical essays in the past years, extolling abortion rights (preaching to the Objectivist choir, more probably selling O'ism to the secularists and the Left) - also however, abortion at any stage of pregnancy a woman feels like, i.e. "late abortion" -(that I'm dead against, on biological, ethical, humane, grounds - and the right to life) - claiming Rand would have agreed : plainly, unsupportable and likely untrue. But now the contradiction seems to have occurred to Bayer, or maybe he's been reminded, that if you support abortion rights you must consistently support bodily autonomy, the principle uniting vaccine choice AND abortion choice. Contra the hypocrites who vilify the first and parade the latter. Either, then, he presses for abortion rights and opposes vax mandates - or has to drop the first (Bayer's apparently personal mission). Too late in the day, and coming off the fence where ARI intellectuals have sat recently, he yesterday mounted the above reasonable argument on freedom to choose for both. [His dated knowledge about the effectiveness of masking has been disproven many times. If he couldn't deduce this from the evidence: the most obediently masked (and fully vaxxed) places e.g. Hong Kong, Germany have had the biggest infection surges very recently]. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 6 hours ago, anthony said: https://d2lhsb04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/I7+113/d2lhSb04/MWcCGrt6Tg_N3xG2PwsfKCWW6R-97G4HgNqhN1k24Zc3q90_V1-WJV7CgZM-W1Gj3v45VHtkyW3xPRvz3V404-W3s315W42MmVQW2lrFpz6L_WY8V1Z8FT4_30tHW7Dg2c_9b_6LYW61w0635sF17vW89spqF6tZbPJW8RCkVD66M9YnW2npbvf4_sM9QW6Dy1Zz8NlRnqW7ZQ2TD8SmMpPVnRkBg52MRwVW74L0kx8VkgjLW8CbXhB2x-_Q8W2D_4YX1S69yxW4lM2tD8v7YJ-W1W7-XL1snqWvW2TvXBg2tSjpFW56Gv1k8bxl3WVnYP1Y7GBT_4W36HHvM5B5XfJVJM4Bk54905VW23wsYF6nKkW3W3mBX7v1h1vztW4W3jsv3hXk_6W5L3QYG1hs-RYW13v9wz870h0XN9jSTZzl_6FxW2zgWp11vT1lq361h1 Susan Hanson reports Ben Bayer said mandated vaccines are merely "foolish"? And "more companies should require vaccinations"? Well, it looks like he has done a turnabout, minimum, 'a pivot'. Why, what changed his mind? Quite certainly, because he's written almost fanatical essays in the past extolling abortion rights (preaching to the Objectivist choir) - also however, at any stage of pregnancy, i.e. "late abortion" - that I'm dead against, for biological, ethical, humane reasons - and legally - claiming Rand also would have: plainly, unsupportable and likely untrue. But now the contradiction seems to have occurred to Bayer, or he's been informed, that if you support abortion rights you must consistently support bodily autonomy, the principle uniting vaccine choice AND abortion choice. Contra the hypocrites who vilify the first and parade the latter. Either then he supports abortion rights and opposes vax mandates or drops the first, Bayer's personal mission. Too late in the day and coming off the fence where ARI intellectuals have sat recently, he yesterday mounted the above reasonable defense on the freedom to choose. I cannot stand to watch Bayer and co. speak. Every time I see a video or livestream of them, they come across as wannabe "philosopher kings", passing down their "wisdom and decrees" for the "little people", brooking no dissent. There was even on fellow who concluded a stream by saying "don't listen/read the alternative media, listen to US." (And Bayer has this creepy stare about him, a way of looking dead-on into the camera at the viewer, as if he were trying to Ayn Rand, penetrating the soul of the viewer with "jet black eyes", only with him, it just comes off confrontational and arrogant, without her insights to back it up.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 TG I know what you mean. What's that superior attitude about? From all of them, BB, OG, EJ, Binswanger and Brook. Have they the direct line to Rand? i.e. the O'ist priesthood. The sophistry in their argument is what bugs me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, ThatGuy said: And Bayer has this creepy stare about him, a way of looking dead-on into the camera at the viewer, as if he were trying to Ayn Rand, penetrating the soul of the viewer with "jet black eyes", only with him, it just comes off confrontational and arrogant, without her insights to back it up. TG, I haven't seen any videos with Bayer in them yet (despite you guys talking about him). But I know that stare. I recently saw it on Harry Binswanger when I saw a video of him, Elan Journo, and Onkar Ghate (who's countenance I could not judge since he was participating only by audio). The characteristics of this stare are: the eyebrows are slightly raised (only slightly), the eyes don't blink, or at least blink much less often than normal, the eye's saccades (darting around looking at different things) cover a much smaller area than normal, and the person's body doesn't move. The emotional impression is that the person's eyes are boring right into your soul. In Scientology, they have a Training Routine to teach people how to do this on command.* I don't know if Binswanger ever studied this, but it sure looked like he did. His normal posture, at least in this video, is relaxed and sure of himself. Notice that relaxed people move around a bit. But Binswanger turned the stare on and off when he stopped moving and looked directly at the camera for longer periods than normal, or broke the stare and changed back to relaxed. And it seemed like he did that volitionally. Also, he knew Carl Barney and Carl was extremely familiar with these Training Routines. These are the first things people learn in Scientology. They are taught to everyone. It is easily imaginable to see Barny talking about this and teaching it to a chosen few behind closed doors wherever he goes. * For those interested, this particular Training Routine consists of a student sitting in a chair and an auditor sitting in another chair directly opposite. The student has to stare at the eyes of the auditor without blinking or looking away or moving. Every time the student blinks or looks away or moves noticeably, the auditor says, "Fail. Please start over," or something to that effect. This goes on for about an hour per session until the student is eventually able to achieve some minimum time goal without blinking or looking away or moving (I don't remember what that is). Actors, by the way, absolutely love the Training Routines whether they become full-on Scientologists or not. Like it or not, these exercises work (except for a silly one where you are supposed to make inanimate objects obey--to some extent--a verbal command laced with strong emotion and focused intent). An odd side effect is that some students go into a deep trance and this brings up all kinds of shit from their subconscious. Most people control it because of the TR's rules against moving. I've read of a few cases where this trance experience helped people prone to disassociate from reality go even further and cause all kinds of trouble. Some even lose memory of the event. I've never done this TR, but one day I might if I can find a kindred spirit to be an auditor just so I can zap people with that stare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Actors, by the way, absolutely love the [Scientology] Training Routines whether they become full-on Scientologists or not. It could be seen as the other way around: Scientology absolutely loves actors. The church seems to be the only religious organization that staffs a huge Celebrity Center. Leah Remini's "Aftermath" series spends a lot of time 'inside' the celebrity center. 4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Like it or not, these exercises work (except for a silly one where you are supposed to make inanimate objects obey--to some extent--a verbal command laced with strong emotion and focused intent). Here's a rundown the of the TRs, from Perry Scott: Scientology Training Routines. Quote TR 0: Confronting [ Sit with eyes open for hours, not moving or twitching, "confronting" coach. For the two TR 0 drills, some hours without any reaction is a pass, 2 hrs recommended. ] FLUNK! Body Movement. Start. FLUNK! Talking. Start. FLUNK! Eye movement. Start. FLUNK! Non-confront. Start. FLUNK! Not in Present Time. Start. These were the words of my staff coach as I began this strange exercise of "confronting" a person. FLUNK! is given at Tone 40 and causes shock and confusion. The robotic "Start" command is given to begin the exercise. The last command for each of these drills is "That's it!", words which grew sweeter as training progressed. The student is not really told the rules for this game, but rather simply gets shouted at whenever a mistake is made. This sort of stimulus-response, I learned, is the hallmark of Hubbard's view of human beings (or "raw meat", as new recruits are called) - mere machines with "Start" and "Stop" buttons. TR0 is billed as an auditor's tool for "confronting" the preclear (pc, raw meat, uninitiated mark, etc.), but it's more than that. It is a mind-control technique that opens up the mind for programming. TR 0 induces an eyes-open alpha state, building on OT-TR0. I vividly remember one of the instructions I received while learning TR0: "don't evaluate, just accept the data." Yeah, right. In other words, suspend disbelief and get programmed. The long hours of staring at a fixed object caused hallucinations in me. I didn't realize at the time that this was a sign of hypnosis. The sensory deprivation is incredible. You're working hard on not FLUNK!ing, and having to start over. The Scientology staff coach does a good job of FLUNK!ing you for no apparent reason (at least in your own normally socialized mind), creating all sorts of uncertainty and confusion. Perhaps it was true - thinking about what I felt and saw was causing the trouble. My "cognition" (spoon-fed to me by the Staff) was that I should stop thinking about this situation, even though it was contrary to all my social conditioning. So, I stopped evaluating. I suspended disbelief. I turned off my mind. Of course, this played right into my hypnotists' hands. Reports of the "thousand mile stare" common to Scientologists are a direct result of this training routine. However, the Scientologist isn't staring at you, he's staring through you. Rather than intimidating you by "confront", the Scientologist is paradoxically in a non-confront. He is aware of your presence, but he's in alpha state and has his mind turned off. Trying to talk to someone like this is like trying to teach a pig to sing - it's frustrating for you and it annoys the pig. TR0 forms the basis for nearly everything a Scientologist does, be it reading a book, talking to someone, or solving a problem. So, you're trained to go into a trance by the friendly folks at the Org from Day 1, conditioned to accept suggestion while in alpha state as a normal way to learn, and trained to suspend disbelief by Pavlovian command. The general public are hereby advised to steer clear of this exercise. TR 0: Bullbait [ Sit with eyes open for hours, not moving laughing or twitching, "confronting" coach while s/he tries in every way to make you react. ] Bullbait (TR0 with counter intention from the Pre-Clear) is the next step on the gradient. Here, the suggestive mind (in TR0) accepts contrary data and is not allowed to protest or even acknowledge what is happening. At this point on the Gradient, turning off your mind is mandatory. You will not progress past TR0 Bullbait by thinking about what your tormentor is saying or doing. You must sit passively, wondering what new attack will be used to make you FLUNK!. [...] Tony Ortega and Claire Headley collaborated on a long series at Tony's site The Underground Bunker, called "Up the Bridge: Our step-by-step series on Scientology’s ‘Bridge to Total Freedom’" ... an excerpt from "Scientology Starts Out as Staring Contests." Quote THE BUNKER: So after you’ve mastered communicating by not communicating, what comes next? CLAIRE: TR-0 Bullbait. THE BUNKER: Oh, this is when you have to keep staring straight ahead, but the other person shouts at you or acts up in order to make you flinch. CLAIRE: Yes. When I first did Bullbait, I was horrified and scared. Honestly. Even TR-0 (staring) I thought was a complete joke. Raised in England, I was of the view it’s rude to stare at someone, and I would most often find some notable feature of the person’s face to focus on. Just honestly. In Bullbait, the best idea I could come up with at age 10 was to imagine myself in a bubble, impervious to what was being said or done, so I wouldn’t find it funny and wouldn’t react. The worst was to have a 40- to 50-year-old man start to unbutton my shirt. That was pretty horrifying (and pretty common, mind you). I had a tendency to blush purple back then, and so I had a real rough go of it. THE BUNKER: I’m sorry, that sounds sort of revolting. CLAIRE: Several times I just outright broke down in tears, and then did a real good job of hiding my tears from my supervisors. But yes, Bullbait got pretty gruesome, with yelling and screaming and some touching. The materials state to find the person’s “buttons” — what they will react to -– and then “stomp on them hard” or words to that effect. No mercy. THE BUNKER: We’ve heard testimonials from people who say the experience did subsequently make them stronger participants in conversation. But it sure also seems like an exercise in control, especially if it’s repeated so often, as you point out. So there are additional training routines. What’s next? CLAIRE: In TR-1, the coach gives a flunk for anything not delivered naturally, as your own and in its own unit of time. For example: Me: (holding a copy of Alice in Wonderland) “Curious and curiouser.” Coach: Flunk. That was not natural. Me: “Curious and curiouser” Coach: Good. Me: “Why is a raven like a writing desk?” Coach: Good. And so on. For TR-2, the coach reads from Alice in Wonderland and I have to acknowledge each line he or she delivers: Coach: “Take care of the sense, and the sounds will take care of themselves.” Me: OK. oKAY ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: TG, I haven't seen any videos with Bayer in them yet (despite you guys talking about him). But I know that stare. I recently saw it on Harry Binswanger when I saw a video of him, Elan Journo, and Onkar Ghate (who's countenance I could not judge since he was participating only by audio). The characteristics of this stare are: the eyebrows are slightly raised (only slightly), the eyes don't blink, or at least blink much less often than normal, the eye's saccades (darting around looking at different things) cover a much smaller area than normal, and the person's body doesn't move. The emotional impression is that the person's eyes are boring right into your soul. In Scientology, they have a Training Routine to teach people how to do this on command.* I don't know if Binswanger ever studied this, but it sure looked like he did. His normal posture, at least in this video, is relaxed and sure of himself. Notice that relaxed people move around a bit. But Binswanger turned the stare on and off when he stopped moving and looked directly at the camera for longer periods than normal, or broke the stare and changed back to relaxed. And it seemed like he did that volitionally. Also, he knew Carl Barney and Carl was extremely familiar with these Training Routines. These are the first things people learn in Scientology. They are taught to everyone. It is easily imaginable to see Barny talking about this and teaching it to a chosen few behind closed doors wherever he goes. * For those interested, this particular Training Routine consists of a student sitting in a chair and an auditor sitting in another chair directly opposite. The student has to stare at the eyes of the auditor without blinking or looking away or moving. Every time the student blinks or looks away or moves noticeably, the auditor says, "Fail. Please start over," or something to that effect. This goes on for about an hour per session until the student is eventually able to achieve some minimum time goal without blinking or looking away or moving (I don't remember what that is). Actors, by the way, absolutely love the Training Routines whether they become full-on Scientologists or not. Like it or not, these exercises work (except for a silly one where you are supposed to make inanimate objects obey--to some extent--a verbal command laced with strong emotion and focused intent). An odd side effect is that some students go into a deep trance and this brings up all kinds of shit from their subconscious. Most people control it because of the TR's rules against moving. I've read of a few cases where this trance experience helped people prone to disassociate from reality go even further and cause all kinds of trouble. Some even lose memory of the event. I've never done this TR, but one day I might if I can find a kindred spirit to be an auditor just so I can zap people with that stare. To quote Marty Johnson from LAUGH-IN: "Very interesting"... Makes sense. Although I gotta admit, this particular picture comes to my mind, as well. This one's always been a little too "haughty" for my tastes...(Excepting Frank...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 hours ago, william.scherk said: It could be seen as the other way around: Scientology absolutely loves actors. William, That's true. Except the point of my post was to comment on where that stare came from and even point out that I have seen it in others at ARI like Binswanger, not to do another debunk of Scientology. Oh well, the kneejerk after the word Scientology always comes down to the "don't look because that's kooky" message, doesn't it? btw - Scientology also says to look up words in the dictionary when you don't know them. That must be something else kooky, right? (Actually this last starts out good, but ends up being toxic--covertly and devastatingly toxic--since Scientology gradually replaces normal dictionaries with its own, one that has weird definitions that help isolate members from the rest of the world in their use of language. But the core habit itself, looking up words when you don't know what they mean, is a great habit to get into in any culture.) My own knowledge of this I initially learned about how Training Routines work from Arnie Lerma and they have been later featured in many books from those who left Scientology (I have quite a collection). Lerma was one of the best and most ardent, though. And he eventually had a little problem--from his Wikipedia page: Quote Lerma died by suicide by gunshot at his home in Sylvania, Georgia, on March 16, 2018, after shooting his wife, Ginger Sugerman, in the face. Sugerman survived. . . . On March 28, 2019, the entire content of Arnie Lerma's "Lermanet.com" site was deleted by his surviving widow, Ginger Sugerman. Contents are only accessible through use of the "Wayback Machine" at archive.org. Lermanet.com blog however survived a little bit longer. It looks like there is quite a story there. It's been a while since I dipped my toe into Scientology waters and I had no idea about this. I knew he had passed away, but not like this. I used to read Arnie's site way back when I was still in Brazil. So I was sad to see that it had been deleted. That explained why, in more recent times, I could never find the stuff I knew I read. Somebody, though, has been reconstructing his site more or less as I remember it: Lermanet.com: Exposing the Con. There are holes all over the place and, barring that, Arnie never was that organized--just prolific as all hell. And there are tons of stuff on that site even damaged as it is, so if you want to get lost in a rabbit hole to scratch your anti-Scientology itch, there is the place to be. (Granted, Tony Ortega's site is better for organized research and modern updates, but Arnie's site is an experience in itself. I used to spend hours and hours on it in the past. I also used to dig into places like Operation Clambake and a few others. All of this was before all those tell-all books started coming out--and I recommend it all, sites, books, everything, to those interested in this topic.) I, also, tried to look for Arnie's explanations of the Training Routines in the search engines: "training routines" site:https://lermanet.org or "training routines" "lermanet.org" or "training routines" "lermanet2.com" Who knows? With enough searching, someone may find them. I didn't spend a lot of time this go around. And don't be looking too deeply into lermanet2.com. That link now takes you to weird places at times. (Note: After I had finished writing this post, but before I published it, I tried one more thing and it worked. You can type the following: lermanet2.com into the Wayback Machine, then choose any of the links for 2017 on back. It's all there! I am sure the TR material is, too. But you can't search the site and finding the TR article(s) will be an excavation chore I am not up to right now.) Also, since topic drift has gone into this area, here is Stacy Brooks and Jesse Prince demonstrating the TRs. I doubt this video will go down since it is on Mark Bunker's channel and has been there a long time. Stacy Brooks (former Stacy Young) is an extremely interesting character (in addition to her being a sexy blonde ) I used to follow. She was Bob Minton's mistress for a long time (especially back during the Lisa McPherson scandal). She used to have a lot of videos up, but I think she got hounded so much by the Scientology goon squad, she took them down. I read something somewhere about a settlement and an NDA... There is one video in particular I have been looking for over a long, long time. She was interviewing a German or Swedish dude who spoke English. As she and he talked, he blurted out a parody outline of a typical Hubbard lecture, including the self-serving storytelling and how he cracked the mystery part, that made her crack up against her will. I later listened to (and watched) a few Hubbard lectures and sumbitch, the dude was spot on. But, for the life of me, I can't find that video anymore to get the details right. I've been putting off going through a Hubbard lecture or several and do my own outline based on my memory of this, but, since I want this outline for my persuasion studies, that is probably what I am going to have to eventually do. Michael EDIT: I just had a thought. I wonder if the Deep State has studied Scientology's history of intimidation and lawfare techniques. Many of the techniques are identical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: EDIT: I just had a thought. I wonder if the Deep State has studied Scientology's history of intimidation and lawfare techniques. Many of the techniques are identical... Kinda like house training a puppy . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Those conspiracy plots coming to light. Fauci’s United Front Is Collapsing ⋆ Brownstone Institute BROWNSTONE.ORG Why did Fauci, who in early February was downplaying the seriousness of the virus, flip to the other side (which we know from emails)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 Weird. Tucker Carlson on a rerun, showed a woman in China being hauled out of a restaurant and forced into a medi van vehicle for showing signs of covid . . . choking? And others being hauled off to camps? Gross. Extreme lockdown in Shanghai. And so to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Peter said: Weird. Tucker Carlson on a rerun, showed a woman in China being hauled out of a restaurant and forced into a medi van vehicle for showing signs of covid . . . choking? And others being hauled off to camps? Gross. Extreme lockdown in Shanghai. And so to bed. Peter, Yeah. And when a person is carried off for COVID, they kill that person's pets. Seriously. There is a reason for such brutality. Jack Posobiec (a pro-Trump Navy dude who ended up at the Office of Naval Intelligence, but is now a civilian, lived in Shanghai for a while and speaks fluent Mandarin) believes the CCP's overreaction to the coronavirus has nothing to do with the virus or the west. The following is what Posobiec has said. Since I am explaining this in my own words and not quoting, I might be off on a detail or other. But I am confident I have the gist down correctly. In China, there is a thing called the Mandate of Heaven that goes way back to ancient times. It is similar to the Divine Right of Kings in the West, but it has a couple of critical differences. The first is this doctrine grants a "right to rule" for whatever figure is ruling (and this included the ancient dynasties). But it also grants a right to rebellion for the people if the ruler can't perform well enough to take care of them so as to allow them to be in alignment with the gods. The second is that, even though the Mandate of Heaven is not a formal thing, most Chinese hold to it today. Which means, the Chinese Communist Party has a Mandate of Heaven in the eyes of the Chinese people at large. A ruler mishandling an epidemic is one of the things that will get the Chinese people thinking about their right to rebellion. And if that starts, goodbye CCP. So the CCP is cracking down hard on COVID in a few places in order to have a good story to serve up to the rest of China. Losing the Mandate of Heaven in the people's eyes is one of the few things that terrify the CCP. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Russell Brand: "A Warning". He is on Rumble I just noticed. Totalitarian control. To add, a wake-up call. It's later than you/I think. A Warning RUMBLE.COM As governments increasingly control the narrative when it comes to subjects such as science and war, do we now need to see social... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Fauci: "You use lockdowns to get people vaccinated." And if that doesn't work, what? Go the China route and kill people's dogs and cats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 16 hours ago, ThatGuy said: Fauci: "You use lockdowns to get people vaccinated." And if that doesn't work, what? Go the China route and kill people's dogs and cats? There are no limits to sacrifice, of what "must be done for your good". Why is this man still operating and paid attention? He and his non-science, inhuman policies have been exposed. The endless pandemic for profit and control. Revulsion from the West at the misery inflicted on the Chinese by the CCP should exceed anything else going on. That they have the power to 'remove' those simple pleasures, people's pets, is evil enough. That they can actually carry it off, there are no words for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 Stephen Colbert cancelled his show tonight because of Covid. Around 10 pm, I heard about it during an episode of “Bull.” And he said he was fully vaccinated. Maybe thumping Trump lowered his immune system. I went to the VA this week and they did recommend a fourth vaccine but said I could get it at a local pharmacy, or the VA. CVS and Walgreens are closer so I may get one at those places. Or not. Now if I were traveling by plane or bus or going to any theater, I might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 This is beyond disturbing. And finally it looks like it will break through to the mainstream press. The Pfizer Investigation: COVID Vaccine Lacked Proper Quality Controls RUMBLE.COM The Pfizer Investigation: COVID Vaccine Lacked Proper Quality Controls The Pfizer Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers RUMBLE.COM The Pfizer Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers In short, the hundreds of thousands of Pfizer documents that were released to the public by court order (which Pfizer had asked to remain sealed for 75 years) are telling a story that will probably scare the living daylights out of the American people. Everybody was induced by the government to shove pure crap into their veins and the government knew the crap was there all along. Now people are watching the government try to do this to children and enough parents are scared to finally put the brakes on. The coverup that is being disclosed (and will be much more disclosed in the upcoming days and weeks) is emerging as one of the biggest scandals in US history. Naomi Wolf, along with Steve Bannon's help, put together a crowdsourced effort to go through the Pfizer documents and flag relevant ones for public disclosure--or legal action--depending on the issue. (The current batch is 55,000 documents. There are several batches.) Crowdsourced means people use the Internet to donate their time and efforts for free. For example, Wikipedia came into existence as a crowdsourced organization. Naomi and Steve managed to pull in hundreds and hundreds of people to do this donkeywork. Now they have grown and also have paid attorneys on staff. What they have discovered is appalling. In the videos above, Naomi talks about vaccines that had parts included that came from moldy environments (duly noted in the paperwork and covered up), many deaths during vaccine testing that were simply deleted, exemptions from normal testing procedures rammed through from bribes, the involvement of the Chinese Communist Party, and things like that. If you want to read these efforts in real time, and remember, these are Pfizer's own words written by Pfizer people who thought no one outside of them would see this stuff, go here: Pfizer Documents Analysis - WarRoom This is on Naomi's site, DailyClout. Also, if you wish to volunteer for this effort, go to this Daily Clout link There is also a section for attorneys, but that is by invitation only. Steve is so impressed and gobsmacked by the sheer extent of corruption, ineptitude and malfeasance, he is giving Naomi a segment on the War Room for the next week just so they can get through the main issues uncovered in this project. As the downloads to the War Room podcast are now over 175 million, and Steve will be pounding this issue as hard as he says, along with the inevitable lawsuits upcoming and already in the works, this will become mainstream before long. The fake news media will try to boycott this for as along as they can, but we are near the tipping point and they will have to start covering it. btw - The following looks fishy, kinda like the CFOs know what's coming. They are cashing out to millions of dollars and getting out of Dodge fast. Moderna & Pfizer CFOs Both Stepped Down Days Apart WELOVETRUMP.COM With record-high profits and talks of more boosters, it seems peculiar that high executives from Moderna and Pfizer would step away from their positions. However, the CFOs of both pharmaceutical giants... Buh-bye... But save your documents. You might be surprised to see a posse in your face later... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 For those who are still "trusting the science": "GlaxoSmithKline to Plead Guilty and Pay $3 Billion to Resolve Fraud Allegations and Failure to Report Safety Data" Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in U.S. History "Global health care giant GlaxoSmithKline LLC (GSK) agreed to plead guilty and to pay $3 billion to resolve its criminal and civil liability arising from the company’s unlawful promotion of certain prescription drugs, its failure to report certain safety data, and its civil liability for alleged false price reporting practices, the Justice Department announced today. The resolution is the largest health care fraud settlement in U.S. history and the largest payment ever by a drug company." Read more here: GlaxoSmithKline to Plead Guilty and Pay $3 Billion to Resolve Fraud WWW.JUSTICE.GOV Global health care giant GlaxoSmithKline LLC (GSK) agreed to plead guilty and to pay $3 billion to resolve its criminal and civil liability... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just in case people forget about Mask mandates. A friendly reminder... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Bill Gates on Covid 19. “We didn’t understand that it’s a fairly low fatality rate & that it’s a disease mainly in the elderly, kind of like flu is, although a bit different than that.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 COVID-mania may be waning, but meanwhile, this is out there, flying under the radar...(because the Deep State can't have U.S. citizens deciding on their own health choices, now, can they?) "Biden Handing Over U.S. Sovereignty to WHO" quote: On May 22-28, 2022, ultimate control over America’s healthcare system, and hence its national sovereignty, will be delivered for a vote to the World Health Organization’s governing legislative body, the World Health Assembly (WHA). This threat is contained in new amendments to WHO’s International Health Regulations, proposed by the Biden administration, that are scheduled as “Provisional agenda item 16.2” at the upcoming conference on May 22-28, 2022.1 These amendments will empower WHO’s Director-General to declare health emergencies or crises in any nation and to do so unilaterally and against the opposition of the target nation. The Director-General will be able to declare these health crises based merely on his personal opinion or consideration that there is a potential or possible threat to other nations. If passed, the Biden Administration’s proposed amendments will, by their very existence and their intention, drastically compromise the independence and the sovereignty of the United States. The same threat looms over all the U.N.’s 193 member nations, all of whom belong to WHO and represent 99.44% of the world population.2 These regulations are a “binding instrument of international law entered into force on 15 June 2007.”3 U.N. members states can be required by law to obey or acquiesce to them. unquote read more here: Biden Handing Over U.S. Sovereignty to WHO 2NDSMARTESTGUYINTHEWORLD.SUBSTACK.COM by Peter Breggin MD and Ginger Ross Breggin Please take seriously the severity of this existential threat to everything free people hold dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 TG, They wish. They may get words down, but what good are words when no one enforces them? Besides, more words will be coming before too long. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 "Nonprofit Watchdog Uncovers $350 Million In Secret Payments To Fauci, Collins, Others At NIH" Nonprofit Watchdog Uncovers $350 Million In Secret Payments To Fauci, Collins, Others At NIH WWW.ZEROHEDGE.COM "We also find that during this period, leadership at NIH was involved in receiving third-party payments..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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