Coronavirus

[ThatGuy]

On 3/16/2020 at 1:26 PM, Jon Letendre said:

I will post if I see them again. There are more references to an April 10th return. Non-religious ones. There’s something about that date, 4/10/20.

Cross-posting this from the Donald Trump thread...

 

Re: 4/10/20, or 4,10,20, or 4-10-20:

While the numbers DO correspond to Trump's initials, "Q" just came out and warned anons to not try to predict dates, that "future validates past" doesn't mean to play Nostradamus...(and also warned against non-Q posts: "No outside comms", or theories that "take Q's name in vain..."

And yet, in the same drop containing his warning, he DOES mention the indictments and events that DID happen on 4/10/20. And you do have to have SOME sympathy for those pushing for a big Easter reveal, given the MANY 4-10-20 references in Q drops, that "Good Friday" falls on 4/10/20 this year, and Trump's earlier "aspiration" to have the country re-open by Easter. Q even deserves some of the blame for raising expectations with the 4/8 drop featuring a picture of a bible passage ("the armor of god") emphasising the 10, 11, and 12 at the start of each verse. (As in, April 10, 11, 12...Good Friday to Easter.)

https://qmap.pub/read/3914

I'm seeing a schism forming, as a result, between "true believers"* ("Trust the plan! Have faith! God prevails!") and "shills" (an attack on the integrity of anyone who asks for proof, or calls to "trust, but verify" They're told to "trust the plan". It's one thing to point out the need for patience in military matters, but it's another to ask for blind faith, let alone to be inactive...it's the civilian/soldier dichotomy).

I have to say, there's a bit of a "waiting for the Great Pumpkin" anxiety setting in...and like Sally, who gets laughed at for sitting with Linus in the pumpkin patch, and the Great Pumpkin never shows, then Linus rationalizes it by saying they weren't sincere enough...Sally's gonna get ticked off about missing out on trick-or-treating...)

(*"True believers": Whatever "Q" may be, and I do think there's something to it, a lot of the followers concern me in their lack of critical thing, or rationalization of every detail to be some kind of code, or in their religious blind faith...not to mention the "JFK JR is alive!" and "Trump is a time traveler!" crowd. But, that said, and to be fair...In contrast to "true believers" , there are those Q supporters who simply know and point out that you can't broadcast dates of attack to your enemy, and those who are saying it can't be rushed, that this has to be done right, dotting all the i's and crossing the t's, like an antibiotic finishing its course to get all the sickness out...but that will only go so far for those supporters who, after 3 or so years of Q-ness,  are out of a job and may be worried about paying their bills and feeding their families...And then there are those worried about losing their civil liberties, and the encroaching socialism, in the meantime.  How long can they "trust the plan" of a secret  they've never met? Again, that civilian/soldier dichotomy...)

I wanted to make a Galt "radio speech" comparison here, but Galt selectively chose his companions and co-conspirators, and wasn't acting on behalf of "the people"; it wasn't "WWG1WGA" with Galt's Gulch and the outside world...

Anyway, here's the Q Drop warning about predictions:

"Patriots Making Date Predictions Are Harming the Movement and Arming the MSM"

"Patriots: be cautious in your interpretations of info posted.
False expectations [& push] based on 'speculation' will only weaponize those who attack us [MSM].
Why does [MSM] expend resources [daily] attempting to discredit?
Do you provide the playbook to the enemy w: specific dates?
Logical thinking.
FISA INDICTMENTS = START (public_justice) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/start Future proves past [events unlock]."

and finishes with:

"Game theory. If you look you can see. Q"

https://qmap.pub/read/3929

 

[ThatGuy]

For a non-Q conspiracy:

Suspicions are rising that Fauci may have leaked information to the press, and was caught. In yesterday's briefing, a reporter asks Trump about a report saying that if the quarantine was lifted, the deaths would be greater, contradicting Trump's statements elsewhere. Trump says he hasn't seen that report, and that it must have been leaked to them. The reporter says no, it's being reported everywhere. Trump looks at the doctors, saying THEY are the ones who would know that info...they start squirming, and Fauci rushes to the stage, flustered...

Here's the article that in question:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-projections/new-u-s-projections-show-summer-spike-if-coronavirus-restrictions-lifted-nyt-idUSKCN21S1VO

"A DHS official confirmed the authenticity of the projections obtained by the New York Times. The official, who requested anonymity to discuss the matter, stressed that the figures were considered a “best guess.”

"A DHS representative did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

"A spokeswoman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) declined to comment on what she called 'alleged, leaked documents.'”

Here's the video, with analysis from a body-language reader:

 

[anthony]

44 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

I wanted to make a Galt "radio speech" comparison here, but Galt selectively chose his companions and co-conspirators, and wasn't acting on behalf of "the people"; it wasn't "WWG1WGA" with Galt's Gulch and the outside world...

 

 

Hey go right ahead, TG. Do the radio speech, adapted to the changed circumstances, on the premise that the Motor of the World has been sabotaged and stopped, by sacrificers not the strikers this time.

Heh, I'd like to read that.

[ThatGuy]

4 minutes ago, anthony said:

Hey go right ahead, TG. Do the radio speech, adapted to the changed circumstances, on the premise that the Motor of the World has been shut down, by sacrificers not the strikers this time.

Heh, I'd like to read that.

Hah...that sounds like a lot of work...too big a bite for me to chew...
It's been a while since I read it, but weren't there descriptions of people not involved in the strike taking actions out of desperation?
(and sounds like it would be straight-up civil war...)

[Brant Gaede]

The CCP virus death rate sounds like bullshit.

If you test positive for it then die of a heart attack that's listed as a virus cause of death?

--Brant

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

48 minutes ago, Brant Gaede said:

The CCP virus death rate sounds like bullshit.

If you test positive for it then die of a heart attack that's listed as a virus cause of death?

--Brant

 

Brant,

That's one of the mains things everyone is yelling about.

They're not even hiding it. Dr. Brix said openly that's what she is doing and encouraging.

I posted the following tweet in an earlier post, but this is so important, it bears posting again:

Watch the short video and hear her say it.

Right out of the horse's mouth.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

The scariest thing, to me, about the coronavirus situation is the ease and quickness with which the economy was damaged.

And that's due to the Internet.

It would have been inconceivable to get Americans and many people the world over to stop working pre-Internet. This has happened in small regions before, but never on the scale we now see.

Notice how easy it became to terrify so many so quickly.

There are people--I fear the wrong kind of people--who are noticing this and are fascinated by it.

There is no doubt in my mind--we will be hearing from them before too long...

Michael

[merjet]

3 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

If you test positive for it then die of a heart attack that's listed as a virus cause of death?

It's decided by the doctor who signs the death certificate. The doctor can code for multiple causes.

[ThatGuy]

3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The scariest thing, to me, about the coronavirus situation is the ease and quickness with which the economy was damaged.

And that's due to the Internet.

It would have been inconceivable to get Americans and many people the world over to stop working pre-Internet. This has happened in small regions before, but never on the scale we now see.

Notice how easy it became to terrify so many so quickly.

There are people--I fear the wrong kind of people--who are noticing this and are fascinated by it.

There is no doubt in my mind--we will be hearing from them before too long...

Michael

But Michael...the internet, thanks to Bill Gates, is what is SAVING us during this pandemic! ARI told me so!

[edit: sarcasm alert >on<]

[merjet]

22 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

But Michael...the internet, thanks to Bill Gates, is what is SAVING us during this pandemic! ARI told me so!

Bill Gates did not invent the internet. In fact, Microsoft's management failed to foresee its potential.

[Jules Troy]

Apparently some of those who are vulnerable/old/diabetics etc are getting symptoms and are dead 16 hours later.  Wouldn’t it make sense to isolate THOSE people and let the rest of the country(ies) run on a somewhat normal fashion?

[ThatGuy]

50 minutes ago, merjet said:

Bill Gates did not invent the internet. In fact, Microsoft's management failed to foresee its potential.

I didn't say he "invented" it. And the comment was sarcasm, based on a recent ARI article I posted about earlier in the week.
(And everybody already knows it was Al Gore. )

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, ThatGuy said:

But Michael...the internet, thanks to Bill Gates, is what is SAVING us during this pandemic! ARI told me so!

[edit: sarcasm alert >on<]

TG,

You're wrong. Al Gore invented the Internet. CNN told me so.

btw - Don't mind Merlin. He likes to do gotchas that are technically correct and totally beside the point.  

It's like the old Microsoft joke:

Quote

A helicopter with a pilot and a single passenger was flying around above Seattle when a malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's navigation and communications equipment.

Due to the darkness and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to get back to the airport.

The pilot saw a tall building with lights on and flew toward it, the pilot had the passenger draw a handwritten sign reading, "WHERE AM I?", and hold it up for the building's occupants to see.

People in the building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign, and held it in a building window.

Their sign said, "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER."

The pilot smiled, waved, looked at his map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely.

After they were on the ground, the passenger asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position.

The pilot responded, "I knew that had to be the Microsoft support building, they gave me a technically correct but entirely useless answer."

 

Michael

[anthony]

1 hour ago, Jules Troy said:

Apparently some of those who are vulnerable/old/diabetics etc are getting symptoms and are dead 16 hours later.  Wouldn’t it make sense to isolate THOSE people and let the rest of the country(ies) run on a somewhat normal fashion?

Exactly right, and for those people - and any others with fears - to voluntarily choose to self-quarantine, if they want, and can afford it. Sacrifice is the name of the game I keep saying.

[Brant Gaede]

4 hours ago, merjet said:

It's decided by the doctor who signs the death certificate. The doctor can code for multiple causes.

Who counts the votes?

--Brant

[Brant Gaede]

4 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

Apparently some of those who are vulnerable/old/diabetics etc are getting symptoms and are dead 16 hours later.  Wouldn’t it make sense to isolate THOSE people and let the rest of the country(ies) run on a somewhat normal fashion?

If they avoid virus exposure then your suggestion would result in herd immunity increasing their chances of avoiding a second wave exposure while returning to a normal social existence.

Not developing the herd immunity would likely compound the current problems for everybody.

The morbidly obese are the most at risk.

--Brant

[Brant Gaede]

4 hours ago, merjet said:

Bill Gates did not invent the internet. In fact, Microsoft's management failed to foresee its potential.

Microsoft was built on DOS which Bill, the genius, tried to sell to IBM for $100,000. IBM ("THINK") turned it down. Not surprising, IBM also came up with the stupid PC Jr flop.

Steve Jobs was a real genius. Bill Gates was real lucky and smart. Jeff Bezos is a genius. You can be smarter than a genius, btw, and not be a genius. That's my opinion of the brilliant Nathaniel Branden and the genius Ayn Rand.

(Nathaniel came closest to genius, and maybe it was genius, when he took sentence completion and created and extensively used a structured way of using it in psycotherapy, the sentence completion technique. As for his work on self esteem, I can only say that if I were doing grad work in psychology I would make it the subject of my Dissertation because I think he left the subject full of holes.)

This is not my opinion of mathematical geniuses. Qua math, if you're smarter than a math genius you're a greater genius, insofar as I can get my Liberal Arts brain around that.

--Brant

[merjet]

15 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Don't mind Merlin. He likes to do gotchas that are technically correct and totally beside the point.

Yeah, for example, it is "totally beside the point" that there can be multiple causes of death.  Multiple causes being possible is contrary to MSK's a priori assumption that there can be one and only one cause of death. His a priori assumption is super precious to him when there is one cause of death he wishes to diminish. His confirmation bias and willingness to evaluate-before-identify demand satisfaction. 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, merjet said:

... MSK's a priori assumption that there can be one and only one cause of death.

Merlin,

I have no idea what you are talking about.

This has nothing to do with what I have written or think.

That's something... just make up shit then try to do a gotcha on it. Even though we tangle at times, I know for a fact you are much better than that. Come on, now. Work with me... I know you can do it...

 

Since I have explained my view clearly over and over, I won't do it again here unless you are sincerely interested, which I doubt you are.

But I do have a suggestion. Try to understand correctly what someone is saying before doing a gotcha on them. It will save time.

A gotcha that is not a gotcha can't be used as a gotcha and be a gotcha.

 

Michael

[Jules Troy]

I gotcha!

I mean..I think I understand? Lol 

[Jules Troy]

18 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

If they avoid virus exposure then your suggestion would result in herd immunity increasing their chances of avoiding a second wave exposure while returning to a normal social existence.

Not developing the herd immunity would likely compound the current problems for everybody.

The morbidly obese are the most at risk.

--Brant

Exactly, get the vulnerable isolated, put em in a damn bubble if you have to.  Get the rest of the herd in a damn stadium if you have too, caughing on each other.  Herd immunity, over and done with in 2-4weeks.  Crisis over.  Oh wait..no more governments fucking over and taking complete control of the sheeple without a whisper of complaint...can’t have that.

[ThatGuy]

Hey, now...check this out:

"Trump has delivered his first public rebuke of Dr. Fauci by resharing a tweet that said 'Time to #FireFauci.'"

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1249487471630381056?s=20

[Ellen Stuttle]

7 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

Hey, now...check this out:

"Trump has delivered his first public rebuke of Dr. Fauci by resharing a tweet that said 'Time to #FireFauci.'"

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1249487471630381056?s=20

Check out the comments.  Not favorable to Trump.

Ellen

[merjet]

19 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

This has nothing to do with what I have written or think.

That's something... just make up shit

 

Nothing at all with what you have written?? Then you need to explain your scornful reaction to what you posted from Daily Caller and the included video with Dr. Birx speaking. Link. Daily Caller wrote: "Dr. Birx says that anyone who dies with coronavirus, regardless of any underlying health condition, is being counted as a death from coronavirus." 

 

Dr. Birx is pretty clear, and Daily Caller is truthful to what she said. She didn't advocate reporting two causes of death if there was a pre-existing condition. Neither did you or Daily Caller.

Why did you react the way you did? 

[anthony]

Every second, 1.8 humans die and 4.2 humans are born.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-death

>Lower respiratory infections remained the most deadly communicable disease causing 3.0 million deaths worldwide in 2016.<

Therefore, how many this year? 3.1 million? May be me, maybe you.

Let's get over ourselves. Humans are allowed to die, actually 'deserve' to die and it's not by a virus, it's our biological material.

The 'cause of death' is and will remain ... death.

This totalitarian upheaval is all brought upon us by way of secular New Age mystics. Who also are pathological narcissists.

Who subconsciously believe: 'Defeat' the coronavirus, and we're all gonna live forever.

(...and ever - and ever: 'Forever young, I wanna stay, forever young, do you really wanna live forever ...'