Penn State

[caroljane]

The man seems to have dedicated himself to helping young men build productive, purposeful, responsible lives. So why in God’s name would he look the other way when he discovered that a walking pile of dung named Jerry Sandusky was destroyThe ing young boys?

He pissed on his own legacy. Unbelievable.

The Tragic Flaw. It caused him to allow the destruction of those boys, then defile his own grave. Unbelievable, and classically tragic.

[Selene]

The man seems to have dedicated himself to helping young men build productive, purposeful, responsible lives. So why in God’s name would he look the other way when he discovered that a walking pile of dung named Jerry Sandusky was destroyThe ing young boys?

He pissed on his own legacy. Unbelievable.

The Tragic Flaw. It caused him to allow the destruction of those boys, then defile his own grave. Unbelievable, and classically tragic.

I fear that when, or even if, we ever find out what happened at Penn State, the pure revulsion will be of epic proportions...

[caroljane]

Will it ever be over?

Spouses of pedos are usually, I feel, also victims and unaware - wilfully blind, in some cases, but usually unaware. But not Dottie Sandusky. Dottie lied.

I was a wife of a coac# and our place was full of kids 8-13 for years. No way would my spouse s#ower w/ kids (even own sons) - or initiate contact beyond occasional normal tussles; no way would I notve seen or sensed an undercurrent of fear or sullenness or over-interest , No way.

Jury is out, and do not know Jers own son is now an accuser..

[Selene]

Carol:

His adopted son...

Adam

[caroljane]

O Adam, adoption makes it worse.

[caroljane]

I start to understand and more respect McQueary . W/ all to lose, at least MMcQ spoke. Many Unknown Witnesses were silent.

[Selene]

O Adam, adoption makes it worse.

Interesting statement...I don't know if "better," or, "worse," can be applied to describe this cauldron of evil.

[Selene]

I start to understand and more respect McQueary . W/ all to lose, at least MMcQ spoke. Many Unknown Witnesses were silent.

Yes, he did come forward at long last. No one knows how they would react. One only hopes that they will do what is right and put personal risk aside.

[caroljane]

O Adam, adoption makes it worse.

Interesting statement...I don't know if "better," or, "worse," can be applied to describe this cauldron of evil.

I mean, it seems, S adopted in order to abuse, or to continue abuse.

[Selene]

O Adam, adoption makes it worse.

Interesting statement...I don't know if "better," or, "worse," can be applied to describe this cauldron of evil.

I mean, it seems, S adopted in order to abuse, or to continue abuse.

I understand what you meant, I just never thought of framing it in a "better or worse" parameter...I am getting very "picky" on semantics and syntax, spurred on by my reading Branden's Honoring the Self for the first time...

[Selene]

June 22, 2012

Sandusky Guilty of Sexual Abuse of 10 Young Boys

By JOE DRAPE

BELLEFONTE, Pa. — Jerry Sandusky, a former Penn State assistant football coach, was convicted Friday of sexually abusing young boys, completing the downfall of a onetime local hero in a pedophilia scandal that shook a proud Pennsylvania community, a prominent American university and the world of major college football.

A jury in Centre County Court convicted Sandusky, 68, of sexually assaulting 10 boys, all of them children from disadvantaged homes whom Sandusky, using his access to the university’s vaunted football program, had befriended and then repeatedly violated. The jury, seven women and five men, more than half with ties to Penn State, returned a verdict on the second day of deliberation.

Sandusky stood stoically as the jury foreman read a litany of guilty verdicts, a total of 45 counts in all. Many of the charges, which include rape and sodomy, carry significant prison terms, and it seems likely that Sandusky will spend the rest of life behind bars. Sandusky was taken into custody after the verdicts were read.

The case against Sandusky, even before his trial, had exacted an enormous toll. Joe Paterno, the university’s famed head coach who had been alerted to at least one of Sandusky’s attacks on a boy, was fired, went into a kind of exile and was dead within months. The university’s longtime president, Graham B. Spanier, was dismissed as well, and Penn State officials, alumni and students were forced to confront the disturbing possibility that the interests of big-time college sports had trumped concern for the welfare of vulnerable children.

Sandusky, who had been Paterno’s longtime defensive coordinator, had also founded a charity, the Second Mile, to work with troubled youths. In a trial that lasted two weeks, prosecutors asserted that Sandusky had used the charity as his private hunting ground, scouting for potential victims. He gave them gifts and money, invited them to his home, took them to Penn State football games, showered with them at the university’s football building and slept with them in hotel rooms on the road.

Eight men testified during the trial, offering graphic accounts of repeated assaults by Sandusky — on the Penn State campus, in hotel rooms or in the basement of Sandusky’s home. It was painful testimony, the men telling their horrifying stories in public for the first time. Some wept. Others said, with anger and relief both, that they wanted to move on at last.

In one of the case’s final startling chapters, this coming after the case had gone to the jury on Thursday, another alleged victim came forward to assert Sandusky had molested him: it was one of Sandusky’s adopted children, Matt, who said he had offered to testify at the trial.

The verdict against Sandusky will not bring an end to Penn State’s problems or reckonings. Lawsuits loom. At least two formal investigations, including one by a former director of the F.B.I. at the behest of the university’s board of trustees, are still under way. And two senior university officials, the athletic director and the administrator in charge of the campus police, face criminal charges that they failed to act when informed that Sandusky had assaulted a 10-year-old boy in a university shower in 2001 and then lied about it under oath before a grand jury.

Sandusky’s arrest, early on a Saturday last November, registered with seismic force in this insular corner of Pennsylvania known as Happy Valley. He was regarded as a local pillar, a former Penn State standout who had played for Paterno and then spent 30 years on the sideline with him building the Nittany Lions defense into “Linebacker U” and the football team into a national power.

People expressed shock that the man they knew as a committed and selfless coach, a prominent fund-raiser for charity and a gregarious father figure to scores of aspiring football players and ordinary children alike could be capable of such crimes. Many, at least initially, refused to believe it.

But things got worse for Penn State, as charges and revelations were laid out by the state attorney general’s office: Sandusky had been investigated by campus police for possible sexual crimes against children as far back as 1998; in 2001, a graduate assistant in the football program had told Paterno and then other school officials that he had seen Sandusky sexually attacking a 10-year-old boy in the football building showers.

No one — not Paterno, not the graduate assistant, not the other school officials — ever reported the attack to police. Sandusky, who had retired two years before but retained an office and privileges on campus, was merely told not to bring take boys onto campus any longer.

The university erupted with upset. Paterno’s reputation was badly tainted. The outsize importance of college sports was debated anew, but this time with a wrenching kind of soul-searching.

Sandusky’s own behavior in that first week only deepened the sense of bewilderment. He gave a strange, almost incriminating interview to Bob Costas of NBC. He seemed not to grasp the severity of the accusations. His lawyer, Joseph Amendola, defiantly said his client was innocent, and began what would become a prolonged assault on the credibility of Sandusky’s accusers.

Soon, though, more accusers came forward. Sandusky’s house, where he lived for decades, raised a family and apparently carried out many of his attacks, was vandalized.

And Sandusky became a subject of national scorn and curiosity.

At one point in an interview with NBC, Sandusky was asked if he was sexually attracted to boys.

“Sexually attracted, you know, I, I enjoy young people,” Sandusky answered. “I, I love to be around them. No, I’m not sexually attracted to young boys.”

Joseph E. McGettigan III, the lead prosecutor, cited that reply in his closing argument on Thursday as evidence that Sandusky was a guilty man.

“I would think that the automatic response, if someone asks you if you’re a criminal, a pedophile, a child molester, or anything along those lines, would be: ‘You’re crazy. No. Are you nuts?’ ”

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: June 22, 2012

[Selene]

Now is the time for the DA to lean on Sandusky and cut him a sentencing deal of full protection, IF, he can finger this alleged Main Line Philadelphia pedophilia ring that allegedly provides young boys to the elite, wealthy, WASP [????] families.

[Selene]

‘Hey, Teacher, Leave Those Kids Alone’: Sandusky Serenaded By Inmates

June 25, 2012 8:19 AM

BELLEFONTE, Pa. (CBS Cleveland) - Jerry Sandusky was reportedly taunted by other inmates in song at the Centre County Correctional Facility when he was housed there this past December.

An inmate who identified himself only as “Josh” told The Daily that he and other prisoners sang well-known lyrics from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” to Sandusky.

“At night, we were singing ‘Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone,’” Josh was quoted as saying.

Though Sandusky was held alone in a separate cell reportedly designated for sex offenders and those with mental illnesses, he was still visible to other inmates, who mocked him with their singing when the lights went out for the night, The Daily reported.

Sandusky, the former assistant coach of Penn State’s celebrated football team, was found guilty of 45 counts of child sex abuse for his inappropriate sexual actions with 10 known victims over the past 15 years.

He was sent to the Centre County Correctional Facility in December of last year when several counts were added to the charges he was facing at the time.

After being found guilty last Friday, Sandusky was sent back to the same facility.

The minimum sentence Sandusky is said to face for his crimes will likely add up to a life sentence for the disgraced coach.

[Selene]

And now Penn State hopefully will get what it deserves.

Once again stressing my theory on child molestation...one strike...one bullet...results - priceless - that predator abuse zero additional children...

"Sandusky sexually abused other boys in the years after the 2001 incident and before his arrest.

CNN does not have the purported e-mails. However, the alleged contents were read to CNN.

The messages indicate former Penn State President Graham Spanier and two other former university officials knew they had a problem with Sandusky after a 2001 shower incident, but apparently first decided to handle it using a "humane" approach before contacting outside authorities whose job it is to investigate suspected abuse."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/30/justice/penn-state-emails/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[9thdoctor]

Looks like he got leniency. 30-60 years, instead of the 400 maximum. So, maybe when he's 98 he'll be able to get out?

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/09/jerry-sandusky-sentenced-to-30-60-years

[Brant Gaede]

And now Penn State hopefully will get what it deserves.

Once again stressing my theory on child molestation...one strike...one bullet...results - priceless - that predator abuse zero additional children...

"Sandusky sexually abused other boys in the years after the 2001 incident and before his arrest.

CNN does not have the purported e-mails. However, the alleged contents were read to CNN.

The messages indicate former Penn State President Graham Spanier and two other former university officials knew they had a problem with Sandusky after a 2001 shower incident, but apparently first decided to handle it using a "humane" approach before contacting outside authorities whose job it is to investigate suspected abuse."

http://www.cnn.com/2....html?hpt=hp_t1

Adam, your feel good approach isn't helpful. Those U bigwigs should get worse than S. Back in 2001 S might have gotten ten and stopped in his tracks then. But there were more crimes to follow. Who was most to blame for them? Consider the serial molester, then the serial kidnapper, raper and killer.The more you dump on one the more you encourage the other. Our alligator brains drive out cold reason even to the point of senseless wars. As for S, who cares about him? Not me. Take him out with a stick.

--Brant

[Brant Gaede]

Looks like he got leniency. 30-60 years, instead of the 400 maximum. So, maybe when he's 98 he'll be able to get out?

http://reason.com/bl...-to-30-60-years

He'll die in protective custody or be murdered in prison.

--Brant