Love defined in one sentence?

[Jonathan]

Here's the deal about God, using the standard definition: Eternal, omniscent, indestructible. Impossible for God to be for or against anything, because nothing can be for or against an eternal entity. Synonymous with physical nature -- the Universe -- which doesn't give a crap about you or me or my dog. God makes exactly as much sense as a lucky charm. A ghost story propounded to terrify and control savages before anyone knew the elements of chemistry, astronomy, or human anatomy. Magic words, sacraments and miracles are bullshit.

Those magic words, sacraments and miracles are no different than the fictional image of yourself that you try to sell here. At least they sometimes have some quality artistry to them, where you're just eighth-rate bullshit.

J

[Brant Gaede]

I wish I had more "likes" to give away...

"Likes" don't work very well if at all on OL.

It's a technical thing.

I can't even find any "LIKE" button to hit. (Wait a minute--there it is!)

Regardless, it doesn't seem to tally up anywhere.

--Brant

(the brutal intrusion of reality)

No? Too bad. It seems to work for me so far. I see total points when I visit other members profiles.

No kidding. I clicked on my LIKES in my profile and one old post of mine pops up. There's a "1" in the green to the right labeled "neutral."

--Brant

I don't like being liked anyway--makes me feel like I'm not doing something right (grump, grump, grump)

[Jonathan]

Few have done more damage to Objectivism than queers claiming to be latter day savants of Ayn Rand "studies" -- principally Sciabarra and his admirers and enablers.

None of the above is factually controversial. If you want to plug queer romance, go for it. I won't.

Wow, the issue of homosexuality is perplexingly personal and upsetting to you, Alan von Altendorf!

Why is that? Why are you, Alan von Altendorf, so angry about others' sexual preferences, personal lives, and views on love?

Specifically what "damage" do you, Alan von Altendorf, imagine that Sciabarra has done to Objectivism? Are you just having feelings again, or do you have some evidence to back up your statement?

J

[Wolf DeVoon]

Few have done more damage to Objectivism than queers claiming to be latter day savants of Ayn Rand "studies" -- principally Sciabarra and his admirers and enablers.

None of the above is factually controversial. If you want to plug queer romance, go for it. I won't.

Wow, the issue of homosexuality is perplexingly personal and upsetting to you,

Don't be a dope, Snidely. You can't impute emotion in a statement of reasoned assessment or personal choice.

[moralist]

Adam quotes:

"Tell me what a man finds sexually attractive and I will tell you his entire philosophy of life.

...especially whether it's a "what" or a "who"!

Here's a similar idea...

Tell me from where a man's money comes

and I will tell you his politics.

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

Few have done more damage to Objectivism than queers claiming to be latter day savants of Ayn Rand "studies" -- principally Sciabarra and his admirers and enablers.

None of the above is factually controversial. If you want to plug queer romance, go for it. I won't.

Wow, the issue of homosexuality is perplexingly personal and upsetting to you,

Don't be a dope, Snidely. You can't impute emotion in a statement of reasoned assessment or personal choice.

Can't we all not get along?

--Brant

Yes!

[Jonathan]

Few have done more damage to Objectivism than queers claiming to be latter day savants of Ayn Rand "studies" -- principally Sciabarra and his admirers and enablers.

None of the above is factually controversial. If you want to plug queer romance, go for it. I won't.

Wow, the issue of homosexuality is perplexingly personal and upsetting to you,

Don't be a dope, Snidely. You can't impute emotion in a statement of reasoned assessment or personal choice.

I wasn't responding to a "statement of reasoned assessment" because you didn't offer one. You emoted. You blurted. And when challenged to support your emotings with reason and evidence, you passed, as you always do.

Here, once again, is the latest challenge that you evaded:

"Specifically what 'damage' do you, Alan von Altendorf, imagine that Sciabarra has done to Objectivism? Are you just having feelings again, or do you have some evidence to back up your statement?"

You evaded it because you have nothing rational to back up your stupid assertion. You're just venting your little feelings again and trying to bluff that they're a "reasoned assessment."

J

[Jonathan]

Here's a similar idea...

Tell me from where a man's money comes

and I will tell you his politics.

I have an aunt who works as a lawyer.

What are her politics?

J

[moralist]

Wolf writes:

I suppose now is as good a time as any to talk about the contrary moral purposes of men and women.

For decent men and women their moral purposes are harmoniously complimentary and beneficial.

Outside of that is everything else...

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

Here's a similar idea...

Tell me from where a man's money comes

and I will tell you his politics.

I have an aunt who works as a lawyer.

What are her politics?

J

Democratic bloodsucker--the two I'm working with right now are Democrats (and Jewish).

--Brant

I feel faint

[ThomasHägg]

Wolf writes:

I suppose now is as good a time as any to talk about the contrary moral purposes of men and women.

For decent men and women their moral purposes are harmoniously complimentary and beneficial.

Outside of that is everything else...

Greg

I agree.

By the grace of reality and the nature of life, [hu]man —every [hu]man—is an end in himself, he exists for his own sake, and the achievement of his own happiness is his highest moral purpose. - "For the New Intellectual" by A. Rand

The respective nature (and thus morality) of men and women are different, but neither contradict the nature of human beings or their morality as described by Rand.

[Jules Troy]

Love is:

Reading OL on Christmas Eve!

Happy holidays you grumpy sods!

I'm out taking pics in a national park lol.

[Wolf DeVoon]

By the grace of reality and the nature of life, [hu]man —every [hu]man—is an end in himself, he exists for his own sake, and the achievement of his own happiness is his highest moral purpose.

Rewriting Rand to suit a politically correct agenda? Jeez. She said man and meant man. Women bear children, a completely different experience with different priorities. Women put the welfare of her children first. Men don't.

[ThomasHägg]

Love is:

Reading OL on Christmas Eve!

Happy holidays you grumpy sods!

I'm out taking pics in a national park lol.

Happy Holidays! Post/send something from your trip later will you?

[Brant Gaede]

Love is:

Reading OL on Christmas Eve!

Happy holidays you grumpy sods!

I'm out taking pics in a national park lol.

Waterton?

--Brant wants to know

[Jules Troy]

Elk Island, didn't get anything worth posting though.

[Brant Gaede]

Do a selfie.

--Brant

in mid flight

[moralist]

Jonathan writes:

I have an aunt who works as a lawyer.

What are her politics?

There are all kinds of lawyers, Jonathan.

You have not described in what field of law she works, or from where her money comes...

... so it's not possible for me to know her politics without that information.

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

Or with it. You can think you know. You can deal in probabilities.

[ThomasHägg]

Jonathan writes:

I have an aunt who works as a lawyer.

What are her politics?

There are all kinds of lawyers, Jonathan.

You have not described in what field of law she works, or from where her money comes...

... so it's not possible for me to know her politics without that information.

Greg

Or with it. You can think you know. You can deal in probabilities.

Yeah... Rand knew when she was just being cocky... I hope you do too Greg...

[Jonathan]

Jonathan writes:

I have an aunt who works as a lawyer.

What are her politics?

There are all kinds of lawyers, Jonathan.

You have not described in what field of law she works, or from where her money comes...

... so it's not possible for me to know her politics without that information.

Greg

She works as a intellectual property rights/copyright lawyer. Her money comes from authors of books, writers of songs, producers of movies and television programs, newspapers, magazines and websites.

The ideologies of her clients vary all over the spectrum. Some are conservative. Some are liberal. Some are libertarian. Some are socialist.

What are her politics?

Dipshit.

J

[Jonathan]

Women put the welfare of her children first.

Really? All women do? None of them ever fail to put their children first?

J

[Jonathan]

Jonathan writes:

I have an aunt who works as a lawyer.

What are her politics?

There are all kinds of lawyers, Jonathan.

You have not described in what field of law she works, or from where her money comes...

... so it's not possible for me to know her politics without that information.

Greg

Or with it. You can think you know. You can deal in probabilities.

Yeah... Rand knew when she was just being cocky... I hope you do too Greg...

I don't think that she did know when she was being cocky and over the top. I think she actually believed her own bullshit.

J

[Brant Gaede]

Insofar as she dealt in it. You have to give her her due.

Without that, there's no reason to be here on OL.

--Brant

[moralist]

Jonathan writes:

She works as a intellectual property rights/copyright lawyer. Her money comes from authors of books, writers of songs, producers of movies and television programs, newspapers, magazines and websites.

The ideologies of her clients vary all over the spectrum. Some are conservative. Some are liberal. Some are libertarian. Some are socialist.

What are her politics?

Well, Jonathan... females (as differentiated from women) naturally tend to be liberal, similar to childish males like you, because you failed to grow into a decent responsible man. This is because liberalism is a feminized ideology. The media and arts are also primarily feminized liberal, just as the legal system is also primarily liberal in nature...

...however, private property rights is a Conservative principle not a liberal one... so I'll say she's Conservative for defending those rights regardless of the political views of her clients. Especially if she might be practicing wholly within the private sector and not connected with the government.

I'm also totally free to do business with people who hold a wide spectrum of different political views, because the criteria for an ethical business transaction is matching values... not matching political views. So I never hold people's politics against them as long as they have decent values...

...and that's why I never do business with people who have your kind of values, Jonathan. As Ayn Rand would say, you ring the "leper's bell" wherever you go... and whenever I hear that sound, I know it's wise to avoid any contact.

Greg