Ellen Stuttle

I’m having a peculiar reaction to some extra-strong dilating stuff that was used at the clinic Tuesday so pictures of the retinas could be taken. The stuff is being pokey slow wearing off. I can just barely discern text now but not well enough for posting anything complicated. Ellen

I'll second that. I’m currently working on an attempt to unsnarl the tangles of terminology and classification from the recent series. Stay tuned. I might get stuff posted later today or tomorrow. If not by then, not till Wednesday. Left eye injection day on Tuesday. Ellen

Michael, you wrote: "I would especially like to avoid having to write about things like your last comment in my quote above. I do not refer to mRNA packets as "little manufacturing plants." I refer to mRNA packets that have been absorbed and interacting with the body at specific points like in cells around capillaries as "little manufacturing plants." "Another thing. I have never said the jabs are injected into the bloodstream instead of muscles. I myself made a "curse of knowledge" assumption that injection into muscles was understood because I talked about the lymphatic system as the form of conveyance." I'm not being able to get quoting to work from one page to the next page, so I'll just refer you to your post Nov 1 at 6:30 for what I'm referring to with the first (your description is awfully fuzzy, granted) and your post of Nov 4 at 6:08 pm for the second. (See the first sentence of your "Step 2.") Your mind's eye picture is thoroughly a mess. I was trying to help, but I think you like the mess, so I shall leave it be. Ellen

Michael, I’m not sure if you saw my reply to you from Saturday am (linked to above). Maybe you haven’t had time to respond or you lack interest in the subject, especially with midterms looming. Fine, if so. However, while I’m about it, I want to correct another misunderstanding. You refer to the mRNA packets as "little manufacturing plants." The mRNA doesn’t manufacture anything. The ribosomes of the host's cells do the manufacturing. What the mRNA provides is instructions to the ribosomes on how to make the Covid virus's spike proteins. Thus the packets could be thought of as "little instruction manuals." The instruction manuals wouldn’t accomplish anything in the bloodstream, where there aren’t ribosomes to be instructed. So the trick was to get the mRNA into the cells. The molecules are too big and awkwardly shaped to pass through little interstices of the cell membrane. That's where Robert Malone's (unfortunately) ingenious idea came in. His idea was to encase the mRNA (or medicine that couldn’t slip through the membrane) in lipid packets, thus both compressing the shape and providing a smooth surface that would slip through into the cell. (The idea is similar to putting granular medicinal substances into a softgel capsule for ease of swallowing.) The idea was feasible (unfortunately in this case), although there was considerable development between Malone’s demonstrating that the technique could work and the current mRNA Jabs. Ellen

Michael, The mRNA Jabs, like vaccines, are injected into muscle not into the bloodstream. I don’t know what sort of general mental image you have of what molecules look like. Could you provide a link to a picture? Do you have an idea of what a cell looks like? A cell is a lot of (organized) molecules inside a membrane (itself composed of molecules). Please take a look at the images of 4 levels of protein organization at this link and tell me what they do to your mind's eye - drive it nuts? make sense? some of each? https://comis.med.uvm.edu/VIC/coursefiles/MD540/MD540-Protein_Organization_10400_574581210/Protein-org/Protein_Organization_print.html Ellen

TG, I don’t have time for reading the article now. Quick question. What does the study mean by "fraudulent" reporting - classifying as caused by Covid deaths that were actually from some other cause, or fabricating deaths entirely (or maybe a combination)? Ellen

Michael, My sighing is because I don’t know if I can help to give you a "picture" of what's going on with Covid viruses, spike proteins, mRNA Jabs. Maybe if I start here. You wrote (last paragraph of your post): "Oh, hell. I can't resist. In my mind's eye, I see two kinds of doggies running wild, the "packages of messenger RNA" through the lymph system, and the spike proteins they produce once they come into being and before they attach to COVID viruses." Looks like you don’t understand that Covid viruses come equipped with spike proteins as part of their structure (similarly to the normal human body coming equipped with hands as part of its structure). Spike proteins are what give the Corona virus its name - "corona," crown. Here's an NIH report with a transmission electron microscope image. Novel coronavirus structure reveals targets for vaccines and WWW.NIH.GOV Researchers produced a detailed picture of the part of SARS-CoV-2—the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19—that allows it to infect human cells. The fuzzy aura around the viruses is comprised of the spikes. As the article says, the spike proteins are what allow the virus to enter a host cell: "Like other coronaviruses, SARS-CoV-2 particles are spherical and have proteins called spikes protruding from their surface. These spikes latch onto human cells, then undergo a structural change that allows the viral membrane to fuse with the cell membrane. The viral genes can then enter the host cell to be copied, producing more viruses." The spike proteins are also what triggers the immune system of the host to start producing counteractive antibodies. The idea with the mRNA stuff was to inject into human cells part of the instruction code from the Covid virus, the part which directs production of the spike proteins. The immune system was then supposed to go on alert against the foreign protein and produce antibodies, therefore making the person pre-geared (battle equipment already at the ready) if the person was infected by Covid. But things didn’t proceed like they were supposed to. Instead of staying at the locus of the injection, the manufactured spike proteins went roaming here, there, and elsewhere in the body, fastening onto the body's cells (as in the vascular endothelium) and generally getting the immune system of the recipient messed up so that it started identifying one's own cells as foreign bodies to be attacked (as I said before, in effect producing an auto-immune disorder). So…. I hope that helps with clarifying. Ellen

"long covid": https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html As I suspected, more deception from the Jabbers. Ellen

But then it isn’t part of the virus. See my post to Michael. Ellen

Michael, sigh……. Right, the spike proteins from the mRNA injections DO run around the body like a dog off the leash (metaphorically speaking). The spike protein of a corona virus DOES NOT do that. It's part of the virus, not detached. SL spoke of dangers from spike proteins, whether from the injections or from the virus. There isn’t the danger with spike proteins from the virus. All those do is give the virus entry into a cell. Ellen

Where is the idea of "long covid… and spike proteins in general" coming from? Is that some sort of new attempted defense by Jabbers? The spike protein of a corona virus is part of the virus. It doesn’t roam around the body like a dog off the leash causing mischief here and there. Ellen

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It’s going to be very difficult to find out. Ellen

Michael (and Marc), The figure I was actually wondering about there in speaking of "the number of hospitalizations" is the total number, including hospitalizations either correctly or incorrectly diagnosed as Covid cases which didn’t result in death. I.e., how many people lived to tell of the hospitalizations? What percentage of hospitalizations resulted in death? Ellen

"Not safe from contracting Covid, safe from any adverse consequences." And you wouldn’t be safe from contracting Covid, or at any less risk from contracting Covid, if you did get "the Vax." (I know that you know that, just emphasizing that all the Jabs do for a person is put the person at risk of adverse reactions. No benefit conferred.) Ellen

You're right about the Nazis keeping excellent records. However, from what I find in studying the CDC material on figures, record-keeping by US hospitals and clinics during the Covid brouhaha has been disorganized and the CDC themselves don’t have good estimates of the number of hospitalizations. There does have to be a paper trail with CARES and insurance payments, but tracking the trail won’t be easy. Ellen

I wonder what the total number is of those who died in hospitals because of the Remdesivir->ventilator "treatment." I'm hoping that Dr. Ardis (I think that's his name), the chiropractor who's going after the CDC, will manage to get an accurate count. Ellen

Duh on my part - I was missing that the boosters were the subject of the Tweet, not the initial Jabs. The linked-to correspondence file dates from July 13, 2021, to August 5, 2021. Not Redfield’s watch. (Redfield was Trump's pick, which is why I was worried.) Ellen

Weird. I'm getting blank space where the Tweet was in your post, but the Tweet shows in the Quote box (so far). (Now it's showing in your post.) Here's the text in case: Was it under Redfield's Directorate that the pressuring occurred? Walensky took over January 20, 2021, and was only appointed as Biden's pick on December 9, 2020. The Pfizer Jabs were EUAed on December 11, 2020, and the Moderna on December 18, 2020. The Janssen (which isn’t mRNA) wasn’t EUAed until February 27, 2021. I think it was then made unavailable for awhile because of side-effect problems. On May 5, 2022, it was given limited authorization: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/janssen-covid-19-vaccine Ellen

I'm exploring the 2020 "excess deaths" - slowly. Lots of Fall chores to tend to and not much time to spare for computer work. Plus, examining details of the figures makes my glitchy eyes go nutsy in short order. But…I'm progressing. Repeating a segment of the CDC Summary for 2020 which William quoted: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db427.htm "In 2020, a total of 3,383,729 resident deaths were registered in the United States—528,891 more deaths than in 2019. The number of deaths for which COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death was 350,831 (10.4% of the total number of deaths in 2020)." In my post 10/25/22, I wrote: Lifting that from the Quote box: "Two…What happened to the flu deaths in 2020? Shift the supposed excess deaths from Covid-19 so they fill in the blank of the missing flu deaths and there's hardly any "excess" provided by Covid." The statement isn’t true. Although flu deaths for 2020 are missing - the CDC didn’t even estimate them because of low reportage - the maximum estimate over the previous decade was about 52,000. * This would have left about 300,000 supposedly from Covid. As I said yesterday, (along with over-reportage - that is, classifying as "Covid" deaths of people who merely had a positive PCR) a high percentage of those deaths resulted from medical malfeasance. Getting figures would be difficult. One would have to sift through hospital records and whatever records could be obtained of non-hospitalization deaths. Regarding the other about 175,000 deaths increase from 2019, drug overdose deaths increased a lot (I saw on some quick skimming). I'll look more into that. I suggested in my 10/25/22 post: "Maybe simply proportionally with population increase." Not according to official population increase statistics, but what I had in mind was a suspicion about UNofficial population increase - illegal immigrants. I don’t know what estimates are of the number of illegals. Ellen *

I'm feeling nagged at (internally) by some things I didn’t say (things I left out) in a post up the page, so I'm repeating to add further remarks. The first sentence just pertains to William's referencing the "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy in regard to the rash of sudden-cardiac-arrest deaths in persons who are "up on" their Jabs. The issues bothering me pertain to the quoted passage from the CDC. Regarding the CDC's statement that "The number of deaths for which COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death was 350,831 (10.4% of the total number of deaths in 2020)," I commented that "many of those deaths were listed as due to Covid-19 simply because of a positive PCR." I want to add that a substantial percentage of the people who died in hospitals "from Covid" likely died not because of infection but because of the "treatment" protocol. (I can only make an estimate of the percentage at this time. I think it’s high - upwards of 80% or so.) Furthermore, probably a very high percentage of the people who genuinely had Covid (not flu or some other condition diagnosed as Covid) would have been ok in a few days if they'd immediately started on Ivermectin, or maybe Hydroxychloroquine. Thus, the Covid-19 death count, along with being overstated, includes a high percentage of deaths resultant from medical malfeasance, not from the disease as such. I also want to say some things about the "excess deaths" issue, but I'll get back to that later. Ellen

Nothing-to-see-here ploy at the ready. Calling attention to this from the CDC report William posted: "In 2020, a total of 3,383,729 resident deaths were registered in the United States—528,891 more deaths than in 2019. The number of deaths for which COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death was 350,831 (10.4% of the total number of deaths in 2020)." That cleverly gives the impression that the supposed 350,831 Covid-19 deaths comprise about 3/5 of the excess deaths. But….for one thing, many of those deaths were listed as due to Covid-19 simply because of a positive PCR. Two…What happened to the flu deaths in 2020? Shift the supposed excess deaths from Covid-19 so they fill in the blank of the missing flu deaths and there's hardly any "excess" provided by Covid. So where do the actual excess deaths come from? EDIT: Not from the Jabs. Those weren’t authorized until December 2020. Maybe simply proportionally with population increase. Ellen

TG, looks like you, too, are presuming Covid from the statement that Walensky "tested positive." Again, a positive test doesn’t demonstrate that a person has Covid. There are many, many false positives (if we’re talking about the PCR). Has there been any further statement to the effect that Walensky does have Covid? I'm not challenging that she was wrong in saying that "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus and don’t get sick." Both parts of that are false. But it isn’t clear simply from her testing positive that she actually has the virus. Ellen

Peter is a cognitive basket case telling people with functional arms and legs that they're disabled. A farce. However, he has a granddaughter and I have hoped that enough glimmers might get through, he'd exercise caution about recommending Jabs for her. Futile hope, looks like. Ellen

Let me guess: You actually watch and like that woman and consider her an expositor of "the science" which you "follow" - one of the chief persons for whom I hope "Nuremberg Take Two" is on the way. Ellen PS: As to her being OK: (1) Remember that testing positive doesn’t demonstrate that a person has Covid - many, many false positives. (2) If she develops symptoms, I wouldn’t be surprised if - clandestinely- she started taking Ivermectin pronto.

And m-a-y-b-e in a third corollary: Don’t really get "vaxxed." Just advise the herd to do so. Ellen PS: I'm not indicating that I think that the Jabs are effective. I think that they’re useless as either preventative or ameliorative. And I think that Walensky thinks the same. However, she knows that the Jabs are dangerous.