Kyle Jacob Biodrowski

Don't laugh, Jules. I've been to hell and I brought this back as a souvenir.

Honestly, when I saw the header, I thought this post concerned me.

Any one care to dig up a rotting corpse?

This one goes out to you, Brant.

A name is a name is a name is a name. And the tale goes on and on and on.

Meh, that's not cynical. Find me at 3 a.m. on a Monday night after I realize I've been scammed $40 on an e-book that promised to make me hundreds of dollars a day. Now that's cynical.

Unfortunately, the video has been removed. And I was really curious too.

I'm a fan of their older material.

Here's art of an object. Am I getting closer?

I don't recognize the song at all. I never got into "Vikings", though, I've heard it's great. Wow, I didn't expect the song to be played so fast. I'm still listening to it and I'm unable to form an opinion about it, lol. Here's a Apocalyptica and Metallica live collaboration.

I don't think I've posted this one yet. I've likely, unintentionally, posted one song twice and, in some cases, two songs once, during the course of this thread.

"Define your terms"This is a personal favorite of mine. I often ask "What exactly do you mean?". This tends to make my "opponent" nervous. It doesn't help that I say it slowly and narrow my eyes.

Thanks for that, Jules. It's late at night and I'm experiencing a bit of melancholy, so I need something a little more subtle and pensive.

You have succeeded. Go to the beach. Take a well-earned vacation. Objectivist Living is now the pioneer for the dark ages of Objectivism if not the American culture generally. Michael and his OL have pulled the lid off hell. --Brant truth teller (I am the one) (I can tell the software here has been upgraded-degraded) 2cryptic4me No reason we can't take this thread in a "new direction". Fun fact about power metal. Power metal, specifically melodic power metal, is sometimes called "happy metal". http://youtu.be/mIVf9DLu6os

I can only counter with this short Freddie Mercury tribute. I'm running out of ammunition.

The vocal style reminds me of this song from Prong. http://youtu.be/SlgcvQ7KyNI Heh, a crackhead who doesn't like Sepultura. Now I've seen it all. BTW, Michael, BTFW!--why do you tolerate all this anti-life crap on OL? --Brant Preacher--Preacher of Objectivism!--Bow down ye sinners!--bow down to RAND! bow, wow--bow, wow The forbidden fruit is the most alluring.

This calls for an unwarranted and reckless response! I'm pulling out all the stops; may this thread be filled with anti-life!

You have a better side? Better side/badder side (my badder side is my bladder side)? Is this your "dual" nature or are you dualling? --Brant Dual at Diablo My batter side likes either baseball or cooking.

I don't know about you folks, but I find it difficult to talk to strangers. Today, or Yesterday to be accurate, I went to another Amway information session. After the session was over, I ran into an experienced Amway member. The conversation was awkward at best. The content was fine, but my presentation just plain sucked. Well, I guess I've gotten somewhat better over the years... If I gain anything from this Amway deal, I hope it's better interpersonal skills. This is my 333rd post. Another 333 posts and I'll get a free ticket to the next Amway conference. The above joke has to be my worst joke yet. I better go to bed.

I may work on some freedom-oriented memes of my own. I may make image macros like the one in Michael's post. Unfortunately, my photo alteration software is rather...basic, to put it lightly. For now, I guess I'll just work on my humor. Later, I'll use it in my image macros. On the Internet, nothing spreads faster than humor.

Michael, you're leaving me with tons of good information and advice, so...thanks! Why would I attend any Amway event for sales advice when I can just ask you? I loved learning about Cialdini's six triggers. After learning of them, it almost seems like I knew of them all along. I'm currently reading a book titled The Dynamics of Persuasion. In this book, seven interpersonal persuasion techniques are discussed. These seven techniques are foot-in-the-door, door-in-the-face, low-balling, "that's not all" technique, fear-then-relief, pique technique, and disrupt-then-reframe technique. Concerning these techniques and persuasion, the book explains what works, how it works, when it works, and (my personal favorite) why it works. Here's a brief explanation of each technique. You may be able to see how some of Cialdini's six triggers are involved in the following techniques. Note, these techniques may be used in situations other than sales. Foot-in-the-door: The seller gets the buyer to buy a low priced item, then offers a higher priced item. (The target price is the price of the higher priced item) Door-in-the-face: The seller offers a high priced item and, upon refusal, offers a lower priced item. (The target price is the price of the lower priced item) Low-balling: The seller offers a product at a low price and, then, increases the price when the buyers commits to the product. (The target price is the increased price) "that's not all" technique: The seller offers a portion of an item at the target price and, later, adds the other portion of the product with a phrase akin to "that's not all". For example, a seller attempts to sell a bundle of cookies and cupcakes for $10. He separates the cookies and the cupcakes and tries to sell the cookies alone for $10. After the buyer refuses, the seller adds the cupcakes to the bundle "for free". Pique technique: The seller piques interest by phrasing the sales message in an odd or unusual way. For example, "You can buy this bouquet for exactly 300 pennies." Fear-then-relief: The seller stimulates a fear response and, then, a relief response coupled with his product or service. The customer associates the relief with the juxtaposed product. Disrupt-then-reframe: The seller does something unusual to disrupt the customer's automated defenses and, then, reframes the message. Some of the above techniques mesh with Cialdini's six triggers. You may be able to infer which techniques mesh with which of Cialdini's six. For example, the foot-in-the-door technique may rely on the consistency trigger. This involves self-perception. In a foot-in-the-door charity scenario, the customer, having acquiesced to the small request to give money to the charity, may view himself as a good person (this is the perception). This consistency factor works to ensure that the customer acquiesces to the larger request proceeding the smaller request. This brings to mind a seemingly unrelated topic. In political commentary, it seems that consistency is highly valued. Whenever a politician makes a move that is (or seems to be) inconsistent with his stated ideology, the appropriate media pounce on, and proceed to, viciously maul him. Politicians are routinely attacked for displaying purportedly inconsistent behavior. Allegations of hypocrisy seem to be surefire ammunition in the world of political commentary. Things that make you go "hmmm"...

My better side says to discontinue this dual; my badder side urges me on. I counter, again, with this sweet "Painkiller" cover. P.S. Jules, you can post the video by clicking Youtube's "Share" button below the video. Just copy and paste the link into OL's post box.

We need more freedom-oriented memes.

I'll get to the videos. First, my thoughts on the Amway event, "Vision Victory". It was a rather fun event, though, some sessions became a bit boring at times. I fought to stay awake at some of the sessions. It didn't help that I received only a few hours of sleep Friday night and Saturday night. What I saw and experienced at this event is what I expect to experience at any business and marketing event. Deafening house music, light-shows, and inspirational speeches. There was only a one or two sessions, 2-6 hour sessions a day. Typically, the sessions followed a "problem, solution, benefit" approach. A speaker would tell you about his life before joining Amway, the problems he had, how he joined Amway, and how much he benefited from joining Amway. Tons of success stories were presented and making money was heavily emphasized. I got a little sick of it after awhile. Very little advice was given on how to exactly become so successful. The little advice that was given was general business advice: be passionate, committed, etc. Additionally, more specific advice was given at the VERY END of the event. Literally, this advice was given during the final five minutes of the last session on Sunday. And I missed most of it because I had to pee. I caught some of the final advice, but it was earth-shattering, but it was a lot more specific than the other advice given during most sessions.The lack of specific advice was disappointing...However, I didn't walk away from this event empty-headed. I learned a lot about audience "manipulation" and control. I learned how to instill motivation and inspiration. I'd say this was worth the cost of going to the event. I also learned some valuable interpersonal skills during this event. During the event, a thought crossed my mind: maybe I had expected the wrong things from this event. But, in my defense, the sessions were called "training" sessions. What exactly were they training us to do? Make money? I expected at least some money-making techniques to be discussed. A rave-party was hosted Friday night; it got a little out-of-hand. One of the participants broke his knee, somehow. No parties Saturday. I just explored the hotel, at 1:00 a.m., on Saturday, in search of snacks. Sunday had two sessions; a worship session and another "training" session. The worship session was pretty cool. They had a band playing Christian rock. Though, not really my style of music, I kind of liked it. I also got a cool Bible out of it. I slept in a 2-bed room with a few other guys. Friday, there were six guys sharing the room (including me). Saturday night, the number dropped down to four guys (including me). I was not willing to share a bed with a guy, so I slept on the floor. Not the first time I slept on the floor. I slept fairly well, given my situation. I think, during Saturday night, I woke up, sat up, hit my head on the table I was sleeping under, and knocked myself back into sleep. I don't regret going; it was kind of cool. Tons of pretty women and handsome men. Also, as mentioned above, I learned a thing or two about a thing or two.

Looks like I have another song to add to my playlist. No, I counter with "Wait and Bleed".