Natanyahu Lowers the Boom

[moralist]

Only that they (many Palestinians) want peace and prosperity - and revenge on the Jews, as the icing on top.

...and those two are mutually exclusive.

Living next to successful Israel is also a constant reminder of being a failure. If the Palestinians had spent all that money, time, and labor on being a decent honest trading partner with Israel instead of on arms, tunnels, and missiles trying to destroy the Jews, they would have been just as successful as Israel.

"I will bless those who bless you,

and whoever curses you I will curse;"

Genesis 12:3

Greg

[Wolf DeVoon]

If the Palestinians had spent all that money, time, and labor on being a decent honest trading partner ... they would have been just as successful as Israel.

Wishful thinking. Ashkenazi Israelis and U.S. Jews who finance them outgun Palestinian IQ by two standard deviations,

not to mention Islamic obligation of jihad and the fact that Palestinians are militarily blockaded by Israel.

http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/ashkenazi-mizrahi-arab-iq-in-israel/

http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-Jews.htm

http://chronicle.com/article/The-Arab-World-s-Scientific/30759

[moralist]

Wishful thinking.

Yeah, I like to keep in mind that responsibility is fully on the Palestinians for how they have chosen to live.

Ashkenazi Israelis and U.S. Jews who finance them outgun Palestinian IQ by two standard deviations,

It's not IQ. It's a moral code of behavior... and the contrast is stark.

Jewhaters spending years digging miles and miles of tunnels with the sole purpose of murdering Israelis..Imagine if they were to spend all that money time and labor on improving their own society.

not to mention Islamic obligation of jihad and the fact that Palestinians are militarily blockaded by Israel.

Obviously not blockaded enough...

Weapons, ammunition, and the materials to make tens of thousands of rockets have been constantly flowing into Palestine for many years.

[Wolf DeVoon]

responsibility is fully on the Palestinians for how they have chosen to live.

You can't fix stupid. Jews score higher than Asians, Arabs lower than Blacks. It's genetic... er, "ethnocultural."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

"It is difficult to imagine the United States preserving its heritage of individualism, equal rights before the law, free people running

their own lives, once it is accepted that a significant part of the population must be made permanent wards of the state."

The War on Poverty: $15 Trillion and Nothing to Show for It

"concentrations of the poor, the poorly educated, the unemployed and unemployable"

[Selene]

responsibility is fully on the Palestinians for how they have chosen to live.

You can't fix stupid.

And this colorful graph/chart refers too?

I am sure I can guess IQ, however, sample? Size? Year? etc.

[Jules Troy]

"You can't fix stupid."

Damn..no hope for me at all!

"Puts on his (I'm fuxored cap) and goes to pout in the corner.

[anthony]

As by the way, I just read an article by Thomas Sowell ('Is Thinking Obsolete?') : "Some have said we are living in a post-industrial era, while others have said we are living in a post-racial era. But growing evidence suggests we are living in a post-thinking era."

It's not only intelligence - I've known too many intelligent fools- it's first and foremost seeing simple reality, then thinking about it, with whatever you've got, to the maximum. The Jews had to become past-masters at that for every generation to survive.

[Wolf DeVoon]

"You can't fix stupid."

Damn..no hope for me at all!

"Puts on his (I'm fuxored cap) and goes to pout in the corner.

Me, too.

"No one truly wishes to be who they are. I had hoped for a life like David Lean or Stanley Kubrick. In a pinch, I would have settled for Fred Zinneman. What I got instead was Wolf DeVoon -- an isolated beatnik with a second-class brain, whose idea of a good time is a newspaper and a cup of coffee at Denny's." [COGIGG, p.2, quoting "Individualism", G21 Magazine]

The only rational thing for a Palestinian to do is get the hell out, by hook or crook.

How smart does someone need to be to figure that out?

[moralist]

responsibility is fully on the Palestinians for how they have chosen to live.

You can't fix stupid.

It's not a matter of lack of intelligence, Adam. There are a great number of highly intelligent highly educated thoroughly evil people. It's moral values. The Palestinians freely chose the moral values by which they live, and so they get the consequences of those values.

Greg

[Wolf DeVoon]

 The Palestinians freely chose the moral values by which they live

 

You can't possibly be so stupid as to believe that. Women and children independently chose to live in squalor and wreckage?

 

[Wolf DeVoon]

And this colorful graph/chart refers to?

It's a simplified version of this chart at Wikipedia, based on this data (click 'relevance' > 'page 120' > scroll up to p. 118 Table 4.3)

[PDS]

The Palestinians freely chose the moral values by which they live

You can't possibly be so stupid as to believe that. Women and children independently chose to live in squalor and wreckage?

Wolf, Wolf, Wolf.

Don't you understand that the people depicted in the photos get "what they deserve"? I believe Greg has mentioned this 2,206 times.

[BaalChatzaf]

The Palestinians freely chose the moral values by which they live

You can't possibly be so stupid as to believe that. Women and children independently chose to live in squalor and wreckage?

Wolf, Wolf, Wolf.

Don't you understand that the people depicted in the photos get "what they deserve"? I believe Greg has mentioned this 2,206 times.

Those wretched people are victimized by their own "leaders".

Ba'al Chatzaf

[Brant Gaede]

Rand didn't think there were many innocents left in the Soviet Union and embraced the idea of a "just" war with the USSR (Ford Hall Forum) with complete obviousness to the actual horror of war per se. For her war was something of an abstraction. It did not engage her viscerally. Thus she could spend 1942 writing a novel while millions of young men rushed to sign up. Her powerful reality was in her head, not existential, so you ended up with two philosophies: one for living on earth and one for living in your head. They don't completely overlap. The basic fallacy of Objectivism is purblindness to that. This fallacy is not in the actual philosophy, but in the heads of most of its adherents. Makes it hard to travel.

--Brant

"[Objectivism*] sees man as ______________." But her philosophy doesn't "see" anything at all--nothing, zip, nada

*"My philosophy" could be--is--"what I think"

[Selene]

It's a simplified version of this chart at Wikipedia, based on this data (click 'relevance' > 'page 120' > scroll up to p. 118 Table 4.3)

Thank you Wolfe.

I was hoping it would be 2010 or later and dealing with Americans.

As you are aware, this "differential" in "scores" has been attacked since the mid-60's as having "cultural biases."

Funny how that "bias" did not affect the "East Asian" grouping. [i am also suspicious of the "East" Asia grouping].

A...

[Wolf DeVoon]

Those wretched people are victimized by their own "leaders".

Uh-huh.

We are similarly situated. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/4-million-fewer-jobs-how-bls-massively-overestimated-us-job-creation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-05/david-stockman-explains-keynesian-state-wreck-ahead-sundown-america

[moralist]

The Palestinians freely chose the moral values by which they live

You can't possibly be so stupid as to believe that. Women and children independently chose to live in squalor and wreckage?

Don't you understand that the people depicted in the photos get "what they deserve"? I believe Greg has mentioned this 2,206 times.

(2,207)

They are getting exactly what they deserve. The jewhating women support their jewhating husbands and the little kids are taught jewhate by their jewhating parents.

Hamas motto:

"WE LOVE DEATH MORE THAN THE JEWS LOVE LIFE."

This death spiral is completely self lnflicted.

Greg

[moralist]

Those wretched people are victimized by their own "leaders".

The jewhaters elected jewhating Hamas to lead them.

They have only victimized themselves.

Greg

[moralist]

Uh-huh.

We are similarly situated. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/4-million-fewer-jobs-how-bls-massively-overestimated-us-job-creation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-05/david-stockman-explains-keynesian-state-wreck-ahead-sundown-america

That trend simply reflects the fact that America has become a nation of parasites.

Greg

[Wolf DeVoon]

Uh-huh.

We are similarly situated. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/4-million-fewer-jobs-how-bls-massively-overestimated-us-job-creation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-05/david-stockman-explains-keynesian-state-wreck-ahead-sundown-america

That trend simply reflects the fact that America has become a nation of parasites.

Victimized by our "leaders"? our own stupidity?

[Brant Gaede]

The problem is not the cost of these things now but tommorow as they consume all tax revenues which will themselves might not increase as people manage to keep their taxes overall at no more than 20% of the economy no matter what taxes or tax amounts are imposed.

Public displacement of private solutions explain some of the consequences of Social Security and Medicare. Same, same with education. Eventually the government will choke on these things and fund them more and more with inflation. Speaking even more broadly, the desire of democratic (as in a democracy) politicians to avoid any sense from the voters that they are responsible for pain, however necessary, means continual eating of seed corn to the point of eventual mass starvation through the wrong type of consumption. Japan, the United States and Europe are feasting on their capital stock aka the skrinkage of the middle class. Such are the just desserts, just hope they don't come to include some big war such as threatening right now to break out in eastern Europe and the Middle East and--on the back burner, but the burner is lit--off the coast of China (South China Sea, Taiwan, Japan-Korea). The gross insanity is greatest in Ukraine. The United States should jerk itself, NATO and western Europe the hell out of there immediately. The Vietnam War made more sense in the context of seemingly powerful worldwide communist expansion--but Russia, today? The two, big problems are from the two sovereign nation states of Iran and China. Or, Iran and the bomb and China and its hubris. Today American hubris has spread America way too thin. It needs to disengage as rationally as possible where it can when it can but unless it starts right now in Ukraine any rationality in foreign policy is a sick joke. John Kerry as Secretary of State makes for a better clown. Not a very good clown; I didn't say good clown, just "better" clown qua clown than Secretary of State qua Secretary of State.

--Brant

the only thing the Arabs have going for them is the demographic weapon of out-breeding host countries' native populations as in France, so France will go absolutely fascist in 10-20 years (sooner is possible) to keep them from taking over the country by democratic means

[moralist]

Victimized by our "leaders"? our own stupidity?

Neither, Wolf.

We can only be victimized by our own lack of values. It's completely self inflicted.

My own personal financial situation has no relation to that graph simply because I chose not to run with the herd. That's what going Galt is all about.. No one takes Atlas Shrugged seriously as an American Capitalist business operations manual, so by default they end up slaves of that chart.

Greg

[Wolf DeVoon]

Victimized by our "leaders"? our own stupidity?

Neither, Wolf.

We can only be victimized by our own lack of values. It's completely self inflicted.

My own personal financial situation has no relation to that graph simply because I chose not to run with the herd. That's what going Galt is all about.. No one takes Atlas Shrugged seriously as an American Capitalist business operations manual, so by default they end up slaves of that chart.

Greg

Well, that's the whole deal about individualism, right? You're an apostate, an escapee, no longer part of the herd.

Infinitely harder to escape from Gaza. No cultural tradition of individualism. Apostacy is punishable by death.

BTW, you're wrong about "no one takes Atlas Shrugged seriously as a business operations manual." BB&T bank did.

http://books.google.com/books?id=2_7M_656tg4C&pg=PT56&lpg=PT56&dq=bb%26t+bank+atlas+shrugged&source=bl&ots=cGDMgpGNnS&sig=8stsR_77Fjdk3puwJfEinCqu63o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jWbiU_B7iJ3IBOPDgagL&ved=0CDMQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=bb%26t%20bank%20atlas%20shrugged&f=false

http://uk.saxomarkets.com/trading/saxo-news/what-does-ayn-rand-mean-to-saxo-bank

[william.scherk]

You're an apostate, an escapee, no longer part of the herd.

Infinitely harder to escape from Gaza. No cultural tradition of individualism. Apostacy is punishable by death.

Are you sure about this, Wolf -- that apostasy in Gaza is punishable by death? Perhaps that isn't what you meant. If it is, maybe you can tell us about the last time a Gazan apostate was put to death (Gaza contains Christian Arabs, including evangelicals) ...

I kind of admire Greg's complete and permanent removal from the world of government, taxes, regulations, building codes and electrical networks. He pays no taxes in any form (quite a feat), no payroll taxes, disregards his property tax assessments, keeps all his money under the mattress, empties his sewage into the bowels of the earth direct, and so on. Admirable.

[Selene]

I kind of admire Greg's complete and permanent removal from the world of government, taxes, regulations, building codes and electrical networks. He pays no taxes in any form (quite a feat), no payroll taxes, disregards his property tax assessments, keeps all his money under the mattress, empties his sewage into the bowels of the earth direct, and so on. Admirable.

William:

Certainly you know that that is clearly not his position.

However, you do get a gold star for hyperbolic refutation.