william.scherk Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, tmj said: The article /slideshow kept crashing toward the end. It might be heavy going for an older computer or one with a slow/small memory. The material is also available without the animations at the link in the bolded sentence below Quote In the graphics that follow, Scientific American presents detailed explanations, current as of mid-June, into how SARS-CoV-2 sneaks inside human cells, makes copies of itself and bursts out to infiltrate many more cells, widening infection. We show how the immune system would normally attempt to neutralize virus particles and how CoV-2 can block that effort. We explain some of the virus's surprising abilities, such as its capacity to proofread new virus copies as they are being made to prevent mutations that could destroy them. And we show how drugs and vaccines might still be able to overcome the intruders. As virologists learn more, we will update these graphics on our Web site (www.scientificamerican.com). For a static version of this content as it appears in the July 2020 issue of Scientific American, please click here. Quote Did they discuss furin? It’s speculated that this particular virus has seemingly “corrected” encoding that enables cleaving with human furin , which is weird because bat proteins are different. Do you have some cites to share for furin speculation? Quote Regardless the origins of this virus , it seems the biological threat is nothing compared to political/governmental threat to life.(not to mention liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the stuff of life ). Weird , right? Our commie equivalent in Canadian foundation-documents is "peace, order, and good government." Here in British Columbia, we are three weeks into the third of four stages of reopening, with relatively small numbers of 'new' cases recorded, and with daily deaths 'dying out,' at least within our confines. There is still a closed-to-all-but-essentials border with the USA and travel bans with various countries. We aren't at the height of vigilance and public health orders. Kids are now back in the playgrounds, at school, on the streets, with adults at restaurants, beaches, campsites and parks. Ridership on Vancouver transit and 'marine highway' provincial ferries is rebounding from a total crash. We get 'guidelines' depending on community. No government is mandating masks province-wide or in a particular municipality or region, for example, but at the same time we are expected to obey rules in businesses large and small, to use our best informed personal judgement otherwise. We still get the same advice as ever to reduce so-called community transmission; plus have an individual plan informed by safety. Some places are very touchy/fearful about 'outsiders' coming into their communities from 'away' -- notably healthy-but-vulnerable places (eg, Haida Gwaii). We are very touchy about people coming into our household, since we have an 83 year old in the comfy chair. Nothing is 'normal,' not yet. COVID19 is with us still in BC, albeit at a (comparatively) low level. The province's economic engines are not roaring, especially tourism/travel and the film/media industries. -- as you mentioned bat proteins, you might be interested in a brief story from Knowable Magazine: From the earlier cited Scientific American page, with emphasis added. This might offer a means to understand differences between the novel coronavirus and other similar or related viruses from the larger family ... Edited July 10, 2020 by william.scherk Added screengrab, bat-virus link, spellink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said: Ellen Thanks, I understand proofreading. Now tmj will post a classic tv segment on how a Bill becomes Law. Billy does not understand proofreading and tends to breathlessly repost fear porn he doesn't understand at all, like that headline that leads 99% of readers to believe "covid" has some super-novel ability that is new to modern science and very scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I just googled around a little bit after hearing Yuri Deigin on Bret Weinstein’s Darkhorse podcast. The article posted was a very generic overview of viral basics, no discussion about this particular viral infection. Viruses are rather ‘host’ specific , given the number of viruses ones that can ‘jump’ from one species to another and thrive are ‘special’. The circumstances that allow those situations are scientifically interesting, no ? More so than an article on how a virus works? What did you find so interesting about the Sci Am piece, enough to help guide attention to it ?( I did glean a little , Golgi’s apparatus has seemingly been elevated to a complex, so there was that ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 1:17 PM, Jon Letendre said: Too bad how the Scamdemic brainwashing is no longer working. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/college-students-busted-throwing-covid-19-parties-infect-all-their-friends These kids understand that if there is any actual bug at all, it is a variant of the common cold. https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/texas-millennial-dies-after-attending-covid-19-party/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Stuttle Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 1:17 PM, Jon Letendre said: These kids understand that if there is any actual bug at all, it is a variant of the common cold. There's an actual bug, and it's no more "a variant of the common cold" because it's a coronavirus, as are several viruses which produce common cold symptoms, than a horse is a variant of a cow because, like a cow, a horse is an ungulate. Ellen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said: There's an actual bug, and it's no more "a variant of the common cold" because it's a coronavirus, as are several viruses which produce common cold symptoms, than a horse is a variant of a cow because, like a cow, a horse is an ungulate. Ellen Wrong. Bad cold is a great description. Fauci and many other doctors compare it to a flu, knowing full well that influenzas are not even coronas, whereas both "covid" and all common colds ARE coronas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 hours ago, merjet said: https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/texas-millennial-dies-after-attending-covid-19-party/ Worthless fearporn from start to finish. I don't believe a word of it, no one should. They get caught with their full morgue stories, their "perfectly healthy 30 year old" stories, who turn out to anything but, when they "died from" corona. You really do gobble this bullshit up, don't you? You believe it could kill anyone because you found a story claiming a 30 year old died by underestimating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 You guys, I think I'm starting to cry. Look at his last words. He got this sentence out "moments before passing away." " ‘I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not,' " That's hard-hitting objective journalism in the age of the Great 2020 Scamdemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 "Bad cold" is exaggeration for the vast majority of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jon Letendre Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 hours ago, merjet said: https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/texas-millennial-dies-after-attending-covid-19-party/ Dr. Jane Appleby is chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, and her specialties, all her experience from what I can see, is in hospice and palliative care. This is far from a perfect analogy, but is that not like putting a controlled demolition ace in charge of construction projects? Maybe they can do it, but why pass up all the lifelong construction aces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 In hospice they dope you up into an insensate condition then deprive you of all fluids and you are murdered in several days through dehydration. --Brant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Jon Letendre said: Dr. Jane Appleby is chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, and her specialties, all her experience from what I can see, is in hospice and palliative care. This is far from a perfect analogy, but is that not like putting a controlled demolition ace in charge of construction projects? Maybe they can do it, but why pass up all the lifelong construction aces? Just what did he die of since the virus is not a disease? Notice how they used the plural when talking about one person? So how many people at the party died? The cause of death from the virus is supposedly pneumonia. Did he die from that? --Brant boy, am I tired of all the un-scientific gobbledygook that these people feed the public and themselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Jon Letendre said: both "covid" and all common colds ARE coronas. False. The rhinovirus is "the predominant cause of the common cold." 15 hours ago, Jon Letendre said: Dr. Jane Appleby is chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, and her specialties, all her experience from what I can see, is in hospice and palliative care. This is far from a perfect analogy, but is that not like putting a controlled demolition ace in charge of construction projects? Maybe they can do it, but why pass up all the lifelong construction aces? Dr. Appleby was the spokesperson. That the man who died was her patient is your leap of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 hours ago, merjet said: False. The rhinovirus is "the predominant cause of the common cold." Dr. Appleby was the spokesperson. That the man who died was her patient is your leap of faith. Lots of things can cause what the affected calls "a cold," even influenza viruses. "Unknown" seems to be the second largest cause of colds. But, fine, rhinoviruses cause more colds than coronas cause. Why do you imagine I think she was his doctor? "Spokesperson"?! She is the corporate medical officer of the hospital, so I am aware she was most likely not his doctor. Brant had no trouble understanding the point. Maybe the difference is he tries to understand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 President Trump retweeted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Let us pray... Ugh... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 17 hours ago, Jon Letendre said: Why do you imagine I think she was his doctor? "Spokesperson"?! She is the corporate medical officer of the hospital, so I am aware she was most likely not his doctor. Brant had no trouble understanding the point. Maybe the difference is he tries to understand? LOL. If you thought she wasn't his doctor, then your commenting on her specialty makes no sense. LOL. He didn't read between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 20 hours ago, Jon Letendre said: Lots of things can cause what the affected calls "a cold," even influenza viruses. "Unknown" seems to be the second largest cause of colds. But, fine, rhinoviruses cause more colds than coronas cause. Jon, I have a cure for the common cold. Masks. And shut down everything. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Stuttle Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 1:49 PM, Jon Letendre said: Wrong. Bad cold is a great description. Fauci and many other doctors compare it to a flu, knowing full well that influenzas are not even coronas, whereas both "covid" and all common colds ARE coronas. "Bad cold" is rhetorical slop if you're talking about a severe case. "Flu" is a reasonable comparison in terms of locale (lower respiratory), symptomatology, and course. The best comparison for a severe case is to the original SARS, which is why this bug was first called "SARS-CoV-2." You've evidently caught up to the erroneousness of your statement that "all common colds ARE coronas." Ellen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said: "Bad cold" is rhetorical slop if you're talking about a severe case. "Flu" is a reasonable comparison in terms of locale (lower respiratory), symptomatology, and course. The best comparison for a severe case is to the original SARS, which is why this bug was first called "SARS-CoV-2." You've evidently caught up to the erroneousness of your statement that "all common colds ARE coronas." Ellen I wasn't talking about a severe case. When I once referenced the very rare severe case I said it then killed like the plague. I have caught up, thanks. Now I know even an influenza virus can cause the common cold and I am even more confident that covid, if it really exists, has caused lots of colds. In all of this what's-the-best-name and categorizing gotcha technical bullshit is the little problem that some people want to keep our society shut down over a bad cold the elites can't stop lying to us about and that is not working at all for the rest of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Very mild cold is probably most accurate, when it succeeds in infecting at all, for the vast majority of people. If it exists at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 All they have is lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 How a false hydroxychloroquine narrative was created 36 ways and counting by Meryl Nass, M.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Mark said: How a false hydroxychloroquine narrative was created 36 ways and counting by Meryl Nass, M.D. Jesus H. Christ! --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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