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On March 23, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Peter said:

I see Trump’s “proposed budget” is slightly higher than former President Obama’s biggest budget. Is Trump upholding his campaign promise to drain the swamp and make America great again? Or does his budget enlarge the swamp and drive America deeper into the ditch of insolvency? I am sure there will be the counter argument that, this is Trump’s opening bid and if the House and Senate protest this flagrant expansion of government then he will lower his next bid. What *expectable* crap.

Is Trump a truly different, political animal or more of the same? His approval numbers should be dropping lower after this. Let’s see, 49 percent the Democrats vote NAY and 20 percent of the Republicans vote NAY. As Dionne Warwick sang, “Promises, Promises,” and if you don’t keep your promises thou shalt be scorned and look like the fool you are.

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I am sorry but I do not see broken promises . 

 

They get to vote , they voted no , we move on and guaranteed he puts through WHATEVER he wants next .

Media has officially died , Trump just became King .

Is anyone ever gonna catch on to how freaking brilliant this guy is ???????

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Trump's True Truth Social account re-Truths a definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome:  

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That's what it says at the top of the page.  Your point?  It's not like this thread has devolved into a medley of cat videos.  Yet.  

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It is intriguing.  I've been fairly obsessed for about a year with thinking about details.  I find microbiology fascinating. I wouldn't be wise, however, to talk about details.  The schemers are

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On ‎3‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 7:35 PM, Brant Gaede said:

Each succeeding generation of American drivers drive better and safer.

...however, all of that pent up cultural stupidity has to go somewhere.

 So while there were 40,000 vehicle deaths in 2016... there were 52,000 prescription opoid overdose deaths in the same year.

 

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10 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

You'll be fighting rising interest rates and a weakening dollar and a lowering of federal spending into the economy.

--Brant

I hear you but I am an old school trader . You know that ! So , its contrarian stuff .  Everyone is waiting for the bubble to burst but the bubbles don't burst when we expect .

Rates have to go up , where else can they go and the "street" is aware of rate increases . Stocks get cheaper with the weak dollar as foreign investors bring their money home . Usually incoming Presidents get the first 2 years to do things then the last 2 years to try for the second term but Trump won his second term yesterday and he won it so dramatcally that maybe the people even give him a 3rd term ( just kidding but sentiment will guarantee a 3rd term to whom The King anoints !

Therefore the market is ready to really have a crazy run here .

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8 hours ago, moralist said:

...however, all of that pent up cultural stupidity has to go somewhere.

 So while there were 40,000 vehicle deaths in 2016... there were 52,000 prescription opoid overdose deaths in the same year.

 

Greg

With self driving cars , I bet you that deaths go down from cars , and up from the other stuff cause folks be doing more pills while not driving 

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14 hours ago, william.scherk said:

The first stirrings of hoopla ...  hounds will be howling tonight.

From Memeorandum.com this minute.

And from the multinational octopus and filter-feeding ad broker, Them:

 

I hope that our fearless Commander in Chief MSK does not ban me for swearing and I do not have time to read the policy here on profanity but there is only one way to explain what happened yesterday .

 

Motherfuckers blinked , Trump acted the fool .

In chess , we call this a sacrifice . He choose to lose a bishop or a horse but he won the game . Chess is all about time and President Trump has around 8 years left - what 2-3 months !!!!!!!!!!!

Stay woke , folks . This is OL , not CNN !!!!!

 

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14 hours ago, william.scherk said:

The first stirrings of hoopla ...  hounds will be howling tonight.

From Memeorandum.com this minute.

And from the multinational octopus and filter-feeding ad broker, Them:

 

The French , The Germans , The British , The Canadians ( I know , who cares but us ! ) and The Russians . 

King of The World ! 

Bet you that Cuba and North Korea even come into this New World Order !!!

Reminds me of Reagan , Thatcher , Mulroney et al . And the wall came crumbling down !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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9 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

Lol William.  Wonder if Obama is laughing just a little bit.

Most likely.   The Donald is just discovering that governing  is nothing like selling hotels and gambling casinos on The Boardwalk. And he cannot tell the House of Representative  "You're fired!".  Governance is not, never has been  nor will it ever be a simple straight forward thing  like selling Snake Oil to the suckers.  Our Donald was ill fit by experience to be a governor within a political orders.  Hell,  being President is the first political position he has ever held.  Hoodathunkit???  Only in America!

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1 hour ago, BaalChatzaf said:

Most likely.   The Donald is just discovering that governing  is nothing like selling hotels and gambling casinos on The Boardwalk. And he cannot tell the House of Representative  "You're fired!".  Governance is not, never has been  nor will it ever be a simple straight forward thing  like selling Snake Oil to the suckers.  Our Donald was ill fit by experience to be a governor within a political orders.  Hell,  being President is the first political position he has ever held.  Hoodathunkit???  Only in America!

The Donald is going to discover that entering a process for The Nominee is not like selling hotels and gambling casinos on The Boardwalk .

Also , how he cannot win a Primary """"""""""""""""

Also how he cannot win the Nominee """"""""""""""""""""""""""

Also how he cannot win an election """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Also how he cannot win a second term """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Also how he cannot be a respected and admired and loved 2 term Prez """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

For God sake , when will people stop this insanity 

Reality , is reality .

This is what makes America great , 

 

DT is taking over the entire Universe , he won , you lost , its over . STOP please 

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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35 minutes ago, Marc said:

The Donald is going to discover that entering a process for The Nominee is not like selling hotels and gambling casinos on The Boardwalk .

Also , how he cannot win a Primary """"""""""""""""

Also how he cannot win the Nominee """"""""""""""""""""""""""

Also how he cannot win an election """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Also how he cannot win a second term """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Also how he cannot be a respected and admired and loved 2 term Prez """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

For God sake , when will people stop this insanity 

Reality , is reality .

This is what makes America great , 

 

DT is taking over the entire Universe , he won , you lost , its over . STOP please 

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I voted for Trump.  I wanted to bust up the chinaware of the Democrat party,  so I voted for a bull in the china shop.  so far, so good....

Trump was elected and Hillary was not.  There is nothing there to complain about.  

However,  you should not deny that Trump is wonderfully unqualified for governance.   Like I said. His main line of expertise is selling Hotels and Gambling Casinos on The Boardwalk.  Trump's life is what comes out of a Parker Brothers "Monopoly"  game box.  And America is great.  What great Republic other than the United States could elect an incompetent  as President?   Only in America. 

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An over-written chronicle at Politico, 

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4 hours ago, Marc said:

With self driving cars , I bet you that deaths go down from cars , and up from the other stuff cause folks be doing more pills while not driving 

Technology has a downside in that it makes people weak. Smartphones make dumb people. They are so weak that they suffer emotional anxiety when they become separated from their phone. See the movie "Idiocracy". It's prophetic.

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Everyone and their dog are chewing the bones today. I have highlighted the more interesting bits of Grand Supreme Hoopla ... 

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share.png Axios:
Inside the Trumpcare meltdown  —  When the balky hardliners of the House Freedom Caucus visited the White House earlier this week, this was Steve Bannon's opening line, according to people in the conference room in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building: … - Bannon's point was: This is the Republican platform.
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i30.jpgshare.png Mallory Shelbourne / The Hill:
Report: Bannon told conservatives ‘this is not a debate,’ you have to back bill  —  White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon told a group of House conservatives they had no choice but to back the GOP's ObamaCare repeal bill days before the bill was pulled, according to a new report.
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share.png Tim Alberta / Politico:
Inside the GOP's Health Care Debacle  —  Donald Trump had heard enough about policy and process.  It was Thursday afternoon and members of the House Freedom Caucus were peppering the president with wonkish concerns about the American Health Care Act—the language that would leave Obamacare's …
i9.jpgshare.png Wall Street Journal:
The ObamaCare Republicans  —  The GOP right blows up its best chance to reform government.  —  House Republicans pulled their health-care bill shortly before a vote on Friday, and for once the media dirge is right about a GOP defeat.  This is a major blow to the Trump Presidency …

 

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6 hours ago, Marc said:

For God sake , when will people stop this insanity 

Marc,

It's a religion, not reason.

No matter how many times you show them examples of a process working and explain how it works, they still believe their myths.

President Trump learned long ago to not bother trying to change people's myths. The trick is figuring out how the myths make the believers act, then using the myths to get what he wants from the believers.

(Notice that Bob did vote for Trump. And his myths are still intact, but he still voted for Trump. :evil: )

:) 

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Marc,

It's a religion, not reason.

No matter how many times you show them examples of a process working and explain how it works, they still believe their myths.

President Trump learned long ago to not bother trying to change people's myths. The trick is figuring out how the myths make the believers act, then using the myths to get what he wants from the believers.

(Notice that Bob did vote for Trump. And his myths are still intact, but he still voted for Trump. :evil: )

:) 

Michael

I agree with your read on Trump, Michael.

He has the spontaneous ability to adapt on the fly... and this is just another learning experience for him to refine his approach. He'll come up with other new methods to get his way. I want him to get his way... because his way is my way. nodder.gif

(...and Bob's only religion is cashing his government pension checks. :lol:  )

 

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23 minutes ago, moralist said:

He has the spontaneous ability to adapt on the fly... and this is just another learning experience for him to refine his approach. He'll come up with other new methods to get his way.

Greg,

The rub is in what he learned.

For example, if the withdrawal of this bill in the House is considered a fail, then one would conclude that the president just learned how the government works and will apply it in the future. This is based on President Trump historically being a quick study and, I admit, there might be some of that.

But I don't think he has trouble with this at all. I think he staged this thing and--literally--forced the vote-or-withdrawal to learn something else: who is who when the pedal meets the metal. Hell, he even got to see it up close because he personally called everyone.

Like other times, he shooed the rats out from under their hiding places. Now they are all scattered out in the open running around in circles, some scampering for cover again and others gloating about taking him down.

But notice that everybody--meaning the general public--is seeing it. The rats aren't bunkered down in the back rooms. Trump not only gained specific data on a lot of lawmakers (and guess what he'll do with that? :) ), he has it all out in the public. So nobody will be able to claim otherwise when future hammers slam down. That's a hell of a win for 64 days in office. Talk about getting the priority work done at the beginning...

I suppose we have to wait and see if I am right (and I am :) ), but I really, really, really look forward to watching President Trump play Congress like a virtuoso pianist plays a Steinway grand and seeing the press fake newsers keep scratching their heads wondering why they keep getting everything wrong about him. 

:) 

Michael

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34 minutes ago, moralist said:

Bob's only religion is cashing his government pension checks.

You are acting like an asshole, again. 

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3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Greg,

The rub is in what he learned.

For example, if the withdrawal of this bill in the House is considered a fail, then one would conclude that the president just learned how the government works and will apply it in the future. This is based on President Trump historically being a quick study and, I admit, there might be some of that.

But I don't think he has trouble with this at all. I think he staged this thing and--literally--forced the vote-or-withdrawal to learn something else: who is who when the pedal meets the metal. Hell, he even got to see it up close because he personally called everyone.

Like other times, he shooed the rats out from under their hiding places. Now they are all scattered out in the open running around in circles, some scampering for cover again and others gloating about taking him down.

But notice that everybody--meaning the general public--is seeing it. The rats aren't bunkered down in the back rooms. Trump not only gained specific data on a lot of lawmakers (and guess what he'll do with that? :) ), he has it all out in the public. So nobody will be able to claim otherwise when future hammers slam down. That's a hell of a win for 64 days in office. Talk about getting the priority work done at the beginning...

I suppose we have to wait and see if I am right (and I am :) ), but I really, really, really look forward to watching President Trump play Congress like a virtuoso pianist plays a Steinway grand and seeing the press fake newsers keep scratching their heads wondering why they keep getting everything wrong about him. 

:) 

Michael

This without a doubt will be the most interesting four political years of my lifetime. 

Trump separated the wheat from the chaff. I really like how he repeatedly made the point that the Democrats totally own the consequences of Obamacare. So when it turns to shit (...and it will), he's just going to use the opportunity to rub the Democrats' noses in it. He'll try again with another bill like he did with the temp immigration halt executive order.

Trump has plenty of time to learn the ropes. I think he's already doing just fine and know he'll improve.

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12 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said:

I voted for Trump.  I wanted to bust up the chinaware of the Democrat party,  so I voted for a bull in the china shop.  so far, so good....

Trump was elected and Hillary was not.  There is nothing there to complain about.  

However,  you should not deny that Trump is wonderfully unqualified for governance.   Like I said. His main line of expertise is selling Hotels and Gambling Casinos on The Boardwalk.  Trump's life is what comes out of a Parker Brothers "Monopoly"  game box.  And America is great.  What great Republic other than the United States could elect an incompetent  as President?   Only in America. 

Qualified like What or who ? Obama ? The qualification process is incorrect . His expertise is human nature 

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14 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said:

However,  you should not deny that Trump is wonderfully unqualified for governance.   Like I said. His main line of expertise is selling Hotels and Gambling Casinos on The Boardwalk.  Trump's life is what comes out of a Parker Brothers "Monopoly"  game box.  And America is great.  What great Republic other than the United States could elect an incompetent  as President?   Only in America. 

Here Bob displays the bitterness of a loser who has never taken the personal initiative to do anything useful in his life... which only makes him fit for the womb of government bureaucratic contract employment as a trained button pushing monkey. So naturally he has antipathy for an accomplished self motivated individualist self made successful American Capitalist entrepreneur.

Trump is everything Bob isn't... and that's why Trump gets scorn from an unproductive do-nothing collectivist failure.

Greg

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6 hours ago, moralist said:

Here Bob displays the bitterness of a loser who has never taken the personal initiative to do anything useful in his life... which only makes him fit for the womb of government bureaucratic contract employment as a trained button pushing monkey. So naturally he has antipathy for an accomplished self motivated individualist self made successful American Capitalist entrepreneur.

Trump is everything Bob isn't... and that's why Trump gets scorn from an unproductive do-nothing collectivist failure.

Greg

Surely you can ad hominem better than this.

--Brant

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On 3/25/2017 at 5:53 AM, Marc said:

I hear you but I am an old school trader . You know that ! So , its contrarian stuff .  Everyone is waiting for the bubble to burst but the bubbles don't burst when we expect .

Rates have to go up , where else can they go and the "street" is aware of rate increases . Stocks get cheaper with the weak dollar as foreign investors bring their money home . Usually incoming Presidents get the first 2 years to do things then the last 2 years to try for the second term but Trump won his second term yesterday and he won it so dramatcally that maybe the people even give him a 3rd term ( just kidding but sentiment will guarantee a 3rd term to whom The King anoints !

Therefore the market is ready to really have a crazy run here .

The "bubble" is long positions in S & P futures contracts the liquidation of which would spill over into equity prices.

I think the Canadian dollar will strengthen against the US dollar unless Canada raises its own interest rates. That's because a weaker US dollar means upper pressure on commodity prices including gold and Canada has a lot of its economy linked to commodity pricing. Also, it's already gone down and has probably bottomed.

To repeat, rising interest rates weaken the currency for that increases the price of money.

--Brant

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