The mods (and some posters) on OO.net can be harsh, that's true. (I actually don't know how I've yet to be banned myself). Even so, I think it's a bit childish to run off to another forum complaining about it. Who gives a shit? So you got banned, and obviously you don't think that place is worth your time, so why not leave it at that? At first glance it may not seem like it, but there are PLENTY of wonderful people over there on OO.net. J, if you want a more friendly tone, you should enter OO.net chat sometime. EDIT: Joel, way to pick the biggest jerks on the board. There are numerous other posters that are really kind, intelligent people, but I guess I'll leave it up to the wise ones to go look for themselves. Nice to see you actually using your real name for once (if that is, in fact, your real name *raises eyebrow*.)