Rich Engle

See? This is what I don't get about you. It's not like you don't write good stuff--you do. But it seems to me that there is no way that you can't not inject that shitty tone. What crawled up you and died? It's so bitter, so off-putting. Do you have such a fundamental disdain for most people? Praise and positives come pretty hard for you. Hard way to go through life, I would think. On top of that, you even went so far as to make it your show, your personal thing, on what was clearly a very clean, academic and historical thread. But you couldn't have that. I ask you: what is the purpose? How does it serve you, or anyone else? rde For real, dude.

Since all resources are limited, there can be no such thing as "unlimited" growth," insofar as the growth in question depends on those resources. The proper term is "indefinite growth." This simply means that we don't know what the limits might be. The universe is a pretty big place... Shayne Wow...that kind of profundity calls for a drink... I know. I almost cried when I read that. rde But Maybe For Different Reasons

Ray Kurzweil is a rather interesting fellow, isn't he? I just got another Kurzweil keyboard, overpriced pains in the ass that they are. But I like them, because I like the way he thinks. Mostly. Who would want immortality? That is a real question. To be here is a unique, singular experience--which means just that. Heinlein wrote some very interesting stuff about longevity in "Time Enough For Love," and for that matter related things whenever he used his Lazarus Long character. I'll miss this all dearly when it is gone, but things move forward--I don't think I would want to arrest that process, at least not for very long. rde

You still have whitebread, generic-Christian America. Most generic church-goers go there for reasons far outside of understanding and experiencing spirituality--they look to the church for some kind of "structure." They go there for a sense of community, and that's good. But by and far, the majority is not out to look under the covers. The homophobia, and fear regarding open sexuality runs pretty much as strong as ever. Most people don't get past nebulous concepts about the Bible. A vague feeling of knowing they are here and things happened before they were here. There is a lot of fear involved, and most fear, I think, comes from ignorance. Just like so much evil comes from hateful thinking, which comes from ignorance. Welcome to mainstream humanity. This all makes for good business. So of course you can talk about being academically tight on something like economics. But, you better be sure to go after those GLBTs, hookers, and anyone else that might open up things. All of this is the usual circus. What is going on at the higher levels, the elite levels, that is what is really fucking frightening. But quitting on trying is not a very viable option. Not if you have any belief in goodness--that the Universe is a good place. r It'll Be Alright<tm>

Ghs on the tounge-speekin' 'n fish-floppin': I have no doubt that you have this point-on, it makes perfect sense. And it made for really good church business, on a number of levels. We still have a good deal of this going on in Florida, and when you hear the (totally straight-laced generic 'Merikun) people talk about it, oh, you can just see it all. Miss Grundy flopping on the floor, wailing away and hiking up her skirt. I guess they have to do something to get those sticks out of their asses. rde And what's up with another sjw slappy fight? C'mon, not HERE.

I don't mean to call you a liar, but I find it impossible to believe your story. These go beyond the disputed stories about Caligula, which were spread by his enemies. I've met compulsive liars before, and have heard fantastical tales like you're telling here told to my face. It was always about getting attention. But if I'm wrong about you, well, sorry. Someone ought to tell you how your stories come across. Oh, this is not that unusual. Not at all.

That's where I was at with it. And if if was so traumatic, there is little comfort to be had, other, maybe, than thinking about all the people that went through even worse; and they are there. That you survive alone is sufficient. You will dwell. And then you will stop dwelling, gradually. It will come back just when you thought it left. But always better if you work at it. rde

I eagerly await, after you have worked, and of course, considered deeply. Changing the meaning of sex universally. K. Why fuck with perfection? That would be one thing. I figure you are either having too much of it, or too little. Balance is very important! I suppose boredom could be a possibility, but if so, that would be your fault, I think. Power tools? rde

Best post on the thread, Brant.

Best post on the thread, Brant.

Basic illustration of problem involving coming on OL anonymous: rde Expect Nothing Fucqing Less.

Depends upon what you call physical therapy. I'm planning on some in a few minutes, and I must say I'm looking fondly forward to it. rde heh

George's level of scholarly statistical density/accumulation first escaped him, but now saves him, because that is what that shit does. You can have 4000 books but you better know where the good passages are. This is very good work, George, at least in my opinion--in that your work proved itself. Proved itself by pre-existence alone. The WordStar thing was cutting it a bit close. Please tell me it wasn't on a soft floppy. Did you hold your magnet on it and scramble the words? Did you? Hmmm? May I see your papers, please? In the meantime, popcorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UCQShAm5vo&playnext=1&list=PL86DFEF4CD9652876 rde F**k that Indiana Mouthpiece-Thing Known as J**** PS: I will write the sig off to typos, were a bitch to ask me. PPS: George, will you sign a book for me if I promise to give you minor Daemon and Familiar Action, in advance? I am offering you advance services. If need be I will even wear a bad 3-piece suit and vomit single-malt scotch on you while channeling Clarence Darrow.

What do you think drove Jim to attack you like that initially? What could have been his motive? Here's my speculation (though George can guess better than I can): guilt and psychopathology. People who spew viciousness seemingly out of nowhere have issues, as they say. People with "issues" take them out on other people because they are unwilling to confront their own problems. So I see projection at the very least. If he feels guilty about stealing from George but is seriously messed up psychologically, he might very well turn on George like a rabid dog and accuse him of being the true bad person when in fact... I can also imagine several other Freudian scenarios if I am the least bit encouraged... All roads lead to self-esteem. rde Punishing Bad Monkeys since sometime back in the late eighties.

New slogan for the rabid fundamentalists: Extremism in the pursuit of idiocy is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of stupidity is no virtue. Ah haint know golldurn minkey. rde Coming soon, new fast food franchises for Emerging Urban Professionals! GORILLA TWIST<TM> & MONKEY FREEZE<TM> Yes, you can! You certainly can have a Steel Reserve and Pork Rind smoothie. We'll supersize it for you.

Yes, yes. It has breadth and depth. It is robust! Replete it is, with the Winds of Shit circling around in the background, occasionally pushing a hot, sick breeze at us. Truly, a work of Art<tm>. In tribute to It (and screwball attorneys everywhere), I have changed my avatar to "Inherit the Wind." Get your suspenders, start snappin' 'em! The Smith Monkey Trial. rde Heh.

Sorry I didn't edit that post myself, boys. I was out of town for two days and I just walked into it. rde

Hey, I noticed a recent absence of these weenie bitches. Do y'all think they will invoke, further? I'm figurin' they got at least one or two more in 'em. rde workin' on his ciphers, and figurin'.

Jokes are all about the delivery. So, one good way to start is to imagine yourself to be a ventriloquist dummy. If you think on it, these ventriloquist dummies are the ones that work harder than anyone in show business. Well, then there are lawyers. Oh, sure, I could do Lawyer Jokes. But the thing is, they are so (morbidly, or perhaps as sociopaths) funny by themselves, at least generally. All you have to do is watch them operate in the wild. Sure, most myths are based in fact. Lawyers, overall, on the other hand, tend to display some kind of near propetual motion that defies physics. Well, maybe not that but it is fairly clear that the breed mainly defies physics. There are exceptions. Sometimes they give you good advice. When we work with lawyers in Our Firm, they certainly aren't like the Dickweed In Question. rde On travel, but still right in there. Let's boogie, you filthy mouthpiece. Why? Because you are In Bat Co\untry, fucq-stick. PS I'd do a face-to-face with him. But he'd have to come down here. I have just the place. I'm not going Up North, Hell no. I could teach him Chinese Boxing, or something. Dot his eyes. <---NOTE Most sleazy attorneys would try to press assault on a line like that, and that is why they are so weak, those ones. I simply asked if he would like to travel down here for a sparring match. Just to qualify. I am getting up there a bit in age, but I am definitely up for street action, and that includes red faced, angry Irish lawers. You have to start somewhere, so I guess you could benefit from starting up with the important ones first, in terms of asshole-ness. And that is the Irish. The niggers of the white world, no? There's one for you, and I'm a Unitarian Universalist, a condition that does not preclude, er, "engagements." If need be.

Idea: Challenge J**** *. O*********, attorney from Indiana, to a best of 3 rounds traditional naked Greco Roman Wrestling match.

Earlier today on Atlantis 2, I suggested to Mr. J**** *. O********* that he discuss his allegations against me on this thread. Jim didn't say Yes or No explicitly; instead he replied: This sounds like a big NO! to me. Ghs I guess the wrinkled pussy jokes didn't fly all that well over there. Oh well. Yeah, that's me, the happily married misogynist. Douche factor= 96.875% with a bullet. rde Wah, wah, wah. P.S. Ghs, the personal story is knocking me out. I got right up close on this, but not nearly at that point. I had Italians chasing me for awhile, but that was years ago. But from the motel part, yeah. And all the trimmings. Sheesh. Gone days, thank heavens.

Taoism is a state of consciousness. It means "way." This might seem somewhat lightweight on the surface, but it is not. A very beautiful way to become familiar with it is to simply read the Tao Te Ching (Lao Tzu). I believe this is the core experience. There are many, but here is a clean link to read it (I got 1 from there): http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/core9/phalsall/texts/taote-v3.html I have read it so many times over the years. Actually, I am glad you have brought this up because otherwise I would not have re-visited it. It is always great to read. Don't mind the hyenas if they come after you for bringing it up. There are many different hard copies out there. I like this one very, very much: http://www.amazon.com/Ching-25th-Anniversary-English-Mandarin-Chinese/dp/0679776192/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1309230263&sr=1-3 Domo! rde

It's not in the precise context, but I figure its intermission time and this is close enough to convey the feeling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfmB-8onoMo Then I was thinking (which is almost always a bad thing) about George's tale of motel woe, and for that matter, my own. In my case, the girl in question happens to be the sister of one of the guys that wrote and sang on this oldie but goodie. Detect the slight irony, and mild spelling difference. Hey, I can't always hit bulls-eyes but I always get in the circle: rde We need a popcorn machine.

This makes perfect sense to me.

He never returned his RSVP. And I was going to have the really good cucumber sandwiches and the freshest oolong. Cucumber sandwiches and oolong!!! Aaah - we must tell it to Tony aka WhyNot, he loves that! Let's have the tea party anyway since the tea party we wanted to throw at Riggenbach's somehow fell flat. http://www.objectivi...49 Swing party at Wendy's house. rde Dousing self with Hai Karate in hopes of some Wild Action<tm>