US 2024 Election

[Peter]

From The Hill: Biden vs. Trump vs. RFK Jr. polls. Tie polling average based on 130 polls. Apr 27, 2024 . . . end quote

They compiled and averaged over ten major and a lot of "lesser" polls and it came up Trump 41.3, Biden 41.3, Kennedy 7.7 percent. Odd. I assumed it would take more away from Biden but what will the future hold?

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here we go.

It's starting to happen for real.

DON JR'S TRIGGERED: STEVE BANNON - A Look Inside the WarRoom (4/29/24)

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Aired 4/29/24

Steve Bannon went on Don Jrs show and killed it.

I know Steve talks to Trump Sr via phone and sometimes goes to Mar-a-Lago. But in terms of integration with the inside of Trump's world, Steve has mostly been on the outside looking in. Sure, he's been a major player in creating the MAGA movement from the ground up, but he hasn't been on the inside calling campaign shots and things like that. He's had second-level access up to now.

This show is the first sign that he is coming back into the Trump fold as a first-level insider.

And, as Don Jr said, this show is the first of many.

All they talked about was campaign strategy during the show.

Man, is this wonderful.

 

 

Now we have to hope that Steve does not get tempted to put out a lot of books about himself and what a badass he is. The anti-Trumpers tempted him with this the first go-around and that caused some friction with Trump. Then Steve kinda shit on himself in promoting candidates Trump did not want to promote and a big one lost (Roy Moore in Alabama).

I hope Steve has learned his lesson. He's a powerhouse and extreme force amplifier if he can keep his vanity in check.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

On 4/26/2024 at 3:14 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Kirsti Noem just shot herself in the foot.

She can no longer be a contender for Trump's VP not matter what happens.

Here's one reason why.

And it's 21 seconds long.

LOLOLOLOL...

       

 

I so hate it that this is happening to Kirsti, but funny is funny.

Dayaamm!

LOL...

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Yesterday, MTG presented a motion to vacate the Speakership of the House and her motion was voted down.

Even President Trump made a public statement before the vote that this was not the time.

 

For people who think this was a loss for MTG, think again.

She exposed Mike Johnson and the entire Republican party as squishes caving to Democrats because of all the moolah, seeing how the Dems voted as a block to save Mike Johnson's ass.

Now all these members of Congress are going to have to go home and deal with their hopping mad constituencies. Even the Dems are going to get an earful for voting to save a Republican.

 

I honestly think Trump liked what she did, but cannot say it without alienating many who support him during this time while he is on a roll and mid-campaign. He even started his statement saying how much he loved MTG and how she has a long career with him.

If you want to see a good discussion of this, check this video out:

MTG Blasts Speaker Johnson and Weak House Republicans

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Aired On: 5/9/2024

 

Now here's the deal.

The Dems will only vote en masse for a Republican if they can get a pound of flesh in return.

Here is part of that pound:

Johnson Vows to Protect Jack Smith Hours After Democrats Save Speakership

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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) wasted little time after 163 Democrats voted to save his speakership to announce he would not use Congress's constitutional power of the purse to stop special counsel Jack Smith's "lawfare" against Donald Trump.

 

A deeper meaning of all this is that Mike Johnson will have a hard time keeping his Speakership after November. It will now be easier to get a MAGA speaker in as Trump gets sworn in for a second term.

What MTG did worked. It weakened Mike Johnson and the RINOs for that upcoming fight. And she knew it going in, even as she swung for the rafters with everything she's got and knew the motion would fail.

Some battles are for winning, and other battles are for weakening the opponent, meaning both external and internal opponents. In chess, this is sacrificing a rook to capture a queen. Or better, since MTG is a queen, sacrificing the queen to get checkmate.

 

Michael

[Peter]

On 5/9/2024 at 6:36 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I honestly think Trump liked what she did, but cannot say it without alienating many who support him during this time while he is on a roll and mid-campaign. He even started his statement saying how much he loved MTG and how she has a long career with him.

From Fox News: . . . Biden topped Trump by razor-thin margins in the 2020 election in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to win the White House.

However, according to the new polls, with just under six months to go until Election Day, Trump leads Biden among registered voters 49%-42% in Arizona, 49%-39% in Georgia, 49%-42% in Michigan, 50%-38% in Nevada, and edges the president 47%-44% in Pennsylvania, with Biden narrowly on top in Wisconsin 47%-45% . . . . end quote

Not too shabby, so what can go wrong in six months? Don’t let it happen DJ Trump! Make America greater, safer, better off, and happier in 2024!

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

There goes the RINO dream of brokered convention shenanigans.

Nikki Haley comes out for Trump.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Joe Biden just has a Jeb Bush "Please clap" moment.

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Joe Biden on Saturday took a break from his weekend vacation in aware and traveled to New York to deliver the 2024 commencement address at the United States Military Academy, West Point.

Man, 2024 is slipping through this impostor's cheating and thieving fingers the old fashioned way. By election time, it's going to be so obvious nobody wants him, massive cheating can't take without an armed uprising. And, believe me, these fools only know how to fight from the shadows, not out in the open. So I don't think they will even try.

In other words, Biden is losing many of the cheaters on his side.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Trump addressed the Libertarian National Convention and, even with a rough crowd, it looks like he won over a huge number of them.

Here's the video.

President Trump Addresses the Libertarian National Convention (May 25)

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During his speech, Trump mentioned an article that gave a huge list of his pro-libertarian accomplishments as president. The article is The Libertarian Case for Donald J. Trump by Deroy Murdoch and published in The American Spectator on May 24, 2024.

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The Libertarian Party should nominate Trump for president of the United States. The reasons for doing so are as solid as the Hope Diamond.

From the article:

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Trump should ask for the Libertarian Party’s endorsement based, largely, on his presidential record. Reminding his audience about the measures that he implemented should make their freedom-loving hearts soar:

1. The $1.5 trillion Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was America’s largest infusion of tax relief in history. It sliced individual tax rates for all taxpayers and slashed the corporate tax rate from a punishing 35 percent to a globally competitive 21 percent. Immediate expensing of business equipment and other reductions fueled the best economy in 50 years. Black and Hispanic unemployment cratered to their historical nadirs. Female joblessness slid to levels unseen since the Eisenhower era. Black poverty collapsed to record lows. And, of all things, income inequality shrank, not by squeezing the rich but by lifting the poor. Between 2016 and 2019, before COVID-19 ruined everything, real median-household income grew 16.4 percent under Trump, up $9,664.
2. Trump cut red tape as never before. He promised to kill two old regulations for every new one. In fact, he scrapped eight old rules for each fresh one.
3. Trump restrained inflation. Prices were rising just 1.4 percent as he left office. This was a fraction of the “9 percent” inflation that lying Joe Biden repeatedly claims Trump handed him.
4. Likewise, before Biden’s record-breaking post-COVID spending spree, the 30-year mortgage rate as Trump departed was 2.77 percent versus 6.94 percent today.
5. Trump’s “Drill, baby, drill!” approach fostered energy independence. Low fuel and electricity prices helped moderate inflation and propel economic growth.
6. Trump rescued America from the economically crippling Paris global-warming treaty. Instead, he amplified fracking and liquefied natural gas to provide abundant power with half of coal’s carbon dioxide — for those who fret about such things.
7. Trump promoted parental rights and school choice and reauthorized and funded the Washington, D.C., school-voucher program.
8. Trump’s Education Department repealed the so-called Title IX guidance letter that turned mere on-campus sexual harassment accusations into de facto criminal convictions. Trump restored due process to the he said/she said minefield.
9. In a powerful blow for free speech, Trump required universities to respect the First Amendment, lest they lose their federal funds.
10. While Trump and Republicans never repealed Obamacare, they torpedoed that hideous law’s individual mandate, junked several of its taxes, and sandblasted a few of its rougher edges.
11. Medical price transparency empowered consumers to shop for health care services and compare costs, as is routine in every other industry. This competition should slow ballooning health care expenses.
12. Trump signed Right to Try: Terminally ill patients now can receive experimental and possibly life-saving treatments before those drugs win full FDA approval. When at death’s door, what do these suffering Americans have to lose?
13. Trump nominated some 200 constitutionalist federal judges, including a seldom-seen three Supreme Court justices in one presidential term.
14. Trump cancelled and defunded federal diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and other state-funded racism schemes.
15. The VA Mission Act, which Trump signed, lets military veterans receive federally funded medical care in the private sector, if delays prevent their treatment in VA hospitals.
16. Trump signed a measure that streamlined dismissals of federal bureaucrats who abuse America’s beloved veterans.
17. Rather than burden U.S. taxpayers with the full cost of NATO, Trump pressured America’s NATO partners to obey their promises and dedicate at least 2 percent of GDP to the alliance’s collective defense. Trump named and shamed NATO’s deadbeats until they coughed up $100 billion in fresh funds from European treasuries, rather than American wallets.
18. Trump brokered the Abraham Accords, namely, Israel’s four peace treaties with the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco. Add unprecedented solidarity with Jerusalem, the obliteration of the ISIS caliphate, and the diplomatic and military isolation of Iran, and the Middle East began to resemble a safe neighborhood.
19. Trump’s personal diplomacy with Kim Jong Un did not denuclearize the Korean Peninsula. However, Pyongyang’s underground atomic-bomb tests, which repeatedly rocked the Obama–Biden administration, stopped under Trump.
20. Trump paired his overall national-security posture — Peace Through Strength — with a strategy that one might call: “Speak loudly and carry a big stick.” What critics decried as chaos and bullying yielded for Trump and the American people the first presidency since Jimmy Carter’s in which the United States did not enter a new war.

In addition to this list, Trump committed to putting Libertarians in his cabinet and seeking their advice for real.

He promised to protect cryptocurrency, especially Bitcoin, in the US. He wants the US to lead in Bitcoin, not other countries. In addition, he promised that there would never be a US CBDC (central bank digital currency). 

Right from the start, he will pardon all J6 hostages rotting in jail right now.

He promised to commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht (Silk Road creator) right after he is sworn in.

There are a whole lot of other things Trump promised he would do. He asked for the party to nominate him for president, but barring that, he asked for the individual votes of the party's members.

He openly said they could either join forces with him and he will give libertarianism real power to get things done, or they can enjoy their traditional 3% sitting at home until the next go around.  

 

All in all, it was a terrific speech given in front of a mixed crowd. If you read the mainstream media, they will say the crowd shit all over Trump. If you watch the video of his speech, you will see that this is not true. This was not a MAGA crowd, but he got cheered a lot.

And if you want to commune with your inner schadenfreude, just watch the butt-hurt of the pundits when the concrete results of this rally slap them right upside their lying faces.

 

 

Let's see what happens, but I think Trump just gained a lot more libertarian supporters than the radicals would like. 

I am very interested to see what comes from the libertarian press in the next few days.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This is the day after.

Just look at the fear from the predator class. Unfortunately, Drudge has joined the ranks of the parasitic Predator Class.

How about the following Shakespearian phrase? "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

 

Granted, there was some booing in the front of the audience when Trump asked the Libertarian Party to endorse him and that is the video Drudge is talking about. But the following depiction at the 3% comment is all over X and the alt media.

Here's a hint:

 

 

 

And here is part of the video Drudge and the Predator Class don't want you to see. Trump told the crowd that it's time for the libertarians to win, time for libertarians to become winners. And they cheered him.

 

 

The true meaning of Trump's visit to the Libertarian National Convention was stated brilliantly by a guy named George when he described that particular throughline focusing on speech to reaction:

An excerpt from that analysis:

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Right as the booing was reaching its climax, he told them he needed their vote (of course they booed) but he told them he would appoint a Libertarian in his cabinet. Now, how hypocritical would it be for a Libertarian to not want that, that definitely shut some people up but not all.

Next, he went a step further by asking them to make him their Presidential nominee, but was that really a joke or just more high IQ play? After that he told them they couldn't win without him, now he has introduced the concept of winning in their minds. For that crowd winning was getting Ross Ulbricht freed, their posters had nothing to do with winning an election, the place was filled with "Free Ross" banners & chants. Trump must've recognized this before the convention and made it his big card.

After putting everything in place for the big ask he simply said, "If you vote for me, I will free Ross Ulbricht." And the crowd that had been booing him uprupted in cheers.

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The Art of the Deal, folks.  

 

 

Mike Lee weighed in.

 

Luke Rudkowski is a well-known libertarian and frequent guest on Tim Pool's show. Here is what he saw (as did I  ).

 

 

Go check out the media landscape. It is suddenly common to see libertarians saying they will vote for Trump mixed in with those who bash Trump. So bring your popcorn.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

btw - All the people behind these two X accounts represent a good chunk of formal libertarians.

For the TDS people in O-Land, reality is a bitch.

Behold and weep.

 

Michael

[tmj]

The Libertarian Party is a hoot , it looks like there was a resurgence in L engagement and activism after Ron Paul and a lot of what came in were more 'right winger' Ls. The party just got 'taken' over by the right wingers , the von Mises Caucus wrestled party leadership from the leftish contingent that mostly dominated the party for the last decades.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

19 hours ago, tmj said:

The party just got 'taken' over by the right wingers , the von Mises Caucus wrestled party leadership from the leftish contingent that mostly dominated the party for the last decades.

T,

Not so fast.

The LP just nominated a trainwreck named Chase Oliver as their Presidential candidate.

 

This, for me, just ensured that the majority of libertarians will vote for Trump.

X is full of people saying they are libertarians, they are disgusted with this, and they are going to vote for Trump.

I predict that the 3% Trump talked about is going to be less in the end.

 

 

Libertarian Party Chooses Openly Gay Former Democrat Chase Oliver as Its Nominee, Uses Victory Speech to Rail Against 'Genocide in Gaza' | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Kew

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An openly gay former Democrat who once supported Barack Obama, Oliver used his victory speech to rail against the U.S. "war machine."

 

A dude named Razorfist said Chase Oliver is not his name. It's what he does.

 

(Sorry... That one was bigger than me... I couldn't resist...  )

 

On a serious note, Oliver said he wants to court young Gaza supporters. And here is a typical X post bitching about him.

It's like Oliver has a plan to get as few votes as humanly possible.

 

I would have to check that stuff to be sure, but Sortor is giving Oliver's own posts as proof. Also, there are a lot of people not happy with choice of Oliver because they do not consider him to be a libertarian at root.

He also got elected after a long process with many rounds where he was the last man standing and the final vote was between him and not having a candidate.

 

In my opinion, the LP just laid an egg.

 

To me, this is good. Trump wants libertarians in senior positions in his administration. This way he can use libertarian as a personal criterium and not worry about what the LP wants. No party politicin' required. And he's taking a huge part of the libertarian votes, to boot.

As an aside, I wonder of the LP lefties made use of Dominion Voting Machines...

   

Michael

[tmj]

I said they were a hoot

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Let's have some more fun with the botched suicide of the Libertarian Party.

(I say botched because instead of killing itself off, it blew the shot and instead went way below 1% relevancy.  )

 

Here is a string of X posts that appeared on my timeline this morning. I should organize them, but, shit, there are too many of them for a quick and easy job.  

So random it is. Well, semi-random. And I culled a lot because repetition gets boring.

Enjoy.

 

Let's start with a good one.

 

 

Now the fun begins from the election of Chase Oliver as LP candidate for president.

And knowing me, you know I had to start with this one.  

 

The following? Ouch, ouch, ouch...  

 

LOL...

 

 

 

 

Now a few comments from MAGA insiders. Each illuminating a truth...

 

 

 

If you want more, just to go X and so a search. There is an avalanche of this stuff.

You won't find much congratulating the LP, though.  

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I have a personal comment on this LP fiasco.

One of the reasons I got into Ayn Rand (and libertarianism in general) was because I did not find fulfillment in the life and situation I was handed by nature. Rand offered a shining new vision I could choose. And freedom offered an open path to be able to work towards it without getting gummed because of bullies.

But there is another part of my mind that loves decency and respect and things like that just because they are good, a good I didn't have to learn since I feel inside myself by default.

 

What I saw at this LP Convention is not the kind of life I imagined as the good life for me.

For a simple example (out of many), I like being around people who take baths and I don't like being around people who stink. I did not smell the people there, but enough people I trust wrote about the stench that I believe it.

I don't have a space for drag queens to read in public to children as part of the good life I imagined. Ditto for mutilating the genitals of children before their brains have developed enough to exercise their volition as adults. So what do I do with a leader who promotes those things?

I get away from him, that's what.

 

I could go on, but using my cognitive before normative approach to analyzing something, I have to look at what exists before I judge it. And I see two fundamental things that need clear identification regardless of evaluation.

1. The ideology I want to practice has to have a correspondence between what I reason and imagine, and what can be verified in reality. So I have to identify if the ideas lead to the reality I want, if they integrated with the reality I want, a reality that I can observe.

2. What I saw at the LP Convention (at a distance, granted) did not correspond in reality to anything I want for my own life. What I saw just made me want it to be over.

 

I don't mind other people living and thinking in a different manner than I do. Not even the mess at the LP conference--I don't mind it if that is what some people want. But I don't have to look at that and accept it as something I value, as something I strive to get or to hold for myself.

And here is a hard truth. If the ideology I hold dear does not result in a reality I also strive to get for myself, something has to change. And what is that?

My mind? Do I just give up my values and forget about it all? Go along to get along and just keep repeating NIOF and Rand and things like that so I can belong to an informal society?

I can't do that.

And one thing is sure. From what I have identified, I cannot expect the ideology of libertarianism (or the Objectivism in practice that I have seen over the years) to produce the kind of social environment I want to live in.

Oh, it happens in isolated exceptions, but it doesn't happen large-scale.

Something more is needed.

 

I have found the social environment I like. It exists among MAGA people, even though I have disagreements with some of their thinking. They tend to be very good people as a whole, people you can live next to, people you can let take care of your kids when needed. All in a spirit of goodwill and without the icky stuff some people like to do in public--and like to do to children for that matter--in the name of freedom.

 

I know this. I am not going to give up the world view I received and adopted from Ayn Rand, nor am I going to give up my love of liberty. But I am going to supplement these things with something else that deals with family and other parts of the human experience, including competition and morale and so on. And parts that limit power, whether physical power (force) or mental power (covert persuasion), through ideas like checks and balances. Maybe education and revealing how this works.

Also, because of what I have lived and though my ongoing thinking, I have been developing a view of the human being as an individual but not just an individual. The individual human is also as a member of a species. It's not either-or, nor is it one with primacy over the other. It's both.

Neither ideology nor power can change that reality. We all come that way the moment we come into existence.

 

Anyway, all that's a long discussion for another day. More likely plural as in discussions.  

For now, I wish the LP well and I wish that Oliver dude well. But I am not that, nor do I want it for my life.

I have things to build and those people have way too much time to waste.

I'm sorry if this rant bothers some people, but I know for certain I am not alone. 

There is better. And better is where I am going--with those who see what I see.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here is the 15 minute interview Tim Pool did with President Trump right before Trump did his speech at the Libertarian National Convention.

Fantastic.

Tim Pool's interview with Donald J Trump

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Not sure how long before this gets Published by Bitchute as I have another in waiting, like 5 hours https://www.bitchute.com/video/xTKNwVPDMK8h/ <- waiting 5 hours

 

Notice that The Donald told Tim that he will look seriously into pardoning Julien Assange once he gets back in power.

He did not tell the LP Convention that about Assange, although he did say he would commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht on day one.

It's a good thing, too, he kept the Assange news for Tim seeing how, in the end, the LP nominated a dork.

 

As the saying goes, Trump won the Libertarian National Convention, but the LP nominated a leftie.

 

Michael

 

If anyone is interested, here is Tim's full podcast where Trump came in at the end. Kash Patel was his guest for about an hour and a half.

 

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

On 5/27/2024 at 9:03 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

For now, I wish the LP well and I wish that Oliver dude well. But I am not that, nor do I want it for my life.

I have things to build and those people have way too much time to waste.

I'm sorry if this rant bothers some people, but I know for certain I am not alone. 

There is better. And better is where I am going--with those who see what I see.

Maybe better is what some in the LP see, too.

If the following bears out, I like that and I want more.

Libertarian Party Chair Appears to Insinuate Support for Trump as Party Faces Backlash Over Nomination of a Radical Leftist | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

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The Libertarian Party is facing internal conflict and public scrutiny after the recent selection of a controversial nominee for the upcoming election, with tensions escalating as the Party Chair appears to be insinuating support for Trump.

 

Michael

[Peter]

Dust Rand Paul stillest consider himself a libertarian? Maybe send some bucks to Rand Paul?

[Peter]

I heard the "Trump Jury" has two lawyers on it. They can explain the nuances to the 10,000 charges against former President Trump. Any predictions? I prophesize a hung jury on all charges. 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

12 hours ago, Peter said:

Dust Rand Paul stillest consider himself a libertarian?

Peter,

The following video gives one of the most intelligent analyses of the libertarian and LP situation I have seen up to now.

Libertarians FLEE Party To Vote Trump 2024 After Nominating Far Left, Antifa Candidate

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In essence, the biggest criticism on this video of the LP is the constant purity contests. The LP is seen as an entity where people compete with each other over who has the most ideological purity and in what manners while not being concerned about how to do anything in lived reality.

The guests discussed the Mises people and mentioned Rand Paul. The Mises fans who are part of the LP are disassociating themselves from it and migrating to Trump in some manner or other.

One of the guests suggested the Mises people plant their flag in the Republican party and establish a Mises wing. And then they said something like, "Oh yeah. Rand Paul has actually been doing that with people like Thomas Massie, and his daddy did it, too."  

I predict the Freedom Caucus in the Republican Party will eventually be coopted by the Mises people and Trump's appearance was a kind of catalyst to making the wisdom of this strategy clear to many.

After all, the LP Convention got far more audience with Trump than they ever got before. And he offered to put libertarians in his administration. In essence, he taught the frustrated libertarians--by doing it with this offer and a few others--the first steps toward developing a transactional awareness for participating in a checks-and-balances government.

The purists loathe the idea of transaction as they stage their purity contests. (They loathe the idea of checks-and-balances, too, as I personally can attest from many discussions with purists.)

The libertarians who want to change the world--here and now--for real, and implement freedom--here and now--for real, are waking up to the need to develop transactional skills.

 

And Chase Oliver? Only the lefties in the LP are happy with that dude. The rest are leaving or staying home, at least for this election.

The guests also discussed something kinda funny on the leftie front. A lot of leftie Biden supporters who can't stand Biden anymore will be hard pressed at voting time on what to do. Most should stay home. But of those who vote, a good option to Biden will be Chase Oliver. In other words, the LP should get more leftie Democrat votes than conservative or libertarian votes.  

And that will help Trump (leaving aside the steal stuff).  

 

As to Rand Paul himself, I have not yet seen what he has to say about this LP mess.  

I would love to see him as Trump's VP, though.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

4 hours ago, Peter said:

I heard the "Trump Jury" has two lawyers on it. They can explain the nuances to the 10,000 charges against former President Trump. Any predictions? I prophesize a hung jury on all charges. 

Peter,

TaDaa!

We have a holdout.

 

After the ball was kicked to jury deliberations today, the jury sent two notes to Judge Gag Hushbucks asking for transcripts, instructions and so on.

Oppsie woopsie. No judgment today.

The walls aren't closing in on Trump today. 
Trump didn't become burnt toast today.
Trump isn't going to Rikers today.
And... (well, you know the drill...  )

In fact, this indicates there is one holdout (or more) pissing off the other jury members. We can call him, er..., Hung.

 

Can you see it? A TV series inspired by this trial. A pair of sassy court investigators: Hung and Stormy.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

My mind won't stop messing with this TV series title.

HSI Legal: Hung and Stormy, Investigators at Law

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

If anyone wants a nutshell view of the Stormy Daniels case in NY, here it is.

Trump is being prosecuted for the crime of covering up a crime. He is being charged with a cover-up, not with what is being covered up. Supposedly, the money Cohen paid to Stormy Daniels was Trump's cover-up.

The problem is there is no crime being covered up. There are three boneheaded allegations, but no proof of any crime.

And to make matters worse, Judge Gag Hushbucks told the jury they don't have to agree--to unanimously agree--on what crime was being covered up, just so long as they unanimously agree that some kind of crime was being covered up. Each juror can choose one from among the three claims mentioned and none of those three have to be crimes.

And, in fact and in law, since none of them are proven as crimes, they are not crimes.

Trump is being charged with covering up a non-crime.

And it doesn't matter what that non-crime is, just so long as the jurors think something non-crimeish was a crime. And they don't have to agree on that something.

Try to square that circle with the concept of justice.

 

Michael

[Peter]

2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Try to square that circle with the concept of justice.

It is after 2pm on the east coast and the jury is still out. I can imagine some of the jury trying to convince the rest of the jury, even if it is only one "holdout" to convict Trump of something . . . anything . . . come on guys, we gotta chance to get rid of him and we can't let that chance get by. I think history will be kind to President Trump and the one or more 'holdouts." Now if you were on the jury . . . .   

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, Peter said:

It is after 2pm on the east coast and the jury is still out.

Peter,

End of second court day and jury is still out.

 

 

btw - Someone in the fake news media command thought it a good idea to run a story claiming Trump said the N word during an Apprentice production. Or sumpin'.

I mean, the timing is just a coincidence, huh?

 

 

But now this video of early Biden talking on record is making the rounds.

LOL...

 

Michael