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One person whose opinions I wish we could consult right now is the founder of Objectivism. Having a cold eye on the Soviet Union, a cold eye for any unfree state, a cold eye for dictatorships, Ayn Rand would likely be able to add moral clarity to the 'debates' about Russia Russia Russia.

A  couple of folks here have contended that Rand would be enamoured of Donald Trump, a notion I find preposterous. But I could be very wrong.

What to learn about Russian goals when you don't really care [updated]



One of the items I fish out of the general Russia Russia Russia hoopla is geopolitical strategy. In other words, setting aside the unproven allegations of the Trump-Russia 'collusion' grab-bag, and putting to one side the actual details of the "Russia hack" of the 2016 US presidential election -- leaving the residual "what is this administration's larger strategy with regard to Russia, its hopes and fears, its ambitions."

This is no easy task. The election campaign revealed just a few rules of thumb that a Trump administration would use in a new relationship. 

Each of us will have an impression of just what President Trump hopes to achieve in relation to Russia between now and 2020. For me, having studied utterances of Michael Flynn and the many Russia/Putin statements from the president, it is to "get along," to cooperate where it serves American interests, and perhaps to let Russia back in from the cold by removing sanctions where appropriate. In an sense, it is a desire to move the 'deep state' off its suspicious foundations in order to make a better partnership with the Eurasian nuclear power. 

(the 'deep state' I envision as the intersection of established policy [of the executive branch, including national security agencies] and law [from the legislature]; it is the entrenched state of affairs, the 'ship of state' -- a vehicle of praxis built up over time. The 'deep state' of course takes its orders not from a shadowy cartel, but from department policy as written, intelligence findings as transmitted, and law. Law as in the welter of official acts and regulations, eg, Magnitsky-related sanctions. The 'deep state' vehicle can be refitted and given new missions, but this takes time, time to install new commanders with clear mission statements, time to legislate and decree a change in direction, speed, goal and targets)

Having established their own briefs on facts and values, strategy and intelligence, law and practice, OLers might like me might have asked themselves the same set of questions -- not of the American 'vehicle' commanded by President Trump, but of the Russian ship of state.

What Russia wants.

-- that boring introduction done, here is a well-written analysis of Russian imperatives:

Russia’s Evolving Grand Eurasia Strategy: Will It Work?

NB: at 4200 words the article is not light reading.  But I suspect readers will be better able to answer the question "What is a proper Russia policy for the USA?" 

One person whose opinions I wish we could consult right now is the founder of Objectivism. Having a cold eye on the Soviet Union, a cold eye for any unfree state, a cold eye for dictatorships, Ayn Rand would likely be able to add moral clarity to the 'debates' about Russia Russia Russia.

A  couple of folks here have contended that Rand would be enamored of Donald Trump, a notion I find preposterous. But I could be very wrong.

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On 8/29/2018 at 10:37 AM, Jon Letendre said:

Censoring moron.

Jon, you are welcome to post your opinions here, if you can manage to curb the personal insults.  If you can't then I will delete your bullshit.  Fair -- or did you want a special dispensation for name-calling?

On 8/29/2018 at 10:39 AM, Jon Letendre said:

Weak censoring little pussy.

Tell us more.

On 8/29/2018 at 10:40 AM, Jon Letendre said:

Russia! [censor button] Russia!! [censor button] Russia!!! [censor button]


Right. I suggest decaf.

On 8/29/2018 at 10:56 AM, Jon Letendre said:

Oh no!

Russia hacked Jonathan!

The sky is falling!

Impeach Trump!

I am going to put a Hex on you ... 


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Dudeperson, the choice is yours. Write something not expectorating spittle and insult ... and stick around commenting at this OL blog.  You might want to read up on How to Disagree without being Disagreeable.

8 minutes ago, Jon Letendre said:
59 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

If you cannot post other than insult, your "input" is not welcome here. "Muh Pedophile Sheriff Badge" notwithstanding. 

Go fuck yourself.



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2 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

“I am going to put a Hex on you ...”

I have actually suspected that about you.

Hiw long have you been practicing?

" ... because you're mine ..." adapted from a well-known song lyric. I put a spell on you, Jon, because you're mine.  I am not ready to destroy hopes of a rational-exchange relationship.

Interesting that you suspected I would fiddle with hex hoohaw (I have studied folkways and so can recognize Old Order barn markings and such). The closest I came to hexing was being asked to leave a women's solstice celebration when I could not contain my laughter nor restrain that of my friends. That was just after they began their embarrassing freshly-written circle of life 'rituals.'  The ideas might have been okay, but it needed the fine tuning of a couple of hundred years trial and error. I came to think that our laughter gave them an error reading.

The only kind of spell  I can hope takes hold would be in my readers -- how can I put it -- to draw them into a world of wonder. Once I was a singer-performer and so the whole package was mine to work: exude as much charisma as acting classes taught you how to fake.  Write lyrics and melodies that could sustain a mood. Pretend to be someone the audience could be fascinated by.

Here is  post-performative-years live-action example from home, where I hexed an entire bus-stop bench. Originally from an OL backstage plot entitled "Luciferian Study Group" which you are not yet invited to:

On 8/20/2018 at 4:04 PM, william.scherk said:


Chillliwack is one of those places with three speeds. Urban slow, slower, and 'every encounter is a chance to talk.'  I swear.  The sidewalk outside south leads from a warren of 85 lowslung freehold gated lots on native reserve land (they are canny, yes) as well as from a bloc of semi-luxurious four-storey condos with giant balconies looming to the east, also on Tzeachten 13. The sidewalk leads to the most congested intersection in the south of the city, where Starbucks just expanded its 24 hour drive-through.

On that sidewalk a good fifty percent will think it wise to say good morning or whatever, and often introduce themselves and their place in the universe.  It is a way different kind of friendly-chatty from Montreal.  In Montreal it was as if every second glance was an appraisal.  In Toronto the non-verbal glance-greeting would be "what does this nitwit do for a living?" in Montreal, "I wonder where she got that top." In Chilliwack, "what an ugly dog."

The slowest of urban-rural slows I experienced was in Mackenzie, BC, where the craft-hardware store was apparently also the stage for Story Telling Afternoon. Basically, each customer in the line-up had to wait for the person in front to finish their act.  The nearby Greyhound stop/freight office/laundromat/Keno club/soup and sandwich place was in relative contrast much more brisk and Parisian.  Ya gotta wear a lotta hats.

I learned more sophistication in small-town BC and Alberta than I did anywhere else in my bush years. If you can talk to anybody, you are either the Queen, a con-man, or by extension a small-town Canadian in the West.

-- real-life example: last week returning from a roundtrip to White Rock, my bike and I were parked at a busstop by the big mall. It had three Singhs, one Wang, two Bob Marleys aunt and nephew, me, and a dark-browed scowly brute stalking back and forth past the bus-bench party in evident mood.  He was dressed in black from tip to toe.

The eldest Singh did a dumbshow to let me know he had been at the wrong busstop. I explained in dumbshow that my last bus had been delayed by insane traffic and cranky passengers wilting in the smog, some of whom had dropped their lunchbuckets and threatened each other with circumstances.

The right Singh bus came by and scooped up the walker-bound elder and then Scowly seemed to think I was the Premier and asked me how long before our bus came. I said, 120 seconds. Go.

He ran across the six lanes of insane Chilliwack mall crossroads traffic and from what I could see was gesticulating.  The bus pulled in and hissed out its brakes so I asked the driver how long he would wait. He said a minute and I pointed to Scowly in his line of vision. Beat.

Dark Scowls made it back and on the bus, and after a moment of thanks, began his seven and half minute Life Story.  I feel like I made a friend. He was a handsome Jiffy Lube technician working extra shifts to pay for a loan from his employer to set up a new household with his girlfriend where they would be free of the in-laws who punched him, called the police, and ruined a few months of his life. He was from Cape Breton, raised in Alberta, and I even learned about the retirement of his parents and their renovation of a motel on the cape.

What I learned on OL over the years is that human affinity will sometimes overrule political and cultural differences.  It really is possible to appreciate people although a gulf may separate you in some way.


Being atheist, I don't grant agency to wishes, hopes, fantasies, stick-pins in dolls, hex images, evil-eyes, prayer or other hopey rituals -- at least when they lead to no other supportive behaviour. I mean, pray for rain, right? Operate some persuasive juju beyond the pins, incantations, large-bottomed trots around the circle. I had never been cruel about satanic cult conspiracy beliefs until I confronted Judith Peterson and Peter Barach, as well as the later-exposed Diana Louisa Napolis.

The best anyone can do to Hex another is to approach it in a holistic-communication manner, and build a cult.  I mean, there was one guy who followed my band from gig to gig for a year. He had watched me perform and convinced himself I was a Christ-inspired person. He gave me gifts like a cross t-shirt and told me he knew he was right when there was a photo of me in the Georgia Straight with my arms outstretched per Christ. He was weird but nice and not grabby, so I didn't consider him a stalker, just a bit deluded. He told me he listened to our records for my 'songs of faith' which was quite odd but instructive.  He did inspire a later blue-grass tinged song, "Succumb to It."  It is about the most powerful cult in the world, the one that gives itself entirely to another, the cult of one, You, if you let your self go.

As for my showboaty nature, I was fairly adept at swinging my arms around dramatically and doing some very fast shuffle steps. The arms-out-Jesus spell on buddy notwithstanding.

I mean, since the days of Antigone all the way up past Totie Fields to Donald J Trump, what more common gesture could there be from a showman? I ask you.


Here is an open door to another cultish world of belief, that of "targeted individuals."  Somebody put a hex on these folks and I think it was self-inflicted.

For a more creepy-albeit-restful version of my hex on Jon, the American genius of Nina Simone.

How much of the Southern Gothic strains of popular music was borne from this mournful hope sung by Nina Simone, this mood of power, menace, woman deceived?  Even the great Adele owes something to Southern Gothic, especially in the terrific Rolling in the Deep.



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Resuming normal programming ...

On 8/30/2018 at 8:10 AM, william.scherk said:
On 8/29/2018 at 6:44 PM, Jon Letendre said:

fuck you, asshole.


Here's a featured video from the Russian state broadcaster.  The head of the network interviews the two suspects in the Skripal novichok nerve-agent attack.  The two gents shown below identify themselves as the two seen in CCTV tapes from Salisbury.  I won't give away the gen, but ask yourself when viewing this .... do you believe their tale?

Once you have digested that, let me know if you want to read Bellingcat reporting on the Russian story ...

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Bellingcat and partners' diligent research has turned up evidence that Putin gave one of the Skripal Novichok 'visiting Salisbury' fellows a state award under his real identity ...

Skripal Suspect Boshirov Identified as GRU Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga

On 9/16/2018 at 12:02 PM, william.scherk said:

The two gents shown below identify themselves as the two seen in CCTV tapes from Salisbury.  I won't give away the gen, but ask yourself when viewing this .... do you believe their tale?

Take another look at the state TV interview above, and then read the earlier Bellingcat exposes, including Skripal Suspects Confirmed as GRU Operatives: Prior European Operations Disclosed

Once you have absorbed that, can you ever go back to 'Tyler Durden' at ZeroHedge?  Eg,

On 4/14/2018 at 4:18 PM, Jon Letendre said:

“Somebody has some explaining to do... or did the Syrian airstrikes just 'distract' the citizenry from the reality surrounding the Skripal poisoning?

“Remember how we were told by the politicians (not the scientists) that a deadly Novichok nerve agent - produced by Russia - was used in the attempted assassination of the Skripals? Remember the 50 questions (here and here) we had surrounding the 'facts' as Theresa May had laid them out? Ever wonder why, given how utterly deadly we were told this chemical was, the Skripals wondered around for a few hours after being 'infected' and then days later, survived with no chronic damage?

“Well those doubts may well have just been answered as according to the independent Swiss state Spiez lab, the substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, which was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states.”

Swallow the BS whole, or not?  Objectivish tools of analysis should come in handy ...

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Key words: GRU, FSB, Komsomolskaya Pravda, Bell¿ngcat,  Boshirov, Chepiga, Skripal, Novichok

On 9/26/2018 at 9:47 AM, william.scherk said:

Take another look at the state TV interview above, and then read the earlier Bellingcat exposes, including Skripal Suspects Confirmed as GRU Operatives: Prior European Operations Disclosed

Once you have absorbed that, can you ever go back to 'Tyler Durden' at ZeroHedge?



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Of interest to the "Muh Russia hurr hurr"  gang?  Probably not.  

How Russia Helped Swing the Election for Trump
"A meticulous analysis of online activity during the 2016 campaign makes a powerful case that targeted cyberattacks by hackers and trolls were decisive."

-- and from the Moscow Times on Sept. 29: Russia Attacks ‘Belligerent Revisionism’ in Rare Criticism of Trump



Russia’s top diplomat condemned what he described as “an onslaught of belligerent revisionism” that threatens the international order in a rare personal criticism of U.S. President Donald Trump, reflecting growing tensions between the former Cold War enemies.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov lashed out at Trump’s policies in the Middle East, his withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal and Paris climate treaty as well as his moves to ratchet up trade tensions in a speech Friday at the United Nations General Assembly.

And in an announcement certain to stoke U.S. concerns, Lavrov told reporters in New York later that Russia has already begun delivering advanced S-300 air-defense systems to Syria.


And of course, espionage and disruption never end, do they?




FOR YEARS, THE Kremlin's increasingly aggressive hackers have reached across the globe to hit targets with everything from simple phishing schemes to worms built from leaked NSA zero day vulnerabilities. Now, law enforcement agencies in the US and Europe have detailed another, far more hands-on tactic: Snooping on Wi-Fi from a vehicle parked a few feet away from a target office—or even from a laptop inside their hotel.

On Thursday, the US Department of Justice charged seven hackers working for the Russian military agency GRU with carrying out a vast intrusion campaign against a wide range of organizations. The targets include anti-doping agencies in Colorado, Brazil, Canada, Monaco and Switzerland, part of a retaliatory leaking campaign after Russia was accused of doping ahead of the 2016 and 2018 Olympics; the Westinghouse Electric Company's nuclear power operations, which supplies nuclear fuel to Ukraine; and the Spiez chemical testing laboratory in Switzerland and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons in the Netherlands, likely due to their investigations into the Novichok gas attack on a Russian intelligence defector in the UK earlier this year.


The new details on those in-person hacking operations illustrate just how brash the GRU's hackers have become, says John Hultquist, the director of research at security intelligence firm FireEye, who has closely tracked GRU operations for years. "If they're willing to play like this, they are extremely aggressive," Hultquist says. "It’s risky and brazen that they’re doing this physically. Obviously your chance of getting caught and exposed in person are higher, but it gives them a whole new avenue to get into networks that might have otherwise been a challenge."



See also the under-the-radar note here:


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Remember the guy who was independently hunting for some kind of Clinton dirt-emails and doing a few asks reported at the time, the guy who left the "No Foul Play" suicide note?

If so, you will probably recall that the Wall Street Journal's reporters owned the first story -- they were the outlet who managed to interview the guy before he died a week or so later. 

So, in the scheme of things, if Q-fanatics can suggest that John McCain's death was actually a termination by the Hidden Deeper purified-state Military Justice whatsit, is it surprising that a new WSJ article dangles "Foul Play" over the sniffing-around guy?   I mean, it makes for an exciting detail to the long plodding hurr hurr of the Mueller probe and associated investigations behind the scenes. For some.

I want a whistleblower to open up about the Q-scenario for McCain's final days, with him and his family coming to terms with his execution at Gitmo, and all the planes flying around with his body.

I got nothing there, no whistle, no details and not so much as a Fake News report of a forensic opinion that there were indications of suicide at the death scene. I mean, not McCain's death scene, but Smith's. Who Smith?


Start here with this tweet and click through to his thread, if you are either a) getting jumpy at the slow progress of mass executions under Q martial law; b) bored, it being Sunday on OL, after all:


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If you are either a) getting jumpy at the slow progress of mass executions under Q martial law; b) bored, it being Sunday on OL, after all:

Just in time for turkey leftovers ... the second huge scoop by the folks at Bellingcat and partners.

"Muh Russia hurr hurr" ... 

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On 10/11/2018 at 12:12 PM, william.scherk said:

Comic interlude ...


That was fun.



For the reader, this is a comedy film in English (with thick Russian accents) about Russian Hackers trying to do madcap adventures with their hacking.

From the YouTube channel:


Welcome to darknet! America Tomorrow has done a documentary movie about Russian hackers, but didn’t release it. We asked for author’s rights and were answered: «Do whatever you want». Exclusive (!) on channel «Дикий Digital» – real life of hopefully real russian hackers. Russian geeks Boris, Fedor and Ignat are going to hack the world!

Great find...



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Turning back attention to the Deepest of the Deep, elements of the US Administration have raised an alert. Not a full "Alert," but hey:

Joint Statement from the ODNI, DOJ, FBI and DHS: Combating Foreign Influence in U.S. Elections


Foreign interference in U.S. elections is a threat to our democracy; identifying and preventing this interference is a top priority of the Federal Government. We believe the greatest strength of our society is an engaged and informed public. Adversaries target U.S. elections to divide America along political lines and influence key policy decisions that are in their national interest.

Foreign Influence

We are concerned about ongoing campaigns by Russia, China and other foreign actors, including Iran, to undermine confidence in democratic institutions and influence public sentiment and government policies. These activities also may seek to influence voter perceptions and decision making in the 2018 and 2020 U.S. elections.

Elements of these campaigns can take many forms, including using social media to amplify divisive issues, sponsoring specific content in English-language media like RT and Sputnik, seeding disinformation through sympathetic spokespersons regarding political candidates and disseminating foreign propaganda. [...]



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Arguably neutral information, this reminds me why I find Russia fascinating and would-be closer cousins to Canada in yon non-NATO world. Who remembers Farley Mowat's Sibir? It rang all the 'great north' bells for some readers up here, and was interesting for its exploration of mythologies of place. One could understand a nostalgic longing for the wild Siberia, and imagine being a patriot of place.

You can turn off the sound and be pleasantly stimulated by the visuals.

If I moved to Russia intending citizenship (like Gérard Depardieu and Steven Seagal) I would probably tend patriotic if not-Siberia-longing as with Mowat, and enjoy the power vibe of military parades in Red Square. There are many symbols of deserved Russian pride. I would not be attached to the Empire, though, since it did not on the whole deliver advancement in human institutions in the end, as arguably the devolved British Empire ultimately "gave" democracy to itself, its dominions, its colonies, right up to Hong Kong and Gilbraltar.  I would not be nostalgic for the smallpox era in BC either.

But how to be a proper nationalist in a Russia with 57 nationalities?

In Canada, if you are 'nationalist' so-tagged it usually means you are a separatist from Quebec or a badly-labeled Alberta independence person. On the international stage, what would a 'nationalist' Canada try to get up to anyway besides it blanditute as industrialized democracy?

Our communist overlords have lulled us into multiculturalism and the melting pot principle of so-called national identity since the first Trudeau was prime minister, I figure, sapping our "national" symbols of added oomph in military adventures or ambitions. The lull is stupefying enough to contain geese, loons, beavers, the Citadel contains all those symbols that even hardcore separatists want to keep attached to French Canada when it fucked off, from the maple leaf to anthem. J'ai Quebec dans le peau, mais j'ai Canada dans le coeur.  

Here in British Columbia there are the 'Cascadia' nationalists, I suppose, who are the kind of firebrands you'd expect in professions like urban planning. The tributary notion is a cultural-national boundary that would surround BC, Washington and Oregon.  The shared values constitute a national will. Snore.  The only way this works is if you combine climatic/coastal concepts with certain social realities on each side of the actual borders. Washington state thus is so culturally attuned to its neighbours to the north and south that lifestyles would basically be in the same zones on a measurement scale.  I do know that there are a handful of Americanadians so-called who cultivate business and family on both sides.

Maybe in fifty years a robust American border with Canada allows as many asylum seekers from Central America as it can bleed toward Canada as the Canadians have harmonized their policies.

If Mexico could not harry a caravan of Middle Easterners and smallpox carriers across its land as it showboated itself as victims of hideous conditions of violence and absent rule of law, if Mexico could not harry a caravan, then why shouldn't America let that caravan roll further northward, penned in of course by Trump's 15,000 military task force ...?

These are my monstrous fantasies on All Hallows Eve. I must roll tape and do the final edit on my boring Midterms Hallowe'en video.

Unedited and so locking the topic till I can get back and fix errors and insults.

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Is it serendipity when you find something you were looking for, but not in the place you looked? Here's a long essay that answers most of my question's implications. I shall make this a Phil Coates Memorial Must-Read for partisans of this topic. Russian goals ...

On 10/31/2018 at 4:24 PM, william.scherk said:

But how to be a proper nationalist in a Russia with 57 nationalities?


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Muh, muh Russian monuments...

Russia Wants Bulgarians to Stop Painting Soviet Monuments To Look Like American Superheroes


According to a report by the Moscow Times, pranksters in Bulgaria are repainting Soviet-era monuments so that Soviet military heroes look like American Superheroes. Needless to say, the Russians are not too happy about it...

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The Bulgaria story is a little bit old (from 2014). The country of Todor Zhivkov has come a long way since the fall of Communism. A former Warsaw Pact state, a member of the European Union since 2007, a full member of NATO since 2004 -- the country has also increasingly oriented its economy towards the West.

More recent news out of Russia (via the Moscow Times), published today: 'Brazen Interference': Russian Officials React to Election of Interpol's President.


Officials in Moscow cited unfair Western pressure and interference in reacting to the news that a Russian major-general had lost in his bid to become the president of Interpol.

The international police body announced Wednesday that South Korea’s Kim Jong-yang had been elected to serve as the organization’s president for the remaining two years of his Chinese predecessor’s term following the latter's disappearance.

Prior to the vote, officials in Europe and the United States expressed widespread concern that the election of Alexander Prokopchuk, one of Interpol's four vice-presidents and a Russian national, could undermine the body’s power.

This is how Russian officials reacted to the news:

– Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov:

“Of course, it is a pity that our candidate did not win. On the other hand, if we look at the statements from a number of countries on the eve of the election, of course, the pressure was huge, that’s obvious.”

– General Vladimir Dzhabarov, deputy chairman of the Federation Council’s Foreign Affairs Committee:

“It is beyond doubt that member states of the organization were pressured and cultivated. The U.S. brazenly interfered in the presidential election of this international body.”

– Andrei Klimov, deputy chairman of the Federation Council’s Foreign Affairs Committee:

“They disseminated information discrediting Prokopchuk’s dignity and reputation in order to prevent his election. We need to open [legal] cases and hound them with lawsuits.”

– Igor Morozov, deputy chairman of the Federation Council's Committee on Science, Education and Culture:

“The Americans feared that if a Russian headed Interpol, their plans to illegally prosecute and arrest Russian and other citizens in any country would fail.”

“The messaging from the U.S., the Baltic countries and Ukraine surrounding the possible election of a Russian representative to head Interpol indicates that the hybrid war against Russia continues.”

Bill Browder was happy!

Previously on this programme ...

Moscow Times just started a podcast. This one is interesting ...

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I expect this cannot possibly be true, that Russia has revived 'political officers' to be embedded with, supervise or parallel its military structure.  I thought they already had a Deep State over there, if not in mystic union with the US Deep State, due to the mystic union between Putin and Trump's purpose in defeating The Cabal and 'liberating Europe.'

Is Ukraine Europe? Not in a way that would interest most observers at Objectivist Living. I mean, would Ayn Rand herself have anything to say about the Russians were she alive today just slightly older than Caroljane and reading about martial law in Ukraine after the  maritime border clash?  Would the Ukraine-Russia issue even raise an eyebrow, since it is almost consensus here that Rand would have lurved a Donald Trump regnant?  It could be argued that it is objectively true that criticism of Donald Trump policies is Hatred. Lying, deranged leftist pricks notwithstanding.

If not refreshed by Russia's fresh denialism about the forced famine in Ukraine, what is the point of this kind of misinformation?  Would any of the Q-mystics here care to weigh in?


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The leftmost of the fake-news personalities I follow on Twitter were, um, all a-twitter over the filing of a tranche of Mueller documents today dealing with Michael Flynn.  It was funny. 

In the end, the documents were filed, with multiple heavy redactions in some areas.  The bottom line as far as I have gathered from a quick review:  the prosecution will not recommend any time behind bars, because of the extent of cooperation

Here is Popehat (Ken White) making fun earlier ...

Here is a tiny excerpt of the documents:

For the incurious, here is a link to avoid: Mueller Recommends No Jail for Flynn Because of His Help

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