Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Cathy,Kat and I gave you a birthday greeting over here.Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Happy St Patrick's Day everyone. This was my father's favorite holiday, he must have known something I didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 IF ANYONE READS THIS I NEED TO KNOW IF ANYONE ON THIS SITE IS A PEIRCE COUNTY GEORGIA ATTORNEY. I NEED SOME INFORMATION. EITHER MESSAGE ME HERE OR INBOX ME. ITS VERY IMPORTANT! THX INADVANCE ~CATHY~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 IF ANYONE READS THIS I NEED TO KNOW IF ANYONE ON THIS SITE IS A PEIRCE COUNTY GEORGIA ATTORNEY. I NEED SOME INFORMATION. EITHER MESSAGE ME HERE OR INBOX ME. ITS VERY IMPORTANT! THX INADVANCE ~CATHY~Go to justia.com and search "pierce county"--Brantinitial legal consultations tend to be free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 IF ANYONE READS THIS I NEED TO KNOW IF ANYONE ON THIS SITE IS A PEIRCE COUNTY GEORGIA ATTORNEY. I NEED SOME INFORMATION. EITHER MESSAGE ME HERE OR INBOX ME. ITS VERY IMPORTANT! THX INADVANCE ~CATHY~Go to justia.com and search "pierce county"--Brantinitial legal consultations tend to be freeThank you Brant! ~Cathy~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Shrugged' author's Lorain ties: 13th Street home houses bit of history Ayn Rand By JESSICA JAMES Posted: 10/27/12, 12:00 AM EDT | 0 Comments LORAIN -- A small piece of history sits at 212 W. 13th St. It's a home like many that have been lived in since the turn of the 20th century. The house was first occupied in 1909 by the O'Connor's, an Irish-American family who came from Johnstown, Penn., to work for The Johnston Steel Rail Co. The family consisted of seven children, one of whom was named Frank O'Connor, the husband of Alissa Rosenbaum, better known as novelist, Ayn Rand. Lorain School Board member Jim Smith has been researching the O'Connor family for several years. He said his interest in the topic has nothing to do with Rand's notoriety, but takes a closer look at the life of a family living in the International City during the early 1900s. "The fact that I too live in Lorain and that my paternal grandparents moved to Lorain from Johnstown at the same time as the O'Connor family increased my interest," Smith said. "For all I know, the families could have known each other." Smith's research begins at the 212 W. 13th St. home of Dennis and Mary Agnes O'Connor in 1909. Dennis was transferred to Lorain to work at The Johnson Steel Rail Co., the plants new division which at the time was one of the highest-paying steel mills in the nation. Dennis O'Connor brought home $35 for a 6-day-work-week to provide for his seven children. The O'Connor children attended St. Mary Academy on 8th and Reid Avenue. All went on to live separate lives and moved thoroughout the country. Frank O'Connor was the third-oldest sibling and moved to California with his three brothers. While working on the set of the silent film, "The King of Kings," Frank met Rand. She had recently arrived from Russia where she was born in 1905 growing up in St. Petersburg during the Bolshevik Revolution. The two were married in 1929 at the Los Angeles City Hall. Throughout their marriage, Frank played the role as house husband and Rand was the bread winner. It is believed Rand only visited Lorain once in 1938 to attend the funeral of Dennis O'Connor and drafts of her book, "The Fountain Head" were encased in her luggage. Frank appeared in 13 films throughout the 1920s and 30s. He died on Nov. 9, 1979, from a heart condition. He and Rand were married for more than 50 years despite her long-term affair with a family friend. Rand died three years later in March 1982. They are burried in Kensico Cemetery, in West Chester County, N.Y. "My interest in his project began when I learned about Ayn Rand and Frank O'Connor," Smith said. "That interest would have been short lived if I had not read Ellen Donohue Warwick's (niece of Frank O'Connor) memoir, 'M.O.M.' and read a recent biography of Ayn Rand." The film depiction of Rand's famous novel, "Atlas Shrugged" is currently in theaters. I don't know why it says that my aunt and uncle only came to Lorain when my grandfather died. But as you already know they came to Lorain many many times after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Cathy,I believe this is the link to that article: http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20121027/atlas-shrugged-authors-lorain-ties-13th-street-home-houses-bit-of-historyThanks for posting it.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Cathy, I believe this is the link to that article: http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20121027/atlas-shrugged-authors-lorain-ties-13th-street-home-houses-bit-of-history Thanks for posting it. MichaelThank you Michael. I think I remember you posting this before. Jim Smith is the one I met last summer who took my sister and I to my grandparents grave site, and their home, and school. I came across this and didn't know if I posted it...but now I remember you did...sorry. ~Cathy~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Happy Easter to you and your family Cathy...You joining this forum has been nothing less than spectacular for myself.You have provided me/us with great insight into Frank's side of the family.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Adam,I second that!Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Happy Easter to you and your family Cathy... You joining this forum has been nothing less than spectacular for myself. You have provided me/us with great insight into Frank's side of the family. A...Thank you Adam, but believe me when I say this...it has been all of you that have given me the insight. Happy Easter Adam to you and your family! ~Cathy~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Adam, I second that! MichaelThank you Michael, and Happy Easter to you, Kat, Tina and Shawn! ~Cathy~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 HAPPY EASTER TO ALL OF MY OBJECTIVISTS FRIENDS HERE IN O-LAND! ~CATHY~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 And that is the way a free and civil society works...we wish each other well and go about our passions, be they raising children, our towns, or, our businesses.A...Post Script:geez now I have to look for all my Easter icons/gifs...my pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 And that is the way a free and civil society works...we wish each other well and go about our passions, be they raising children, our towns, or, our businesses.A...Post Script:geez now I have to look for all my Easter icons/gifs...my pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Everybody happy, happy, happy!--Happy for happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 And that is the way a free and civil society works...we wish each other well and go about our passions, be they raising children, our towns, or, our businesses.A...Post Script:geez now I have to look for all my Easter icons/gifs...my pleasure A Kantian chicken?Frank and Ayn? A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 And that is the way a free and civil society works...we wish each other well and go about our passions, be they raising children, our towns, or, our businesses.A...Post Script:geez now I have to look for all my Easter icons/gifs...my pleasure A Kantian chicken?Frank and Ayn? A...Awwww, those are so cute! ~cathy~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Today has been a year since Jonathon started this post. It went from Frank's niece? to, Franks niece, to Franks niece! I have learned so much more about my family since then, with the help of all of you. I appreciate everyone of you, even the ones who were not so believing in the beginning. I had a lot of forgiveness and bitterness to over come without knowing the whole history, and because of you, I learned some hard lessons. When your a child You feel the whole world revolves around you, nobody else's life counts except through you. At least now, that is what I am learning about myself. Being separated from my family not knowing where they were, I felt very lost growing up, and that turned into resentfulness as an adult. During my separation from my family, Aunt Agnes had a stroke and then later she had gotten mugged in Shaker heights and received a broken hip. Aunt Alice's affair ended badly and Uncle Franks health was deteriorating, and my father was very sick with cancer. All of this just coincided with our families separation. None of us forgot each other, we all just had to get by with our own life's struggles. I've also learned every family member that you interact with as a child fills your soul up with a part of them. You learn their mannerisms, a look, their stance, little pieces of every family member is imbedded in you without you ever realizing it. I read something on f/b that Aunt Alice said to a friend about her cat, I can see her saying those exact words, but what I can see most is the look on her face as she said them. The funny thing is, I give this same look to my kids when I want them to understand the exact meaning of what I say to them. I also noticed the way I teach my grandchildren to tie their shoes, I can see the same hands and hand movements as Uncle Frank had when he taught me to tie mine...only smaller in size. Jonathon's post opened a door for me on these things that I didn't know I ever cared about, to knowing now, how I ever lived without. My three year old grand daughter gives that look like aunt Alice would give...and I know now she gets it from me. I could say thank you a million times and it would never come close to the appreciation I have for all of you! Happy one year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Happy OL anniversary to you, Cathy! I'm so glad that you showed up here, shared what you were going through, and let us get to know you and your family.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Cathy,You really are a sweetheart.Happy one year!Michael & Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Thank you Jonathon for starting this post, I will be forever indebted to you . And Michael, your the sweet one, you had so much patients with me, that I didn't have for myself...thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Cathy,Kat called me from work just now to say that some dork somewhere on the Internet in O-Land doesn't believe you are Frank's niece and is giving you grief about it. (In a Facebook group, I think.)Heh.Dorks are gonna dork. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Cathy, Kat called me from work just now to say that some dork somewhere on the Internet in O-Land doesn't believe you are Frank's niece and is giving you grief about it. (In a Facebook group, I think.) Heh. Dorks are gonna dork. MichaelYes he did. My friend tagged me to it. They had a picture that for me was totally disrespecting "ayn Rand's" views of young women. the main shot in the picture was an attractive young woman half naked dancing on a pole. Beside her was a bookshelf filled with books that you couldn't read the titles of. Beside the book shelf was a little red arrow pointing to one of the books and under the arrow was the words "Atlas Shrugged". Insinuating the stripper reads "Atlas Shrugged" Or that its ok to be a tripper because you read "Atlas Shrugged" I was offended by this because I am teaching my daughter about my aunt and that is the only reason I sign up on these groups. She is 14 and I know that my aunt was for using your mind not your body. He said something along the lines of...someone who claims to be the niece of the man who slept with Ayn Rand. He said, if I was her niece, then he should tell me he was related to Nathan's third cousin once removed ...or something like that. I told him I could tell his family trait through his arrogance. I asked to be removed from the group, I couldn't find the remove button. He told me if I was related to them I should have the brains to remove myself. Then he IM'd me with some very insulting joke. He called me a stupid blonde. He felt she would have approved of the picture because she was for women's rights. I know she was for a woman's rights, but no way would say to become a stripper as long as your good at it. He brings up her affair like she would have approved of a stripper, that times have changed and so would her views. With everything I was brought up in...my views haven't changed and I don't think hers would have either. I think if she was still her she would tell my daughter to use her mind, not her body. I know I am not good at explaining things, but he was very mean. and I just wanted off that group so my daughter wouldn't see it. A person tried to explain how to remove myself from the group and he deleted her comment so he could still insult me. His name is Juan Gallardo and he is an admin to the group Ayn Rand International. Most of these groups I can put up with their thinking I am a troll or what not. But because I felt that they were disrespecting my aunt and all the hard work she had done and insulting me I actually left that page crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Cathy,I don't belong to the Ayn Rand International Facebook group and I don't feel like joining, although I looked and there are several people who are my Facebook friends who belong to it.I looked up Juan Gallardo and the sucker lives right where I do, here in Evanston! I looked at what I could on Facebook without joining, sending messages, etc., and he seems harmless enough. All bark and no bite. His page says he's a widower looking for women, so that might explain why he's looking at strippers and not at Ayn Rand on an Ayn Rand page. I think the dude's lonely and a bit stupid, but not evil. Anyone who would be gratuitously hostile to you is stupid. For the record, your aunt did a Playboy interview. She said she approved of the glorification of the human body like that magazine did. But she also thought pornography was disgusting because, to her, the act of sex demanded privacy. (If I remember correctly, she had some choice comments to say about livestock and barns when she discussed it, too. ) She defended the right of all to engage in pornography and buy it, though, so long as they were adults and did so consensually.A stripper? In my understanding of Rand, I thinks she would have put it in context. If the strip were artistic, I think she would have been for it. The Stoddard Temple that Roark designed in The Fountainhead had a statue of a nude woman in the middle of it. If the strip were nothing but a prompt for lewd thoughts and behavior like in a seedy nightclub, I think she would have blasted it as disgusting. My opinion...Also, Gallardo is probably hostile to Christianity, so he probably wouldn't respect your values in raising kids. My recommendation is to stay away from people like that. They tend to want to hurt people they don't understand.Ayn Rand had a good phrase for it when you let folks like that hurt you. She was talking about the moral realm, but it works for the emotional one as well. She called it sanction of the victim. That dude can only hurt you if you give him your sanction to. So just remove your sanction and erase him from your life. Problem solved.This is basically a control thing. You can't control when someone wants to be a jerk. But you can control your sanction of interacting with him. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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