A FUN QUESTION

[Victor Pross]

Anybody, please, feel free to answer the question below...for fun. Answer it from the heart or head.

If there is anyone, past or present, that you would want to be for a day, who would it be and why?

Go ahead, don't be shy. Step right up.

[Rich Engle]

No way, man. One minute you're all feeling cool because you pick some mega-human you admire, and the next, you get there and realize they have a yeast problem, or 'rhoids, or an impacted wisdom tooth.

I'm staying pat. It's annoying and slightly underpowered at times, but I know how to work on it when it screws up...

[Victor Pross]

That's okay, no problem. Who was the Mega-human?

[Rich Engle]

Dunno, Victor, dunno.

Maybe the legendary JOHN HOLMES

I mean, do you know how many pornos they can shoot in a day? You did say just one day....

Edited October 4, 2006 by Rich Engle

[CNA]

LMAO, Rich, you're too much and you're the one that has turned into the Zen Love Master with your Dagny!! John Holmes the mega human. I would say mega in other ways.....YIKES.

[Victor Pross]

Rich,

JOHN HOLMES, huh? I'm thinking I want to be any woman right now...anyone!! :hyper: YEAH, BABY!!

Edited October 5, 2006 by Victor Pross

[Chris Grieb]

Hey Guys; Can't we do better than John Holmes. He had a horrible death. I don't think he's going to be long remembered. I think I would have liked to have been in Edison's lab in East Orange, NJ any time he was working.

[Rich Engle]

Edison's EO NJ Lab...

Funny you mention that. I toured it when I was in grade school. FANTASTIC. I still have some memorabilia from there...

In any event, I was thinking of the other legendary John Holmes. And, to answer the horrible death question, it doesn't matter in either event; it would be just one day. Victor didn't put any limits on alive/dead.

I was only thinking of Holmes because of a shopping trip. Part of maintaining a proper Zen Love Nest involves research; this is key. We have two ZLN's in our place, because there are two couples (my two roomates, then my other half being a regular resident, though she doesn't reside there). Anyway, the way we do it is the two males go on recon, and check out various establishments. Ambience, Prisilla's, and of course the PORNO STORE, which is around the corner. Purpose is to establish that the enviros are safe, then we can bring our women in with us later for more shopping fun.

During one of these sorties, we found a friendly clerk, who we had fun with; asking him to explain various products that we didn't want to buy, nor understood for that matter. Basic fun-having. We asked him to open a box that involves some kind of bakery or casting product whereby one can replicate, er, anatomy parts of famous film stars (rightio...). During this process, we discovered that a product box included an extremely cheesey picture labelled "Legendary John Holmes" (note the absence of "The" in the phrase). Anyway, we talked him into giving it to us gratis, and repackaging the, er, "product." Is that wrong? I consider it a promotional item, given to us by the local representative. We put it on the door to our compound.

I think Victor is looking for something more serious than this in his thread topic, and I apologize. However, decisions only get worse when one frets over them, so I am staying with Legendary John Holmes.

Qualifier: It would have to be during his peak. He had a terrible fall into addiction, I am only interested in when he broke out of the gate.

Perhaps reviewing this information will help my readers understand my decision:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertai...rs/john-holmes/

Extract:

In a 1989 Rolling Stone article, ex-wife Sharon recalled John's self-amazement when he measured his penis in 1968: "It goes from five inches all the way to ten. Ten inches long! Four inches around!" That night, to Sharon's dismay, he revealed his intention to become a porn actor.

He became the all-time world's greatest. During his career, Holmes starred in 3,000 films and fucked hundreds of porn actresses, including Seka, Linda Lovelace, Marilyn Chambers, and Cicciolina.

Again, Victor: you did say one day.

rde

Carpe Diem

[Judith]

I think Victor is looking for something more serious than this in his thread topic, and I apologize. However, decisions only get worse when one frets over them, so I am staying with Legendary John Holmes.

Jeez, Rich. Here I was pondering things like, "Well if I were Adolph Hitler on the brink of WWII, I could commit suicide...." And I keep reading and see Legendary John Holmes.:devil:

Judith

[Danneskjold]

Joke Answers: Hugh Hefner (in his prime), Chuck Norris, Babe Ruth...and maybe Dimaggio while he was married to Marilyn Monroe.

Real Answer: Well, this almost forces you to choose someone who was a bad person because it makes you want to make it so you could undo whatever they did. In that case, I would have be Marx and off myself before I could come up with a theory that wrought destruction and poverty wherever it was applied. If I was to choose someone who I would geniunly enjoy being for a day I really don't know who I would choose. My first choices are all baseball players because that is where my passion lies. So maybe Jorge Posada or Yogi Berra. If I was to choose a politician I'd say Reagan, a man who I can genuinly respect.

[Kat]

[BAMF]

If I was Ronald Reagan, I would have written in my will that I didn't want some stupid, drawn-out funeral procession that would be aired on TV. For Christ's sake... :sick:

If I could be anyone I would be Thomas Jefferson or Marilyn Manson.

[sjw]

Hey Guys; Can't we do better than John Holmes. He had a horrible death. I don't think he's going to be long remembered. I think I would have liked to have been in Edison's lab in East Orange, NJ any time he was working.

I agree. Except that it's not "can't we do better" it's more like "what an absolutely deranged answer." Rich, that is just sick.

I wouldn't want to be anyone else for a day, but if I could know the thoughts and feelings of someone on a given day, then: Tesla, the day he left Edison for going back on a promise and went on to power the world with his AC motor, or the day they turned on the Niagra Falls generator many years after he dreamed of tapping its powers; or Newton, the day he invented calculus; or Aristotle, when he realized he could identify and systematize the laws of logic.

Shayne

[Rich Engle]

I agree. Except that it's not "can't we do better" it's more like "what an absolutely deranged answer." Rich, that is just sick

Ah, yes, I know, I know, decorum and all. Perhaps I have damaged delicate sensibilities *sob*. I would so like to assure you that, in the future, I will take heed and try to be appropriately somber and serious. But alas, it will never be! Derangement will forever sit proudly at the top of my toolbox! Yes!

But if you're going to do something for a day, why not consider high-profile, professional sport-fucking-for-pay? It's just a day. I love Tesla and all, but hey, I'm talking about getting the old groove on, here...

Yes, though, a good way to say it-- what they are experiencing inside. See? I agreed with something you said. Yes!

rde

"Big Bottom, Big Bottom/Talk about mud flaps/my girl's got 'em" -Spinal Tap "Big Bottom"

[Ross Barlow]

Who would I like to be for a day? Reinhold Messner.

Reinhold Messner was one of the greatest alpinists in the history of mountain climbing and a personal inspiration to me. He has had some fine days in the mountains that would be worth experiencing.

He trained like an Olympic athlete who goes for nothing but the gold. He was the first person to climb Mt. Everest completely alone and without bottled oxygen, and he was first to climb all 14 of the world’s highest mountains (the 14 that are above 8,000 meters) and never used oxygen. His joy in climbing is obvious from his very well written books.

As a teenager he had gained the respect of many of the better climbers in the Alps for his bold ascents, usually done in an impressive new style. They were done quicker, often as first ascents and often solo.

In 1969 he made an ascent of the treacherous North Face of Les Droites. The first ascent team on this face had taken 5 days, carefully moving up and avoiding the dangers of falling rock, ice and avalanches. Messner started early while the rock and ice were frozen tight, went alone straight up the face and was back in Chamonix for lunch.

In 1975 he and his partner, Peter Habeler, did the North Face of the Eiger in a new record of 10 hours – as a training climb! They then brought this fast-and-light alpine-style climbing to the Himalayan giants, climbing Gasherbrum (aka, Hidden Peak) in a three-day push from base. In 1978 these two were the first to ever climb Everest without oxygen.

I was at the height of my earliest climbing days during these years, and the continually incoming reports of such exploits just spurred me onward and upward. These were heady days!

In 1980 Messner did his Everest solo without oxygen in only a few days from base to summit and back. This was audacious – some would say mad – but I understand the aspiration. These days, he still climbs some outrageous things, but he also has branched out to other types of expeditions. He skied across Antarctica and recently walked across the Gobi Desert. The poet Robert Service wrote of this kind of individual:

“There's a race of men that don't fit in,

A race that can't stay still;

So they break the hearts of kith and kin,

And they roam the world at will.

They range the field and they rove the flood,

And they climb the mountain's crest;

Theirs is the curse of the gypsy blood,

And they don't know how to rest.”

I do not know which particular day in the life of Reinhold Messner I would pick, as there were so many “peak” moments. It would be one of those solo climbs when the struggle upward is rigorous and the outcome is enough of a question mark; when one’s consciousness is focused intently on each step and move; when one’s hopes, dreams, capabilities and fears are analyzed without illusions; and it would be a day when the horizons were clear and cloudless on all sides, and when one had time to pause on the summit and gaze at everything below one’s feet like a god viewing his creation.

-Ross Barlow.

[sjw]

Ah, yes, I know, I know, decorum and all. Perhaps I have damaged delicate sensibilities *sob*. I would so like to assure you that, in the future, I will take heed and try to be appropriately somber and serious. But alas, it will never be! Derangement will forever sit proudly at the top of my toolbox! Yes!

That you revel in trash is not something to brag about. And that's not mentioning how low you've got to be to mock someone for not respecting trash.

Shayne

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Rich,

Were you mocking anybody or just horsing around?

Michael

[gary williams]

Ah, yes, I know, I know, decorum and all. Perhaps I have damaged delicate sensibilities *sob*. I would so like to assure you that, in the future, I will take heed and try to be appropriately somber and serious. But alas, it will never be! Derangement will forever sit proudly at the top of my toolbox! Yes!

That you revel in trash is not something to brag about. And that's not mentioning how low you've got to be to mock someone for not respecting trash.

Shayne

Note: Yes, I'm back.

Anyone...and I mean anyone, who has had a private conversation with me and has had a PUBLIC conversation here on any subject which contradicts our private conversations should be warned. I no longer tolerate hypocrites, liars, or any sort of ol' fashioned folk full of bullshit. State the truth or face the piper.

Remember, I keep every single email I get.

Tally Ho......

sjw,

Define "Trash."

gw

[Ross Barlow]

In post #15 above in this thread, I said I would like to be Reinhold Messner for a day.

Messner is featured in the *National Geographic* in the November 2006 issue. Excellent article that captures the true greatness of the man. I highly recommend it.

-Ross Barlow.

[Chris Grieb]

Ross; Thank you! What a great choice. Sounds like an inspiring human being.

[Rich Engle]

MSK,

I wasn't mocking anybody. sjw just didn't like my choice of the legendary John Holmes.

I guess I was supposed to get all serious, and at the time, I didn't. Therefore, I am about "trash."

Well, uh, yeah, sometimes I am!

God only knows what would've happened if I said James Joyce, or someone else on the non-approved list!

I'm staying with John Holmes!

Hey, Kori said Marilyn freaking Manson. It can always be worse...I'll see to it personally!

rde

Will never be as legendary, but I try at least once a week.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Rich,

For the record, I was pretty sure you weren't mocking anybody. When you horse around, I get a chuckle and it brightens my day.

I just wrote an article on the difference between mocking and horsing around (basically thoughts provoked by Mozart was a Red by Rothbard). I won't say much now since I say a lot in the article.

I'm doing a lot of revising because I don't want any of the horsing around I describe to come off as mocking, nor any of the mocking I describe to come off as horsing around.

It has not been as easy as I thought and it has been an interesting exercise so far.

One thing has become clear to me as a personal value in writing this. I do not want my own inner world to include much mocking. I don't like where that comes from in my soul. I am not happy with the world and I am not happy with myself when I engage in a whole lot of mocking. And I don't like what it does to the subject, either. A target of mocking usually gets really angry, defensive and spiteful or it hurts his feelings.

(I am not against mocking per se. I just want to be clear that I use it when I want to hurt somebody and I don't want to run from the reality of knowing that. Those I have mocked can be sure that I have wished bad things for them.)

But I do want a lot of humor in my life. One of the things I like about quirky observations is the immense variety of subjects that can bring a smile to my face. Life is so varied with all kinds of incredible things. All you have to do is just notice them and the smile comes automatically. It's like being in a hugely rich grove of all kinds of trees. All you have to do to eat is go to a tree and pluck.

(Be careful with that last observation if your head is in John Holmes mode, though... )

Michael

[Rich Engle]

"If you want the pretty polly, you just pluck it from a tree!" (Clockwork Orange, not for sure as to how accurate)

Mocking is generally a crude, ineffective thing. Now, lampooning, that requires a little more and it often shows promise.

I think the primary tool of the angry intellectual is, without doubt, innuendo... The dulcet tone, but a tone nonetheless.

The whole propriety/seriousness thing, though... you know I have no choice when I see this! It's like handing a half-conscious mouse to a hungry cat! There is no stopping.

And then the primary strike, which is just for yucks. Yes, it's true my roomate and I were at the porno store around the corner from our apartment shopping for our women, and it is in fact true that we talked the friendly shopkeeper into giving us a picture of John Holmes, and, worse yet, it's true that we have it on the entrance door to the two Zen Love Nests. Yes!! But clearly what not is true, to anyone other than one that fell like a melonhead off a turnip truck, is that I was serious about being John Holmes for a day.

Well, wait a minute.... you know, I still can't say that! It would depend what day, who was on the shooting schedule.... hmmm...

Edited November 13, 2006 by Rich Engle

[CNA]

Trust me, there is no one else that I would want to be other than MYSELF. I'm very happy with my life. I am happy with myself. I achieved what I set out for myself and I am enjoying what it is I've found. I am most definitely PROUD of my achievements and accomplishments, some being tremendous achievements and accomplishments, the obstacles I had to overcome to get to where I am at today. It has brought me the ultimate happiness. With what I know, with what I've come to and had to go through in regards to my convictions that I hold very dear, there is no one else that I would want to be, even for a day, other than ME.

Angie

[Fran]

Leonardo da Vinci. I am in awe of his genius.

It would also be extremely interesting to experience being a man for a day. Although Da Vinci is said to have been gay - so maybe I wouldn't get the sexual experience that I was after. No disrespect intended of gays. I'd quite like to see the world through a male brain and have the male's balance of hormones.

If we're talking purely fictional characters here, I'd like to be Doctor Who. I'd use the TARDIS (it's a time and space machine for those who don't know), to go back in time and give a copy of Ayn Rand's works to Aristotle. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if his works on ethics had been a bit more robust... No criticism of Aristotle.

It'd be fantastic - like playing God and re-writing history. And think of all the millions of lives that would be saved...