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Two articles of impeachment were just passed on partisan lines by the House Judiciary Committee.

Now they will go to the floor.

As a Trump supporter, I don't feel any threat at all.

I feel a kinda cringe, the kind when you see a loudmouthed pipsqueak make a charge against a gigantic steamroller. These Dems are poking a lion with a really short stick.

(The lion being American voters.)

When I look to the future of the Dems, I want to duck and skedaddle for them.

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Michael

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On 12/8/2019 at 10:37 AM, Peter said:

I agree that it is correct to have backlash against the polarized left wing media but my fear is that “unknown sources” who suggest conspiracies can have a worrisome effect on anyone who does not fact check and use reason.

For some real snark that Wikipedia just can't beat ... https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/QAnon

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3 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Here's a quote from that article:

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... a QAnon book called QAnon: An Invitation to the Great Awakening was written by a number of anonymous authors and reached number goddamn 2 on Amazon's algorithmically generated “hot new releases” and best-sellers lists.

Number goddamn 2?

How rational.

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But wait!

There's more!

Because of that oh-so rational "number goddamn 2" on the oh-so rational Rational Wiki dot Org, I got intrigued and bought a copy. Kindle is having a sale on it for a couple of bucks, so I just now got it.

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Hot dayaamm!

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Michael

 

EDIT: I just read that Rational Wiki article a little more carefully. The people who contributed to that sound batshit irrationally scared as all rational hell. :)  

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2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Man, is Jake Tapper scared.

The tell is that he keeps interrupting Rand Paul with quacking.

Rand Paul is taking smart pills. How could he put up with that guy without losing his cool? And how can you interview someone and then not let them talk? What disgusting behavior. I don't think Rand Paul could get the nomination in 2024 but I will not lightly say, he could be a distinguished vice president. I wonder if it will be Pence, and two Hispanic guys seeking the nomination in 2024? You know Marco and Ted something or other? Get back into the news guys. 

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Is it ever too soon in politics? Is it too soon to have a thread titled 2024? Maybe, so I will put this on El Presidente’s thread. Who could best run the country to make us freer, safer and more prosperous and carry on the Donald Trump revolution? What could Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Mike Pence say to win the 2024 nomination? Some suggestions.

About a Ronald Reagan speech. At the end of World War II, Europe was divided. No nation was more negatively affected than Germany – a free, democratic republic in the west, but the east under authoritarian, Communist control, ruled by the Soviet Union. When President Reagan took office, he committed not only to bringing freedom to Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary and all the other nations under Soviet domination, but to bring down the entire “Evil Empire” Soviet system. While Franklin D. Roosevelt led America to victory in World War II and Lincoln gets the credit for holding America together in the War Between the States, it is Reagan whose strategies won the 40-year-long Cold War. There is no more memorable and symbolic moment of his influence than his June 12, 1987 speech at the Berlin Wall, the most visible symbol of the Soviet “Iron Curtain.” There, he challenged Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev to bring down the concrete and barbed-wire barrier that barred East Germans from even being able to visit West Berlin.

Ronald Reagan's Remarks at the Brandenburg Gate. We believe that freedom and security go together, that the advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace. There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!

Ronald Reagan's "Space Shuttle Challenger" Address. On January 28, 1986, millions of Americans witnessed the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger just 73 seconds after it lifted off from Kennedy Space Center. Just a few hours after the disaster, President Reagan spoke to the nation: We’ve grown used to wonders in this century. It’s hard to dazzle us. But for 25 years the United States space program has been doing just that. We’ve grown used to the idea of space, and perhaps we forget that we’ve only just begun. We’re still pioneers. They, the members of the Challenger crew, were pioneers. The future doesn’t belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we’ll continue to follow them. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye … And ‘slipped the surly bonds of earth’ to ‘touch the face of God.’

President John F. Kennedy. But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills. Because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept – one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win.

FDR after Pearl Harbor. Yesterday, December 7, 1941a date which will live in infamythe United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. Always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this, the American people in their righteous might will win – through to absolute victory. We will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us. With confidence in our armed forces – with the unbounding determination of our people – we will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us God!

Theodore Roosevelt, Five Minutes After Being Shot. Fiery orator, dramatic speaker Theodore Roosevelt was shot by anarchist John Schrank as the president rose to give an address in Milwaukee on October, 14, 1912. Schrank had stalked the Roosevelt for thousands of miles before getting a clear shot at him – and was immediately arrested. He spent the rest of his life in a mental institution. Roosevelt, on the other hand, propelled America into world power status and ended up on Mount Rushmore with Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. Friends, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible. I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose. But fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet - there is where the bullet went through - and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so that I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best. And now, friends, I shall have to cut short much of that speech that I meant to give you, but I want to touch on just two or three points. In the first place, we do not regard as essential the way in which a man worships his God or as being affected by where he was born. We regard it as a matter of spirit and purpose. Now, friends, in the same way I want our people to stand by one another without regard to differences or class or occupation. I ask you to look at our declaration and hear and read our platform about social and industrial justice. And now, friends, I want to take advantage of this incident to say a word of solemn warning to my fellow countrymen. First of all, I am telling you the literal truth when I say that my concern is for many other things. It is not in the least for my own life. I want you to understand that no man has had a happier life than I have led; a happier life in every way. I am in this cause with my whole heart and soul. What I care for is my country.

President Abraham Lincoln. With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

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For the record, I'm kinda glad impeachment is happening today. It has about 0% chance of removing President Trump (being DOA when it gets to the Senate), but it has two strong advantages for the Trump side.

1. The boy who cried wolf. That's been the Dems and anti-Trumpers all up to now (over three year, day in and day out). Granted, this has juiced up the far left and the more zealous anti-Trumpers, but it has caused the Trump supporters and many moderates, and even some Dems, to get pissed, and it has caused fatigue and irritation in many others. How many times can you come out to see the wolf, see there is no wolf, and hear the warning cry the next day and come out to see the nonexistent wolf again before you get irritated? Over three years is a lot.

But with formal impeachment, finally there is a wolf. Too bad it's a three-legged chihuahua with no teeth. At least it yaps. :) This should translate into a massive pro-Trump and pro-Republican voter turnout in 2020. Nobody wants to go through all the crap the Dems have been doing again.

2. This one is almost the most important. President Trump has been gradually cleaning up the swamp and doing such a huge amount of great administrative work, he has literally changed the American environment for the better, especially the economy. But, he has a weak side where he likes to give certain people (ones who oppose him) the benefit of the doubt, or at least, give them professional respect so he can make deals with them. He now sees where that leads. Behind every deal with them, they hide an evil intent towards him.

Since President Trump is results oriented, and impeachment by the House is one hell of a result (as opposed to theory or rhetoric), when he gets a majority Congress again, but this time with much fewer swamp creatures on the Republican side, I doubt he will be granting any opponent much quarter. He now knows what they do and has felt it on his own hide. 

Ironically, this will help clean out the swamp much faster and with more long-lasting results than anything else anyone could have done.

Thank you Democrats. Suicide is a lousy weapon, but it's a great tool when you do it for getting you out of the way.

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Michael

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Here is the text of President Trump's letter to the House and Speaker Pelosi regarding impeachment.

As many pundits and scholars are saying (the first I saw was Hugh Hewitt), this letter will be taught and included in textbooks on Constitutional Law on down the ages.

I, also, believe this letter and the impeachment will be studied by psychologists. I don't mean that as a quip. They will not be studying President Trump's psychology, but instead, how the mechanisms of fear, hatred, and propaganda work to gin up group madness (the psychology of crowds) and blind the rational faculty, even among highly intelligent people and well-seasoned politicians.

Here is the PDF version on Scribd: Letter From President Trump to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Denouncing Impeachment

And here is a searchable text for those who want to read it on OL:

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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
December 17, 2019

The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker of the House of Representatives
Washington. D.C. 20515

Dear Madam Speaker:

I write to express my strongest and most powerful protest against the partisan impeachment crusade being pursued by the Democrats in the House of Representatives. This impeachment represents an unprecedented and unconstitutional abuse of power by Democrat Lawmakers, unequaled in nearly two and a half centuries of American legislative history.

The Articles of Impeachment introduced by the House Judiciary Committee are not recognizable under any standard of Constitutional theory, interpretation, or jurisprudence. They include no crimes, no misdemeanors, and no offenses whatsoever. You have cheapened the importance of the very ugly word, impeachment!

By proceeding with your invalid impeachment, you are violating your oaths of office, you are breaking your allegiance to the Constitution, and you are declaring open war on American Democracy. You dare to invoke the Founding Fathers in pursuit of this election-nullification scheme—yet your spiteful actions display unfettered contempt for America’s founding and your egregious conduct threatens to destroy that which our Founders pledged their very lives to build. Even worse than offending the Founding Fathers, you are offending Americans of faith by continually saying “I pray for the President,” when you know this statement is not true, unless it is meant in a negative sense. It is a terrible thing you are doing, but you will have to live with it, not I!

Your first claim, “Abuse of Power,” is a completely disingenuous, meritless, and baseless invention of your imagination. You know that I had a totally innocent conversation with the President of Ukraine. I then had a second conversation that has been misquoted, mischaracterized, and fraudulently misrepresented. Fortunately, there was a transcript of the conversation taken, and you know from the transcript (which was immediately made available) that the paragraph in question was perfect. I said to President Zelensky: “I would like you to do us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.” I said do us a favor, not me, and our country, not a campaign. I then mentioned the Attorney General of the United States. Every time I talk with a foreign leader, I put America’s interests first, just as I did with President Zelensky.

You are turning a policy disagreement between two branches of government into an impeachable offense—it is no more legitimate than the Executive Branch charging members of Congress with crimes for the lawful exercise of legislative power.

You know full well that Vice President Biden used his office and $1 billion dollars of US. aid money to coerce Ukraine into firing the prosecutor who was digging into the company paying his son millions of dollars. You know this because Biden bragged about it on video. Biden openly stated: “I said, ‘I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars’... I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired.” Even Joe Biden admitted just days ago in an interview with NPR that it “looked bad.” Now you are trying to impeach me by falsely accusing me of doing what Joe Biden has admitted he actually did.

President Zelensky has repeatedly declared that I did nothing wrong, and that there was No Pressure. He further emphasized that it was a “good phone call,” that “I don’t feel pressure,” and explicitly stressed that “nobody pushed me.” The Ukrainian Foreign Minister stated very clearly: “I have never seen a direct link between investigations and security assistance.” He also said there was “No Pressure.” Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, a supporter of Ukraine who met privately with President Zelensky, has said: “At no time during this meeting… was there any mention by Zelensky or any Ukrainian that they were feeling pressure to do anything in return for the military aid.” Many meetings have been held between representatives of Ukraine and our country. Never once did Ukraine complain about pressure being applied—not once! Ambassador Sondland testified that I told him: “No quid pro quo. I want nothing. I want nothing. I want President Zelensky to do the right thing, do what he ran on.”

The second claim, so-called “Obstruction of Congress,” is preposterous and dangerous. House Democrats are trying to impeach the duly elected President of the United States for asserting Constitutionally based privileges that have been asserted on a bipartisan basis by administrations of both political parties throughout our Nation’s history. Under that standard, every American president would have been impeached many times over. As liberal law professor Jonathan Turley warned when addressing Congressional Democrats: “I can’t emphasize this enough… if you impeach a president, if you make a high crime and misdemeanor out of going to the courts, it is an abuse of power. It’s your abuse of power. You’re doing precisely what you’re criticizing the President for doing.”

Everyone, you included, knows what is really happening. Your chosen candidate lost the election in 2016, in an Electoral College landslide (306-227), and you and your party have never recovered from this defeat. You have developed a full-fledged case of what many in the media call Trump Derangement Syndrome and sadly, you will never get over it! You are unwilling and unable to accept the verdict issued at the ballot box during the great Election of 2016. So you have spent three straight years attempting to overturn the will of the American people and nullify their votes. You View democracy as your enemy!

Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for “two and a half years,” long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine. Nineteen minutes after I took the oath of office, the Washington Post published a story headlined, “The Campaign to Impeach President Trump Has Begun.” Less than three months after my inauguration, Representative Maxine Waters stated, “I’m going to fight every day until he’s impeached.” House Democrats introduced the first impeachment resolution against me within months of my inauguration, for what will be regarded as one of our country’s best decisions, the firing of James Comey (see Inspector General Reports)–who the world now knows is one of the dirtiest cops our Nation has ever seen. A ranting and raving Congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib, declared just hours after she was sworn into office, “We’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the motherf****r.” Representative Al Green said in May, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.” Again, you and your allies said, and did, all of these things long before you ever heard of President Zelensky or anything related to Ukraine. As you know very well, this impeachment drive has nothing to do with Ukraine, or the totally appropriate conversation I had with its new president. It only has to do with your attempt to undo the election of 2016 and steal the election of 2020!

Congressman Adam Schiff cheated and lied all the way up to the present day, even going so far as to fraudulently make up, out of thin air, my conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine and read this fantasy language to Congress as though it were said by me. His shameless lies and deceptions, dating all the way back to the Russia Hoax, is one of the main reasons we are here today.

You and your party are desperate to distract from America’s extraordinary economy, incredible jobs boom, record stock market, soaring confidence, and flourishing citizens. Your party simply cannot compete with our record: 7 million new jobs; the lowest-ever unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans; a rebuilt military; a completely reformed VA with Choice and Accountability for our great veterans; more than 170 new federal judges and two Supreme Court Justices; historic tax and regulation cuts; the elimination of the individual mandate; the first decline in prescription drug prices in half a century; the first new branch of the United States Military since 1947, the Space Force; strong protection of the Second Amendment; criminal justice reform; a defeated ISIS caliphate and the killing of the world’s number one terrorist leader, al-Baghdadi; the replacement of the disastrous NAFTA trade deal with the wonderful USMCA (Mexico and Canada); a breakthrough Phase One trade deal with China; massive new trade deals with Japan and South Korea; withdrawal from the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal; cancellation of the unfair and costly Paris Climate Accord; becoming the world’s top energy producer; recognition of Israel’s capital, opening the American Embassy in Jerusalem, and recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights; a colossal reduction in illegal border crossings, the ending of Catch-and-Release, and the building of the Southern Border Wall—and that is just the beginning, there is so much more. You cannot defend your extreme policies—open borders, mass migration, high crime, crippling taxes, socialized healthcare, destruction of American energy, late-term taxpayer-funded abortion, elimination of the Second Amendment, radical far-left theories of law and justice, and constant partisan obstruction of both common sense and common good.

There is nothing I would rather do than stop referring to your party as the Do-Nothing Democrats. Unfortunately, I don’t know that you will ever give me a chance to do so.

After three years of unfair and unwarranted investigations, 45 million dollars spent, 18 angry Democrat prosecutors, the entire force of the FBI, headed by leadership now proven to be totally incompetent and corrupt, you have found NOTHING! Few people in high position could have endured or passed this test. You do not know, nor do you care, the great damage and hurt you have inflicted upon wonderful and loving members of my family. You conducted a fake investigation upon the democratically elected President of the United States, and you are doing it yet again.

There are not many people who could have taken the punishment inflicted during this period of time, and yet done so much for the success of America and its citizens. But instead of putting our country first, you have decided to disgrace our country still further. You completely failed with the Mueller report because there was nothing to find, so you decided to take the next hoax that came along, the phone call with Ukraine—even though it was a perfect call. And by the way, when I speak to foreign countries, there are many people, with permission, listening to the call on both sides of the conversation.

You are the ones interfering in America’s elections. You are the ones subverting America’s Democracy. You are the ones Obstructing Justice. You are the ones bringing pain and suffering to our Republic for your own selfish personal, political, and partisan gain.

Before the Impeachment Hoax, it was the Russian Witch Hunt. Against all evidence, and regardless of the truth, you and your deputies claimed that my campaign colluded with the Russians—a grave, malicious, and slanderous lie, a falsehood like no other. You forced our Nation through turmoil and torment over a wholly fabricated story, illegally purchased from a foreign spy by Hillary Clinton and the DNC in order to assault our democracy. Yet, when the monstrous lie was debunked and this Democrat conspiracy dissolved into dust, you did not apologize. You did not recant. You did not ask to be forgiven. You showed no remorse, no capacity for self-reflection. Instead, you pursued your next libelous and vicious crusade you engineered an attempt to frame and defame an innocent person. All of this was motivated by personal political calculation. Your Speakership and your party are held hostage by your most deranged and radical representatives of the far left. Each one of your members lives in fear of a socialist primary challenger—this is what is driving impeachment. Look at Congressman Nadler’s challenger. Look at yourself and others. Do not take our country down with your party.

If you truly cared about freedom and liberty for our Nation, then you would be devoting your vast investigative resources to exposing the full truth concerning the horrifying abuses of power before, during, and after the 2016 election—including the use of spies against my campaign, the submission of false evidence to a FISA court, and the concealment of exculpatory evidence in order to frame the innocent. The FBI has great and honorable people, but the leadership was inept and corrupt. I would think that you would personally be appalled by these revelations, because in your press conference the day you announced impeachment, you tied the impeachment effort directly to the completely discredited Russia Hoax, declaring twice that “all roads lead to Putin,” when you know that is an abject lie. I have been far tougher on Russia than President Obama ever even thought to be.

Any member of Congress who votes in support of impeachment—against every shred of truth, fact, evidence, and legal principle—is showing how deeply they revile the voters and how truly they detest America’ss Constitutional order. Our Founders feared the tribalization of partisan politics, and you are bringing their worst fears to life.

Worse still, I have been deprived of basic Constitutional Due Process from the beginning of this impeachment scam right up until the present. I have been denied the most fundamental rights afforded by the Constitution, including the right to present evidence, to have my own counsel present, to confront accusers, and to call and cross-examine witnesses, like the so-called whistleblower who started this entire hoax with a false report of the phone call that bears no relationship to the actual phone call that was made. Once I presented the transcribed call, which surprised and shocked the fraudsters (they never thought that such evidence would be presented), the so-called whistleblower, and the second whistleblower, disappeared because they got caught, their report was a fraud, and they were no longer going to be made available to us. In other words, once the phone call was made public, your whole plot blew up, but that didn’t stop you from continuing.

More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.

You and others on your committees have long said impeachment must be bipartisan—it is not. You said it was very divisive—it certainly is, even far more than you ever thought possible—and it will only get worse!

This is nothing more than an illegal, partisan attempted coup that will, based on recent sentiment, badly fail at the voting booth. You are not just after me, as President, you are after the entire Republican Party. But because of this colossal injustice, our party is more united than it has ever been before. History will judge you as you proceed with this impeachment Charade. Your legacy will be that of turning the House of Representatives from a revered legislative body into a Star Chamber of partisan persecution.

Perhaps most insulting of all is your false display of solemnity. You apparently have so little respect for the American People that you expect them to believe that you are approaching this impeachment somberly, reservedly, and reluctantly. No intelligent person believes what you are saying. Since the moment I won the election, the Democrat Party has been possessed by Impeachment Fever. There is no reticence. This is not a somber affair. You are making a mockery of impeachment and you are scarcely concealing your hatred of me, of the Republican Party, and tens of millions of patriotic Americans. The voters are wise, and they are seeing straight through this empty, hollow, and dangerous game you are playing.

I have no doubt the American people will hold you and the Democrats fully responsible in the upcoming 2020 election. They will not soon forgive your perversion of justice and abuse of power.

There is far too much that needs to be done to improve the lives of our citizens. It is time for you and the highly partisan Democrats in Congress to immediately cease this impeachment fantasy and get back to work for the American People. While I have no expectation that you will do so, I write this letter to you for the purpose of history and to put my thoughts on a permanent and indelible record.

One hundred years from now, when people look back at this affair, I want them to understand it, and learn from it, so that it can never happen to another President again.

Sincerely yours,

Donald J. Trump
President of the United States of America

cc:    United States Senate
         United States House of Representatives

To me, this is a devastating document that will help tarnish Pelosi's reputation, and that of her House cronies, for all history.

Also, there are plenty of sound-bites that I predict will be highly effective in the 2020 election--not just for President Trump's reelection, but for all others as well.

Landslide, here we come.

:) 

Michael

 

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President Trump was just now impeached by the House. At least, I think he was.

It's probably true.

And if so, the Dems just took their first drag on the crack pipe. No turning back.

It's going to be a long painful descent until they gradually lose everything. Or overdose on the way. And I am going to enjoy every minute of it.

:)

Michael

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7 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Yesterday I posted at the Atlas Society’s Instagram page, “Search Powell Ukraine. DemocRat purse full of blood money.”

Thirty minutes ago Jennifer Grossman, CEO of the Atlas Society, liked that comment.

Jon,

I looked but I didn't find. I don't use Instagram that much.

Link?

Michael

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15 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

President Trump was just now impeached by the House. At least, I think he was.

It's probably true.

Here is some confirmation:

Now the Senate will do its thing and toss this into the garbage.

Does anyone doubt that, after that, President Trump will pick this impeachment up like a club and pound the crap out of the Dems with it for the 2020 election? And that he'll push the entire Republican party to do the same?

I just now saw the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor used as a metaphor for this impeachment.

I want to feel sorry for the Democrats, but...

I just can't...

:)

Michael

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7 minutes ago, Jon Letendre said:

How far did you get in your looking — did you find their account and look at some posts and comments?

Jon,

Not far. I do not use mobile for social media. On a PC, Instagram is clunky and I'm just not into the platform. So I never spent the time trying to figure out how to navigate it.

I do have an account and, because of nudges, I followed the Atlas Society today as I was trying to find out about what you posted, but I really don't want another time-waster in my life. So I doubt I will spend much time on Instagram ever.

(I might change if I ever do an Internet marketing project that involves it.)

I'm interested in your comment because you posted it, but if you don't want to provide a link, no biggie.

Michael

 

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