Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Add the previous post to this from Steve Bannon's War Room the other day: The Vaccine Causes The Virus To Be More Dangerous RUMBLE.COM The Vaccine Causes The Virus To Be More Dangerous The blurb for this video at the warroom.org site is as follows: Quote Inventor of mRNA Vaccine: Some Covid Vaccines Make the Virus More Dangerous New data suggests that fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting COVID, but could be carrying higher levels of virus than previously understood I didn't provide a permalink for the blurb since the page it is at (the front page) is dynamic and the blurb will not be there later. They did not provide any other link. Once President Trump gets back in, I hope he hires Dr. Malone and Fauci changes his own attire for an orange uniform. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 The Wall Street Journal tried for a COVID-19 story to tug the heartstrings and unleash the subconscious stone-thrower ... amped up in this Raw Story take: 'It’s never looked like this': Tiny Arkansas county reeling as dozens of children hospitalized with COVID Quote [...] Asked about resistance to getting vaccinated, he explained, "There are some people who just aren't afraid of Covid. I haven't figured out how to turn that person, but I do know that making them feel defensive for their passionately held opinion isn't productive." To illustrate the difficulties in convincing locals to get vaccinated, the Journal reported on one nurse who lives in the area and is still refusing to get the shot despite the fact that she lost both her unvaccinated parents, Robert and Vi Herring, to it after they attended their high school reunion. "Ms. [Shanda] Parish said she still won't get it; she simply doesn't trust a newly created vaccine. She doesn't regret that her parents didn't get vaccinated, she said. It was their choice. Instead, she regrets that she was quarantining ahead of a cancer treatment when they fell ill and couldn't be involved in pushing to get them hospitalized sooner," the report states before adding, " Since the Herrings died, Ms. Parish has felt judgment from friends and acquaintances asking why her parents weren't vaccinated—why she didn't make them get vaccinated." [...] Original reporting: Neighbors’ Deaths From Covid-19 Have an Arkansas Town Reassessing Vaccines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, william.scherk said: The Wall Street Journal tried for a COVID-19 story to tug the heartstrings and unleash the subconscious stone-thrower ... amped up in this Raw Story take: William, Do you believe the Raw Story story? Do you think it should be censored? I only ask because the people at Raw Story definitely think the sources I post should be censored. And they work behind the scenes to help make that happen. That way they can be believed without opposition by default. So, do you believe them? (Be careful what you say because Big Brother is watching. People like that hate apostates, or even one of theirs who inadvertently hints the wrong thing, much more than normal enemies...) Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: The Vaccine Causes The Virus To Be More Dangerous Oh Jeesus. That is funny. Or as Roger Miller sang: Chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug Make you want to holler hi-de-ho Burns your tummy, don'tcha know? Chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug Grape wine in a Mason jar Homemade and brought to school By a friend of mine 'n' after class Me and him and this other fool decide . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Peter said: Oh Jeesus. That is funny. Peter, Did you watch the video? Do you know who Dr. Malone is? I bet not. Do you believe he needs to be censored? btw - He's the guy who developed the technology to make the vaccine you took. Without him, there would be no mRNA vaccine. He not only believes in vaccines, he invents them. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 To paraphrase Rand, mockery is not a tool of cognition. On another front, the propaganda machine never stops. CDC Combines Multiple Days of Data into One to Make it Appear Florida is Reporting Record Number of New Daily Covid Cases WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM The CDC with help from fake news media outlets on Monday reported there was a ‘record’ number of Covid cases in Florida on Sunday. “FLORIDA COVID DATA: The state hit yet another record number of... From the article: Quote The CDC with help from fake news media outlets on Monday reported there was a ‘record’ number of Covid cases in Florida on Sunday. “FLORIDA COVID DATA: The state hit yet another record number of new daily cases, reporting 28,317 on Sunday. Here’s the updated state data including cases, deaths, vaccination rates and hospitalizations” – the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported on Monday using the CDC’s inaccurate data. . . . The Florida Health Department scrambled to correct the record as the lie spread like wildfire across several different outlets. “Wrong again. The number of cases CDC released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record.” The FL Health Dept said. . . . “Florida reported a record-breaking 28,317 new cases of COVID-19 for Sunday to the CDC.” WSVN reported. . . . The CDC *knowingly* combined several days worth of reporting and condensed it into one day. The Florida Health Department took to Twitter to correct the record – AGAIN: “This is not accurate. Florida follows CDC guidelines reporting cases Monday through Friday, other than holidays. Consequently, each Monday or Tuesday, there will be two or three days of data reported at a time. When data is published, it is attributed evenly to the previous days.” . . . “The number of cases CDC released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record.” The good thing about stats (for con men) is that you can lie about them and sound like you are an authority... Here's a question all reasonable people who are affected by the virus should ask. Why does the CDC feel the need to act like a bunch of con men? All the time? After all, they do what con men do, they keep doing it, and they keep getting busted for it, over and over and over. If it looks like a duck... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Did you watch the video? Grumble. Grumble. No. I am fully vaccinated which speaks for MY rationality, and I even got the Shingle's vaccine to prevent shingles. Small Pox too, Measles. Etc. Yet here I am still alive. I would suggest you stop listening to . . . blank . . . and believing them. As Jake on "Two and a Half Men" frequently said, "You know what I mean." Listen to a doctor. As I have frequently mentioned my sister is an RN at a California hospital, my niece is a VA nurse. My daughters and son in laws, nephews, etc, are in Medicine, or teaching. I have the VA medical staff and a pulmonary doctor. They all say get the shot. As Ayn Rand might have said, I suggest you seriously re-examine . . . "You know what I mean." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, Peter said: As Ayn Rand might have said, I suggest you seriously re-examine . . . "You know what I mean." Peter, That is exactly why I seek info that is being censored. I want to take a look for myself. How can one check a premise if one is impeded from looking at information? Easy. One has to believe only in what the non-censored say. Right? I don't call that rational. This is the same problem ARI has had for decades due to their policy of sitting on and rewriting Rand's unpublished material. Then saying you have to trust them. They are a little better these days, but I still don't trust them. btw - There are plenty of doctors out there who say be careful with the shot because it's not what it is being sold as. I get it that you trust the doctors you consulted and I, also, believe this is a good rule of thumb where conflicting agendas are flying around all over the place. That doesn't transmute into ALL doctors, though. The doctors--the many doctors--who differ are being censored. That bothers me. It makes me trust the system less. In fact, it makes me distrust the system. Michael 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: There are plenty of doctors out there who say be careful with the shot because it's not what it is being sold as. . . . The doctors--the many doctors--who differ are being censored. That bothers me. No sooner than I wrote that then this popped up. You can't make this stuff up. EPIC VIDEO: Dr. Dan Stock: "Everything Being Recommended by the CDC and State Board of Health Is Actually Contrary to All the Rules of Science" ...UPDATE: YouTube Removes Video WWW.THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM Family medical physician Dr. Dan Stock delivered a six-minute lecture to the Mt. Vernon School Board Meeting on the coronavirus and historic failures of the CDC and Indiana State Board of Health. Doctor Stock... Notice that Dr. Dan Stock is a "family medical physician" in Indiana. The video in the article was on YouTube (at this link). A few hours later, it looked like this: Another video on YouTube was put in its place in the article. It was posted yesterday and already has close to half a million views. Mt. Vernon School Board Meeting - Dr. Dan Stock MD I do not think the YouTube video will stay up, so here is the same video on Rumble. That one will stay up. Dr Dan Stock Specialist in Immunology & Inflammation says CDC & NIH is ignoring Science RUMBLE.COM This is Dr. Dan Stock addressing the Mt. Vernon School Board in Indiana over the futility of mask mandates and Covid-19 protocols in most schools. References: https://hancockcountypatriots.blogspot.co Here is the transcript of the video (I found it here Quote Transcript of Dr Dan Stark to the Mt Vernon Community School Corporation Friday August 7th 2021 Mt Vernon Indiana Guilty as charged. Dr. Dan Stark, [redacted The address you're about to see is hard to believe 18 months into this and still having a problem. And I would suggest the reason we still have a problem is because we're doing things that are not useful and we're getting our sources of information from the Indiana State board of Health and the CDC who actually don't bother to read science before they do this. I'm actually a functional family medicine physician. That means I am speciality trained in immunology and inflammation, regulation. And everything being recommended by the CDC and the State Board of Health is actually contrary to all the rules of science. So things you should know about coronavirus and all other respiratory viruses, they are spread by aerosol particles which are small enough to go through every mask. By the way, the literature that supports all of that is in a flash drive that we presented to you. It's been given to the secretary. As a matter of fact, it quotes at least three studies that’s sponsored by the NIH to that exact fact, even though the CDC in the NIH have chosen to to ignore the very science that they paid to have done. That is why you keep struggling with this, is because you cannot make these viruses go away. The natural history of all respiratory viruses is that they circulate all year long waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter or become deranged, as has happened recently with these vaccines. And then they cause symptomatic disease because they cannot be filtered out and they have animal reservoirs. And this is a very important point. No one can make this virus go away. The CDC has managed to convince everybody that we can handle this like we did smallpox, where we could make a virus go away. Smallpox had no animal reservoirs. The only thing it learned to infect was humans. That's why we're able to make that virus go away. That will not happen with this any more than it will with influenza, the common cold, respiratory syncytial virus, adenoviral respiratory syndromes, or anything else that has animal reservoirs. So the reason you can't do this is because you're trying to do something which has already been tried and can't be done. Equally important is that vaccination changes none of this, especially with this vaccine. And I would hope this board would start asking itself before it considers taking the advice of the CDC, the NIH and the state board of health, why we are doing things about this that we didn't do for the common cold, influenza, or respiratory syncytial virus? And then ask yourself, why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective having a breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that? And to help you understand that, you need to know the condition that is called antibody mediated viral enhancement. That is a condition done when vaccines work wrong, as they did in every coronavirus study done in animals on coronaviruses after the SARS outbreak and done in respiratory syncytial virus where a vaccine used in a vulnerable individual, done the wrong way, which why it cannot be done right for respiratory virus, which has a very low pathogenicity rate, causes the immune system to actually fight the virus wrong and let the virus become worse than it would with native infection. And that is why you are seeing an outbreak right now. In fact, in that flash drive you're going to have coming to you in the emails with six extra [??obiate] studies showing that 75 percent of people who had covid-19 positive symptom cases in Barnstable, Massachusetts outbreak were fully vaccinated. Therefore, there is no reason for treating any person vaccinated any differently than any person unvaccinated. You should also know that no vaccine, even the ones I support and would give to myself and my children, ever stops infection. In 2014, there was outbreak of mumps in the National Hockey League. The only people who came down the symptoms were the people who were unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status. Boy, that sounds like a great argument for vaccines, but a question that you should ask yourself, knowing that half of the people who came down with symptomatic disease had no contact with an unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status individual, where did they get the disease? And the answer was “from the vaccinated individuals.” No vaccine prevents you from getting infection. You get infected, you shed pathogen. This is especially true of viral respiratory pathogens. You just don't get symptomatic from it. So you cannot stop spread. You cannot make these numbers that you've planned on get better by doing any of the things you're doing, because that is the nature of viral respiratory pathogens. And you can't prevent it with a vaccine because they don't do the very thing you're wanting them to do. And you will be chasing this the remainder of your life until you recognize that the Center for Disease Control and the Indiana State Board of Health are giving you very bad scientific guidance. And instead read the articles that are coming in the email and on this flash drive and listen to the people in this audience here tonight who actually have recognized the advice they are getting from the CDC and the NIH is counterfactual. And that's why you're still fighting this with this vaccine that supposedly was going to make all of this go away. But it suddenly managed to make an outbreak of covid- 19 develop in the middle of the summer when vitamin D levels are at their highest. By the way, the other thing that would be necessary, any vaccine restriction to be considered is if there were no other treatment available. And I can tell you, having treated over 15 covid-19 patients, that between active loading with vitamin D, ivermectin and zinc, that there is not a single person who has come anywhere near the hospital. And we already have studies that show that if you achieve a 25 hydroxy vitamin D level greater than fifty five, your risk of covid-19 death will drop down to one quarter of the population average for the United States. And there are active treatment trials included on that flash drive that the show the same is true. So if you were going to discriminate based upon vaccine, you should also discriminate based upon 25 hydroxy vitamin D level, zinc taste test response ,and probably previous infections. Since there are also studies like Flash Drive that show that people who have recovered from covid-19 infection actually get no benefit from vaccination at all, no reduction in symptoms, no reduction in hospitalization and suffer two to four times the rate of side effects if they are subsequently vaccinated. Therefore, the policies that you are basing on are totally counterfactual. I don't blame this board for that because I know you aren't scientists and you've thought it was reasonable to listen to the CDC, NIH and the Indiana State Board of Health, but I would encourage that instead, you listen to the people out here in this audience and read what's on that data drive. And if anybody here in this board has any questions about anything on that, I will happily come back and sit with you individually. If you would like to explain the science behind this and if you're worried about being sued by somebody because you don't follow the guidance of the CDC and the NIH, I will tell you have a free pro bono expert testimony at your disposal. I will testify in defense of this court turning down all these recommendations for free at any time, in any court. Thank you. Dr. Dan Stock Also, Dr. Stock gave more information about this speech at his blog: Hancock County Patriots : Dr. Dan Stock's Presentation to the Mt. Vernon School Board in Indiana Over The Futility of Mask Mandates and Covid-19 Protocols HANCOCKCOUNTYPATRIOTS.BLOGSPOT.COM On Friday, August 7th Dr. Dan Stock addressed the Mt. Vernon School Board in Indiana over the futility of mask mandates and Covid-19 protoco... This is a Blogger blog, which means Google owns it. So it may happen that this post will go too viral and Google will shut it down. Because of this, I am copy/pasting part of the post. It gives the resources that back up Dr. Stock's statements. Quote On Friday, August 7th Dr. Dan Stock addressed the Mt. Vernon School Board in Indiana over the futility of mask mandates and Covid-19 protocols in most schools. SO, what happened after Dr. Stock spoke? Let's just say, his speech had an impact. The school board "tabled" their plans and will "contemplate" what Dr. Stock said and make a decision by August 16th. If you would like transcripts of his speech click HERE. In his presentation, he references a flash drive he gave the school board members to review with all of the scientific literature he referenced. Click on the links to access the following studies. 1. SARS-CoV2-Transmission Among Marine Recruits during Quarantine. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 2. Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 3. Vitamin D for prevention of respiratory tract infections: A systematic review and meta-analysis. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 4. Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 5. CDC assessment of non-pharmaceutical influenza methods. 6. Federalist cases/mortality mask comparison 7. Heritage Foundation Study - In fact, mask use during the pandemic has been recommended by The Heritage Foundation’s Coronavirus Commission guidelines. However, our findings do suggest that public health strategies relying predominantly on mask mandates are inadequate, and thus other initiatives, in addition to mask wearing, should have been a component of policies aimed to limit the spread of the disease. 8. Declaration of Great Barrington- The Great Barrington Declaration- As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection. Over 60,000 medical experts have signed this declaration. 9. Covid-19 Breakthrough Infections in Vaccinated Health Care Workers. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 10. Calcifediol Treatment and Hospital Mortality Due to COVID-19: A Cohort Study READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 11. Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 12. Calcifediol treatment and COVID-19-related outcomes READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 13. "Effect of calcifediol treatment and best available therapy versus best available therapy on intensive care unit admission and mortality among patients hospitalized for COVID-19: A pilot randomized clinical study. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 14. Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 15. Community Use Of Face Masks And COVID-19: Evidence From A Natural Experiment Of State Mandates In The US READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 16. Face-Masks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis 17. Infection Fatality Ratios for COVID-19 Among Non-Institutionalized Persons 12 and Older: Results of a Random-Sample Prevalence Study READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 18. Open Schools, COVID-19, and Child and Teacher Morbidity in Sweden. READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 19. Face-Masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: a systematic review READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 20. Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gathering- Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021 READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 21. Short term, high-dose vitamin D supplementation for COVID-19 disease: a randomized, placebo-controlled, study READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. 22. Rapid Expert Consultation on the Effectiveness of Fabric Masks for the COVID-19 Pandemic (April 8, 2020) READ THE PDF STUDY HERE. And who is Dr. Stock? Is he a nut case who doesn't have any credentials and practices communion with his spiritual ancestors out in the woods as he consults a backwater preacher? Is he someone who deserves to be mocked? Well, I checked around and he's basically as he says he is--a normal doctor, a good competent doctor. The most concise information I found (for the purposes of this post) is on his Linkedin page (see here). He works and has worked at the following. Quote Experience: Grifols Medical Director, Grifols Plasma Grifols Jun 2019 - Present - 2 years 3 months Anderson, Indiana, United States Family Medicine Physician PureHealth Functional Family Medicine Mar 2014 - Present - 7 years 6 months Noblesville, IN Integrative Direct Primary Care Family Practitioner Physician Activate Healthcare Dec 2013 - Jul 2015 - 1 year 8 months Anderson, IN Family Medicine Practitioner Lecture bureau speaker Liposcience 1990 - 2014 - 24 years Physician Community Health Network Aug 1995 - May 2013 - 17 years 10 months Lawrence Family Care Family Physician I think that's enough to make my point. Like this doctor, there are plenty of doctors across the USA--and the world for that matter--saying something fishy is going on with the vaccines. They are not being refuted. They are being censored. What is the rational value to be had in censoring these doctors? Or other people saying the same thing, for that matter? None. That's what. There is no value in this for a rational society. In my world, this is a no-brainer. Let the doctors speak. Let the establishment speak. And let people decide for themselves. It's called freedom of speech. Michael 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Massie nails this essence of this debate. It's not about not "trusting science"; it's about not trusting bad actors who are usurping science for other ends. " ("But you're not being objective! You're an Objectivist, aren't you? AREN'T YOU? Trust the science!!!" Well....No. In addition to the censorship and deplatforming, which prohibits any attempt for an objective analysis. And re: "Acts of ommission and co-mission": Well, Rand herself pointed out that "lies of omission" are a particularly nasty form of lies, and even points that out as one of the methods of "the Comprachicos": Quote Some of the brighter children—those who are mentally active and do want to learn are caught in a different conflict. Struggling to integrate the chaotic snatches of information taught in their classes, they discover the omissions, the non sequiturs, the contradictions, which are seldom explained or resolved. Their questions are usually ignored or resented or laughed at or evaded by means of explanations that confuse the issue further. A child may give up, in bewilderment, concluding that the pursuit of knowledge is senseless, that education is an enormous pretense of some evil kind which he cannot understand—and thus he is started on the road to anti-intellectuality and mental stagnation. And Peikoff calls out "sins of omission" in OPAR: Quote The moral man may lack a piece of knowledge or reach a mistaken conclusion; but he does not tolerate willful evil, neither in his consciousness nor in his action, neither in the form of sins of commission nor of sins of omission. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 "In-DOCTOR-ination"... "Public School Starts Day With Pledge Of Allegiance To Dr. Fauci" Public School Starts Day With Pledge Of Allegiance To Dr. Fauci BABYLONBEE.COM RICHMOND, VA - A local 5th-grade class started classes this morning by standing and reciting the pledge of allegiance to Dr. Fauci, as is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 What in the literal fuck… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfoot Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Jules Troy said: What in the literal fuck… illiterate fudge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfoot Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 20 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Peter, That is exactly why I seek info that is being censored. I want to take a look for myself. How can one check a premise if one is impeded from looking at information? Easy. One has to believe only in what the non-censored say. Right? I don't call that rational. This is the same problem ARI has had for decades due to their policy of sitting on and rewriting Rand's unpublished material. Then saying you have to trust them. They are a little better these days, but I still don't trust them. btw - There are plenty of doctors out there who say be careful with the shot because it's not what it is being sold as. I get it that you trust the doctors you consulted and I, also, believe this is a good rule of thumb where conflicting agendas are flying around all over the place. That doesn't transmute into ALL doctors, though. The doctors--the many doctors--who differ are being censored. That bothers me. It makes me trust the system less. In fact, it makes me distrust the system. Michael Michael, Thanks for reminding me why I read Objectivist Living. On a side note. I listen to a podcast of Victor David Hanson. His arsenal is sets of facts that he straightforwardly (with no axe to grind) goes through whenever asked about how we got here. Its plain to see the extent of the moral crimes from the items he lays out that are self explanatory. So...just thank you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfoot Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 21 hours ago, Peter said: Grumble. Grumble. No. I am fully vaccinated which speaks for MY rationality, and I even got the Shingle's vaccine to prevent shingles. Small Pox too, Measles. Etc. Yet here I am still alive. I would suggest you stop listening to . . . blank . . . and believing them. As Jake on "Two and a Half Men" frequently said, "You know what I mean." Listen to a doctor. As I have frequently mentioned my sister is an RN at a California hospital, my niece is a VA nurse. My daughters and son in laws, nephews, etc, are in Medicine, or teaching. I have the VA medical staff and a pulmonary doctor. They all say get the shot. As Ayn Rand might have said, I suggest you seriously re-examine . . . "You know what I mean." Listen to a Dr? As one who knows everything there is? They aren't scientists. I spent less time on getting a shot for SARS-CoV-2 than on this newly minted lack of bedside manner, "Dr" who upon seeing an "elevated" score for cholesterols next words were statins. F'em and the horse they ride in on. Long gone are the days of trusting whatever comes out of their mouths without giving consideration to your mind, your body first. Have you seen the Olympics? Ever hear of a Dr Larry Nassar? No? Or the corrupt Olympic organization (that allowed Russia to pose as ROC this year after its use of drugs in RIo) that attempted to give $200M to the over 150 girls that he penetrated? Sure trust the Drs', lawyers, vendors that come into your home, politicians, Chinese. Care to add more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 We are in a bad state in this country when the following is considered good news. BREAKING: Delta, Southwest, and American Airlines WILL NOT Require Employees to Receive Experimental COVID-19 Jabs BREAKING: Delta, Southwest, and American Airlines WILL NOT Require Employees to Receive Experimental COVID-19 Jabs WELOVETRUMP.COM I’ll admit, this was shocking news. After United Airlines announced an ultimatum for all their employees to receive the experimental COVID-19 jab, I thought other airlines would follow suit. But that doesn’t appear... Hopefully, their courage will give courage to the other airline companies. Freedom is serious. It's easy to lose and hard as hell to get back. Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, turkeyfoot said: Listen to a Dr? If you are sick or in an accident, I would suggest going to a doctor, the hospital, or even a nurse practitioner at one of those one hour or less emergency care places. I would not consult the internet if it is serious. But I guess you don't trust any doctors so at least check out Web MD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Summary Skin rash, two kidney disorders being studied by EMA Requested more data from Pfizer, Moderna Has not recommended label changes Aug 11 (Reuters) - Three new conditions reported by a small number of people after vaccination with COVID-19 shots from Pfizer (PFE.N) and Moderna (MRNA.O) are being studied to assess if they may be possible side-effects, Europe's drugs regulator said on Wednesday. EU looking into new possible side-effects of mRNA COVID-19 shots WWW.REUTERS.COM Three new conditions reported by a small number of people after vaccination with COVID-19 shots from Pfizer (PFE.N) and Moderna... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfoot Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Peter said: If you are sick or in an accident, I would suggest going to a doctor, the hospital, or even a nurse practitioner at one of those one hour or less emergency care places. I would not consult the internet if it is serious. But I guess you don't trust any doctors so at least check out Web MD. Your tone is condescending. You would not consult other advice if serious enough that a Dr is telling you you're going to lose a limb or organ or libido just accept it, is that what you're telling me? If I had done that I'd be living in pain. 2 torn meniscii, tennis elbow and basal arthritis. An ortho cancelled on me and I instead researched and was treated with my own stem cells and my own blood (PRP). By a non cutting kind of Dr. Sure, I paid. Not a covered event. But I'm worth it. Falling into the trap of never changing perspectives, routines and stifled information might not save your life. And I thought you were making the over arching point that your life or mine is important. Silly me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 For the "Trust the science" files: "CDC Issues Correction on COVID-19 Numbers After Criticism" Resist the Mainstream on Gab: '' - Gab Social GAB.COM Resist the Mainstream on Gab: ' CDC Issues Correction on COVID-19 Numbers After... "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday revised its COVID-19 tracker for Florida after the state’s health department asked the agency to correct what they said were wrongly reported numbers. "How we got here: The Florida Department of Health claimed Monday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention inaccurately reported the number of coronavirus cases in the state. The department argued that the agency’s daily count of coronavirus cases in Florida for Sunday reflected several days of reporting and was inaccurate." "The state’s health department took to Twitter to dispute multiple reports that picked up the numbers provided by the CDC. “'The number of cases @CDCgov released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record,' the department tweeted on Monday. "The story: On Tuesday, the CDC told Spectrum News that it’s working to correct the numbers. Later that day, the agency updated the count, but it still does not match the numbers that the Florida health department said were correct. "The CDC initially reported that Florida recorded 28,317 new cases on Sunday but changed that number to 19,584 by Tuesday. The health department, however, claimed there were 15,319 new cases on Sunday." CDC Issues Correction on COVID-19 Numbers After Criticism RESISTTHEMAINSTREAM.ORG The numbers still don't match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 CDC Forced To "Adjust" Sunday's Florida "Record" COVID Count Lower By Almost 50% After State Health Department Cries Foul On Data Quote The CDC has been forced to "adjust" its Covid-19 case tracker for Florida after the state's health department took to Twitter earlier this week to call out incorrect data. As of Tuesday, the CDC "was working with the state’s health department" to get the data right, according to a report from Fox News. Florida's health department called out the incorrect CDC information publicly, stating earlier this week: "Wrong again. The number of cases @CDCgov released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record." Wrong again. The number of cases @CDCgov released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record. https://t.co/nbKnBNLzvU — Florida Dept. Health (@HealthyFla) August 10, 2021 CDC Forced To "Adjust" Sunday's Florida "Record" COVID Count Lower By Almost 50% After State Health Department Cries Foul On Data WWW.ZEROHEDGE.COM ...unintentional? Too late to correct all those Sunday morning political shows 'gloating' over DeSantis' state outbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Sheriff Andy Taylor: Afraid of shots, Opie? Nope, Pa. The doctor recommended you get the shot. So why don’t you? Pa, I want to find a doctor who says I don’t need the shot. But Opie, you got all the shots the school requires to enter the building and go to school. I know Pa, but the coronavirus shot is different. How so, Opie? I read stuff about it from an Tibetan doctor on the internet. I researched that Opie. It ain’t true. 99 percent of the doctors in America, India, South Africa, and Europe think people should get the Covid-19 vaccination. But Pa, I only listen to the one percent, and stop being so condescending. I have the mental capacity and maturity of a ten year old . . . even though I’m only nine. Sigh. Maybe Aunt Bea can talk some sense into you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Peter said: Sheriff Andy Taylor: Afraid of shots, Opie? Nope, Pa. The doctor recommended you get the shot. So why don’t you? Pa, I want to find a doctor who says I don’t need the shot. But Opie, you got all the shots the school requires to enter the building and go to school. I know Pa, but the coronavirus shot is different. How so, Opie? I read stuff about it from an Tibetan doctor on the internet. I researched that Opie. It ain’t true. 99 percent of the doctors in America, India, South Africa, and Europe think people should get the Covid-19 vaccination. But Pa, I only listen to the one percent, and stop being so condescending. I have the mental capacity and maturity of a ten year old . . . even though I’m only nine. Sigh. Maybe Aunt Bea can talk some sense into you. "Shazam, Sgt. Carter!"- Thus spoke Tuskegee Petey. ---- "Hydroxychloroquine worked the entire time. And they knew it." Emmy on Gab: '' - Gab Social GAB.COM Emmy on Gab: 'RepostFollow AllCommentFollow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 "So let me get this straight... Fauci funds a lab that ‘accidentally’ leaks a deadly man-made bio weapon. Then we assign him to help push a vaccine for it. All the while he and Big Pharma fill their pockets with the profits. We are fools.” Emmy on Gab: '' - Gab Social GAB.COM Emmy on Gab: '' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 What are the “rich and famous” doing? From Business Insider: . . . Trump privately received the coronavirus vaccine while he was president in January . . . . Trump encouraged his supporters to get the shot for the first time on Sunday . . . . As president, Trump frequently dismissed following public health guidelines during the pandemic and mocked mask-wearing on several occasions. The former president contracted the coronavirus in October and was hospitalized for three nights at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. From The Sun: . . . On December 21, 2020, then-President-Elect Biden received the first dose of the Pfizer and BioNTech coronavirus vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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