RANT: I am sick and tired of being honest.


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Shayne, you are being evasive.

No, but you sure are being presumptuous.

Shayne

With justification. I asked you a conversational question, which you obviously do not want to answer, so as I am interested in the question, I can only presume, assume and speculate on the answer myself.

Oh no, the presumptuous, ignorant, foolish woman is going to presume some more! What am I going to do! I guess I'd better say some more things so she can further decorate my statements with her banal presumptions, yes? Actually, no.

Shayne

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Shayne, you are being evasive.

No, but you sure are being presumptuous.

Shayne

With justification. I asked you a conversational question, which you obviously do not want to answer, so as I am interested in the question, I can only presume, assume and speculate on the answer myself.

Oh no, the presumptuous, ignorant, foolish woman is going to presume some more! What am I going to do! I guess I'd better say some more things so she can further decorate my statements with her banal presumptions, yes? Actually, no.

Shayne

English translation: "I don't want to answer her silly question, and she can't make me, so there!"

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English translation: "I don't want to answer her silly question, and she can't make me, so there!"

Actually, the translation is: I was answering your questions, until you called me a liar, and now because of that I'm telling you to take a flying leap. You weren't trying to actually figure out what I thought or why, but in your smarmy way you were trying to corner me, and when you found you couldn't, you called me a liar. Before I thought you were somewhat amusing; now I consider you a smarmy worm.

Shayne

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Oh no, the presumptuous, ignorant, foolish woman is going to presume some more! What am I going to do! I guess I'd better say some more things so she can further decorate my statements with her banal presumptions, yes? Actually, no.

Shayne

Factual inaccuracy. I am indeed presumptuous, ignorant of many things, and more foolish than you can imagine, but banality has never been proven or even alleged against me.

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Shayne"s argument:

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And I cannot be sorry for an American male who doesn't need Viagra. You need to regroup and get back into the fight knowing that no light at the end of the tunnel only means there's not a train bearing down on you, not that there is no end.

I am not taking Viagra. However, I do take a supplement called Tribosten, which does increase my testosterone levels. It's not cheap, but worth every penny. About a month ago, I told a trainer that I suspected that my testosterone was low. I have not had it tested. But Tribosten is one of the very few supplements in which I have immediately noticed a difference.

Thanks!

--Brant

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English translation: "I don't want to answer her silly question, and she can't make me, so there!"

Actually, the translation is: I was answering your questions, until you called me a liar, and now because of that I'm telling you to take a flying leap. You weren't trying to actually figure out what I thought or why, but in your smarmy way you were trying to corner me, and when you found you couldn't, you called me a liar. Before I thought you were somewhat amusing; now I consider you a smarmy worm.

Shayne

Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

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English translation: "I don't want to answer her silly question, and she can't make me, so there!"

Actually, the translation is: I was answering your questions, until you called me a liar, and now because of that I'm telling you to take a flying leap. You weren't trying to actually figure out what I thought or why, but in your smarmy way you were trying to corner me, and when you found you couldn't, you called me a liar. Before I thought you were somewhat amusing; now I consider you a smarmy worm.

Shayne

Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

Carol's first flame war on OL.

--Brant

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English translation: "I don't want to answer her silly question, and she can't make me, so there!"

Actually, the translation is: I was answering your questions, until you called me a liar, and now because of that I'm telling you to take a flying leap. You weren't trying to actually figure out what I thought or why, but in your smarmy way you were trying to corner me, and when you found you couldn't, you called me a liar. Before I thought you were somewhat amusing; now I consider you a smarmy worm.

Shayne

Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

Carol's first flame war on OL.

--Brant

Arrghh, I hope not! I set myself on fire once, that was plenty!

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Come on baby light my fire!

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Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

Pretending to answer while not answering (aka "evading the question") is a form of lying in my book.

Shayne

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Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

Pretending to answer while not answering (aka "evading the question") is a form of lying in my book.

Shayne

Well, your book is longer than mine, but anyway you didn't even pretend to answer, you just didn't answer and veered off in other directions.

So you must admit I never called you a liar, in anybody's book.

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Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

Pretending to answer while not answering (aka "evading the question") is a form of lying in my book.

Shayne

well, your book is longer than mine, but anyway you didn't even pretend to answer, you just didn't answer and veered off in other directions.

So you must admit I never called you a liar, in anybody'sbook.

You either are or are not saying that I intentionally did not answer the question. Unless you can do a long-distance Vulcan mind-meld, you must admit that you're presumptuous and should apologize.

Shayne

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Where did I call you a liar? I never thought you were lying, just evading the question, and for the record I really was trying to figure out what you thought. I don't think you're a liar, nor did I even imply such a thing. Please explain this.

Pretending to answer while not answering (aka "evading the question") is a form of lying in my book.

Shayne

well, your book is longer than mine, but anyway you didn't even pretend to answer, you just didn't answer and veered off in other directions.

So you must admit I never called you a liar, in anybody'sbook.

You either are or are not saying that I intentionally did not answer the question. Unless you can do a long-distance Vulcan mind-meld, you must admit that you're presumptuous and should apologize.

Shayne

I am saying that you did not answer the question. As to your intentions, how could I presume to know them?

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I am saying that you did not answer the question. As to your intentions, how could I presume to know them?

Well, pardon me for presuming that you know the meaning of words.

Shayne

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I am saying that you did not answer the question. As to your intentions, how could I presume to know them?

Well, pardon me for presuming that you know the meaning of words.

Shayne

Of course I pardon you.

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Shayne's book has a lot of blank pages.

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The rest are in crayon.

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The brutal truth is that this honesty has gotten me nothing in life.

Values have to be created by thought and practical effort. Honesty, in itself, provides you with nothing. It is an essential pre-condition though to creating values, and more broadly than the personal, it's essential across society for creating a climate that's conducive to creating values. All that aside, the integrity that you have for upholding property rights: how exactly has that detracted from your life?

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No offense, but aren't these the kinds of feelings best left unshared?

I recommend that you get yourself a journal, start using it, and keep such thoughts private.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but what is your reasoning?

--Brant

the journal is a good idea, but how would you have known to tell him if he'd done "best"?

My reasoning is that (1) Chris appears to be using his real name, (2) he is single, and appears to be looking for something beyond that, (3) in this day and age, such information can be found about others far too easily, and (4)the next person Chris asks out on a date should be presumed to Google his name, and thus find out the subject of this rant. Not exactly an aphrodisiac, this rant. ;)

Then again, my comments were a mere recommendation. To each his own, and all that...

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No offense, but aren't these the kinds of feelings best left unshared?

I recommend that you get yourself a journal, start using it, and keep such thoughts private.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but what is your reasoning?

--Brant

the journal is a good idea, but how would you have known to tell him if he'd done "best"?

My reasoning is that (1) Chris appears to be using his real name, (2) he is single, and appears to be looking for something beyond that, (3) in this day and age, such information can be found about others far too easily, and (4)the next person Chris asks out on a date should be presumed to Google his name, and thus find out the subject of this rant. Not exactly an aphrodisiac, this rant. ;)

Then again, my comments were a mere recommendation. To each his own, and all that...

Sir, seems to me that you are thinking like a lawyer!

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