Deep State Unraveling

[ThatGuy]

This is the first time I've ever even heard of this...gee, I wonder why...
 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/susan-rosenberg-left-wing-domestic-extremism-roots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg

[Peter]

28 minutes ago, Peter said:

I want HISTORY to be written from facts.

What is history, if it is not truthful? What if we had not had courageous immigrants like Ayn Rand to speak the truth and testify against propaganda? Peter

Notes. Condensed and edited for brevity. Ayn Rand's HUAC Testimony . . . .  Ayn Rand, on the other hand, was among the "friendly" witnesses who cooperated with the committee. Along with various others -- including studio heads Jack Warner and Louis B. Mayer, and actors Gary Cooper, Robert Montgomery, Ronald Reagan, and Robert Taylor -- Rand agreed to testify about Communist influence on Hollywood movies. Rand's testimony, like that of the other friendly witnesses, was given prior to the debacle of the "Hollywood Ten."

. . . . Rand: Yes. First of all I would like to define what we mean by propaganda. We have all been talking about it, but nobody --

Stripling: Could you talk into the microphone?

Rand: Can you hear me now? Nobody has stated just what they mean by propaganda. Now, I use the term to mean that Communist propaganda is anything which gives a good impression of communism as a way of life. Anything that sells people the idea that life in Russia is good and that people are free and happy would be Communist propaganda. Am I not correct? I mean, would that be a fair statement to make -- that that would be Communist propaganda? Now, here is what the picture Song of Russia contains. It starts with an American conductor, played by Robert Taylor, giving a concert in America for Russian war relief. He starts playing the American national anthem and the national anthem dissolves into a Russian mob, with the sickle and hammer on a red flag very prominent above their heads. I am sorry, but that made me sick. That is something which I do not see how native Americans permit, and I am only a naturalized American. That was a terrible touch of propaganda. As a writer, I can tell you just exactly what it suggests to the people. It suggests literally and technically that it is quite all right for the American national anthem to dissolve into the Soviet. The term here is more than just technical. It really was symbolically intended, and it worked out that way. The anthem continues, played by a Soviet band. That is the beginning of the picture.

. . . . Suddenly there is a Nazi attack on them. The poor, sweet Russians were unprepared. Now, realize -- and that was a great shock to me -- that the border that was being shown was the border of Poland. That was the border of an occupied, destroyed, enslaved country which Hitler and Stalin destroyed together. That was the border that was being shown to us -- just a happy place with people listening to music. Also realize that when all this sweetness and light was going on in the first part of the picture, with all these happy, free people, there was not a GPU agent among them, with no food lines, no persecution -- complete freedom and happiness, with everybody smiling. Incidentally, I have never seen so much smiling in my life, except on the murals of the world's fair pavilion of the Soviets . . . .

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

39 minutes ago, Peter said:

I want HISTORY to be written from facts.

Peter, 

Then it's a good idea to make sure the history you present has relevant facts, not just spin by omission.

For example, instead of saying the people who died included, "a military vet who was shot," you could have said "a military vet, Ashli Babbitt, who was targeted and shot by a Capitol Police officer without warning while passing unarmed through a broken door." That is not only factual, it's right there on the several videos documenting it. I know this because I saw them.

Or instead of saying, "a cop who collapsed while fending off rioters," you could have said, "a Capitol Hill Police Officer, Brian Sickwick, who died from suffering strokes in the middle of the chaos." That is far more factual than "fending off rioters." I say this because I recall seeing different angles of his collapse and it was not during "fending off rioters." 

But, to be fair, I am not as clear about those videos since I was not too interested at the time I saw them. I remember a little bit of shoving typical to crowd-activity, but nothing like "fending off rioters." (I recall the fake news media lying their asses off saying he was grabbed, drug into a mob and pummeled over the head with weapons, but that's them.) I would prefer to check those videos to be sure, though. And, of course, nowadays, you can't find those videos on the search engines.

And so on.

If you demand facts from others when they present history, it's only fair to present facts yourself--or, at least a tone of neutrality when relating facts--when you present history.

Each way of telling the same story--your way and mine--tells two different stories.

Also, if you ever expect to get facts--and not just goosed up gossip--from a Congressional commission to investigate anything, you are going to be in for a long wait.

 

Michael

[william.scherk]

When first nations pay for their own ground-penetrating radar.

On 4/20/2021 at 12:51 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

On 4/19/2021 at 2:03 PM, caroljane said:

I don't think we really need to see heaps of dead bodies with our own eyes to know what evil is and how close it is to everyone, everywhere.

I think you do. Otherwise, you would not preach policies that always result in piles of dead bodies after the process unfolds.

And even though I know you think "piles of dead bodies" is evil, I don't think you believe it would ever happen in Canada because, well, Canada. And because Canada is Canada and a metaphor for more awesome than others, this time socialism (the evil policies) will turn out differently. 

Trudeau asks for lowered flags to honour dead residential schoolchildren

The chief in Kamloops spoke of "the knowing" -- community stories recounted of disappearred children. It's like a haunting ...

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The band has begun reaching out to other First Nations across Western Canada that might have had children sent to the school who never returned home.

Casimir said what the nation called “the knowing” about the missing children fuelled the search.

Her mother and grandmother shared stories of abuse at the school and Casimir said the community has pushed for answers on what happened to the students.

"It's a harsh reality and it's our truths. It's our history and it's something we've always had to fight to prove."

The results are preliminary with a final report expected at the end of June, but more remains could be discovered, she added.

The BC Coroners Service has been notified and more work will be carried out on the site.

[...]

That a church-run school under the Indian Act would not, could not, did not record deaths of its charges, nor offer Christian burial ...

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

10 hours ago, william.scherk said:

When first nations pay for their own ground-penetrating radar.

William,

I missed that comment.

That was one of the most objective ideas I have seen you come up with to cut through the bullshit and get something real going to fix genocide or large-scale slaughter, especially by governments and large evil organizations.

(I was going to say one of the most penetrating comments, but I kept groaning, so I let it go.  )

Seriously, that's a really cool idea: come up with a human bone-detecting radar or something to find the hidden piles of dead bodies. Not just in first world countries, either. Everywhere.

That is one case of surveillance I believe is meet and just.

Michael

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

If anyone wants to see the kind of stuff I look at when I look at the Q-and-fellow-traveler side, the video below is a great example.

I tend to believe these people (not in everything), but I have no way of verifying it. So I just listen and look around. Listen to other people and look around. And so on. Hell, I even listen to lefties like Jimmy Dore and look around.

Mel K is cool. She used to work in Hollywood and is now an emerging celebrity within the Christian patriot movement. I don't know anything about David Rodriguez, but he sounds like someone who recently got into this stuff and leans a little bit too heavy on the gullible side, although he also seems open to self-correction.

Normally I don't see anger in these videos, but David sounds pissed at moments.

MEL K & DAVID RODRIGUEZ DIG INTO GEOPOLITICAL NEWS - BIG BOOMS - HANG ON PATRIOTS 5-29-2021

Off the top of my head, here is the gist of what they are saying.

1. Remember the recent story about Belarus grounding an airplane to arrest a dissident blogger? Apparently, there was an assassination attempt in Belarus last week along with a coup attempt (funded by Soros and related), and the blogger was the assassin.

(From what I have read, the Deep State intelligence people are up to their eyeballs in this.) 

They also said this Belarus coup attempt is part of a lot of "color revolutions" and coups taking place across the world all bearing the same characteristics--the same people are involved in all of them. Myanmar trouble is in the same category, although this "coup" was against a fraudulent election like what happened in the US 2020 election.

2. They claim that there are lots of people being taken by the military or some other organization operating covertly to stop the one-world government or globalism people. The idea is that the bad guys are being rounded up quietly--the world over--and jailed somewhere. They even hold that the ship that got jammed in the Panama Canal was due to these renditions (to coin a term  ).

I don't recall Mel or David saying the following name, but people who think this way often ask if anybody has heard from James Comey these days? Or someone else on the Deep State side who used to be constantly in the headlines. 

3. They believe the American government is being continued covertly and Trump is still in charge.

4. Mel and David predicted much of the covert stuff will be revealed and major action will unfold somewhere between August and the middle of October, including the dismissal of the Biden junta.

 

I could go on, but this is a gist. I find it fascinating to listen to this stuff, even when I disagree with it. These are not stupid people or backwater fanatics. They are intelligent and skilled people in many areas.

Now here's an interesting point I did on purpose. The video between Mel and David is not a particularly good one. I'm not interested in wowing anyone with this. I'm showing a slice of an everyday discussion. When you hear it, you are not getting an Alex Jones performance. Just normal people talking normally and, frankly, having a good time.

I don't know about David, but Mel is in touch with huge numbers of military and law enforcement personnel. I'm talking about Special Ops level people. (On a different front, Steve Bannon had some retired generals on recently. He's coming at the Deep State from a different angle, but he doesn't bash people like Mel K, Charlie Ward, etc.)

So it doesn't matter if I believe what they are saying. The important part is that huge numbers of people believe it, including people in the military and law enforcement.

 

A different point

One of the reasons I really like Mel K is that she said something a couple of months ago I resonate with a lot. She was talking about how the pro-Trump patriot side sometimes gets things wrong and often there are competing theories, etc.

She said it's OK to be wrong. Everybody is communicating in the fog of war right now, so obviously there will be wrong things. The important part is to get your honest thoughts out there in the public to let others know they are not alone. And let others check your positions.

The alternative is to embrace the uniform mainstream narratives from the fake news and propaganda machine.

So it's OK to be wrong. But that means, also, that it's OK to be right. This is the honing process for the truth to emerge.

I agree with that 100%.

For those interested, enjoy.

Michael

[ThatGuy]

"Ermagawd! They dropped the investigation into the Capital Riot! This is terrible! The truth must be told! REEEEE!!!!!"

Meanwhile..."U.S. Embassies, Consulates Worldwide Fly ‘Black Lives Matter’ Flag".

(If you're crying about the former, but  excuse or ignore the latter, you just might be whipped by the MSM.)

PHOTOS: U.S. Embassies, Consulates Worldwide Fly ‘Black Lives Matter’ Flag

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/30/photos-u-s-embassies-consulates-worldwide-fly-black-lives-matter-flag-blm/

[ThatGuy]

(And for those who still harbor delusions about the nature of BLM...)

"Founder of Black Lives Matter chapter reveals he left org after learning 'the ugly truth' about BLM"

https://www.theblaze.com/news/blm-chapter-founder-reveals-ugly-truth

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

2. They claim that there are lots of people being taken by the military or some other organization operating covertly to stop the one-world government or globalism people. The idea is that the bad guys are being rounded up quietly--the world over--and jailed somewhere. They even hold that the ship that got jammed in the Panama Canal was due to these renditions...

I forgot to mention something about this.

Since these are famous or prominent people in their fields who are disappearing, at first I felt the pattern more than recognized it. Now I see it clearly.

This is Atlas Shrugged in reverse. Instead of the good guys slowly disappearing, the bad guys are.

If it is true that these prominent bad guys are being taken, I wonder if AS gave the pattern for the strategy. I know the people who are on that side of the line generally like Ayn Rand...

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Just for the record to make the bad guys sweat a little more.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I want to get back to Lin Wood for a minute.

He had to back off because the time was not right for him and he got the idea to run for a political position.

But here's the thing. If you tell truth against a raging mob, no one will hear you. Once the mob sees the issue and you get back in front of them, that makes all the difference in the world.

In the raging mob context, you will be pilloried and your reputation might take decades to recover. In the other, you will be hailed as a hero.

I think Trump knows this and knows it well. Which, I believe, is why Trump did not support Lin at the time. 

Lin is a legal mind of the topmost order and a man of exceptional integrity. He is not a good political strategist. He thinks in battles, not wars. (btw - In battles, he is fearless. I admire him enormously.)

Lin has been on a campaign against Mike Pence. I believe he is right, too, but I can't verify it. So I have to wait and see.

However, it is not lost on me that Fauci and Brix were Pence creatures when he was overseeing Operation Warp Speed.

Take a look at how that is now turning out. And watch as Pence's name starts emerging.

So I believe really good things are in store for Lin Wood in the Trump universe. That time will come.

Michael

[william.scherk]

On 6/3/2021 at 8:40 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Lin is a legal mind of the topmost order and a man of exceptional integrity. He is not a good political strategist. He thinks in battles, not wars. (btw - In battles, he is fearless. I admire him enormously.)

Lin has been on a campaign against Mike Pence. I believe he is right, too, but I can't verify it.

One of the YouTube channels I subscribe to has been posting various speeches from Lin Wood, Sidney  Powell and Michael Flynn.

In the latest video uploaded, Lin Wood covers a fair bit of ground. Although he doesn't repeat the bizarre canard about Pence's Luciferian pedophile nature in this one, you get some Rothschilds and House of Windsor and Vatican demonology, and tales of Adrenochrome harvesting.

For fans and non-fans alike:

(35) Lin Wood Speaks!!! - YouTube

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Through the lens of the Deep State, Epstein, and so on, this is a very interesting tweet.

 

Michael

[william.scherk]

On 6/6/2021 at 3:12 PM, william.scherk said:

One of the YouTube channels I subscribe to has been posting various speeches from Lin Wood, Sidney  Powell and Michael Flynn.

In re L Lin Wood's lawsuit against the State Bar of Georgia ...

I haven't yet checked Wood's Telegram channel for reaction.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Another Clinton dead body story.

BREAKING: Reporter Who Broke Clinton-Lynch Tarmac Story Found DEAD in His Apartment

He was suicided.

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The ABC journalist who broke the infamous story about the 2016 tarmac meeting between Bill Clinton and then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch has been found dead in his apartment.

The body of Christopher Sign, 45, was found in his Birmingham, Alabama apartment on Saturday morning around 8 a.m. His death is being investigated as a suicide, according to police Lt. Keith Czeskleba.

Rush Limbaugh once asked a question that never left me.

He said we all have people we know who have died. But how many of us have known or been involved with people who have committed suicide or have been murdered?

In my life, there are precious few, and only then because of my dark days in Brazil bopping around places I had no business bopping around.

Most people don't know of anyone.

Bring it to the current situation. How many people around Trump have committed suicide or have been murdered?

I'm sure there are a few, him being famous and all, but off the top of my head, I can't think of any. 

Now look at the Clintons. There is a huge list of such people. It's a famous list on the Internet. And every one of the people on it either damaged the Clintons or their interests in some manner, of the Clintons benefitted.

Does that make any sense as coincidence?

Hell no.

In Brazil, they say if you see a turtle in a tree, you can be certain that someone put it there.

Michael

[william.scherk]

9 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

He was suicided.

How? How does that work?

[Peter]

1 hour ago, william.scherk said:

How? How does that work?

Ask Tony Soprano. No it's not spelled Tonie Saprono.   

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

6 hours ago, william.scherk said:

How? How does that work?

William,

Peter got it right. Gangster term. Murdered and made to look like a suicide.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This was like taking a bath.

Man, did this guy rip the hell out of a Pennsylvania school board and even got the person in charge to back down as he gave a lesson in the civics of free speech.

This is the stuff that is taking down the Deep State.

What a moment!

This is one of those things that will spread.

I bet YouTube doesn't take this one down. But if it does, I will find another.

btw - Here's an article so you can read more if you like.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Apparently, the outer edges of the Deep State can't stand the Deep State any longer. The cracks in the dam are appearing.

Michael

[ThatGuy]

Not exactly sure WHERE to put this, but here goes...
John Mcafee found dead in prison cell...
 

https://www.rt.com/news/527411-mcafee-dead-reports-spain-prison/

[ThatGuy]

 

[Peter]

That is horrible news TG. He was 75, so it could have been natural causes . . . but this is getting to be a pattern. 

edit. I saw John McAfee was dealing in crypto currencies. Here is a wild theory. “His prison friends” that he mentioned helped him to plan a fake death, and now he is on the loose, thanks to his big bucks and bitcoins. HIs body? Oh, it was lost or cremated. I remember a documentary on him and he had at least two mistresses and abodes in Central America. 

edit. edit. It sounds planned. Wikipedia already has his day of death listed as today, June 23, 2021. Maybe!?

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I am a fan of John McAfee, not because I agree with everything he said and did. I disagree with a lot. But he was a rebel trickster who constantly got the oligarchy wound up on a hamster wheel until their drugs wore off.

If his death is fact, that would make me sad. But before I accept it as fact, I want to wait a bit. Everything about McAfee always had a plot twist.

The tweet below shows one plausibility.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Then there's this.

Letter ‘Q’ Posted to John McAfee’s Instagram Account, Hours After His Death

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John McAfee was found dead in a Spanish prison cell on Wednesday, but the letter “Q” was posted to his Instagram account hours after his death.
McAfee’s wife, Janice, is believed to have posted to his accounts for him while he was imprisoned — but it is currently unclear who has access or posted the cryptic “Q.”

There was no caption or explanation with the photo.

Michael