caroljane Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Xray,Nah.Drinking songs, that's what we need. But with wine - I don't think so!Bock tankards and weisswurst, and ..."In Munchen steht ein Hofbrauhaus(all together) Eins, zwei, g'suffa..."Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - wherever that is; Brant said something about it being the kitchen; interesting, isn't it, that people often like to gather in the kitchen at parties, this probably has to do with agreeable feelings (dating back to our stone-age ancestors) connected to a hearth where one is being fed - to taste the "real thing", the golden barley juice ("Gerstensaft") as we sometimes call beer in colloquial German. Okay, I'll bring some Munich beer (all brands are excellent really) and Weißwurst (white sausage) for you then. "In Munchen steht ein Hofbrauhaus(all together) Eins, zwei, g'suffa..."I see you already have mastered the basic Munich phrase. ;) (Often also written in cruder Bavarian phonetic transcription as "Oans, zwoa, g'suffa").Free translation: "One, two, swig it!" When there is a live brass band playing, the lead singer shouts these words to the guests at regular intervals and they then all raise their tankards, clink them and "swig it".Tochter aus Eilysium! Can we have the Bavarians in shorts who slap themselves silly too? I love the tuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - Geez.Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)No philosophy allowed, and if you lot have to talk books, off to his library with you.Tony B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!It looks like you have not caught the irony on my part in going along with it. In often do that: pick up what is offered in an ironic post and then combine it with other elements (like you really liking cucumber sandwiches) to create a new effect (in this case the desired effect was to push the 'fictional story' forward). Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)Going strictly by Objectivist principles, I cannot be a bad girl since the audiovisual symbol in my passport, the first name referring to the entity that I am is 'angel' (Angela) ."Angel" is a concept and the characteristics of angels is that they are good. Since contradictions don't exist in Objectivism, I therefore cannot be or become bad. I'm off the hook. ;) Edited April 21, 2011 by Xray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jriggenbach Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - Geez.Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)No philosophy allowed, and if you lot have to talk books, off to his library with you.Tony B)Actually, my preference is for an intellectual but spirited atmosphere, Bohemian basically, with much talk of philosophy, history, politics, and the arts. Classical music or jazz should be on in the background and there should be lots of dark beer and both red and white wine and plenty of foodstuffs - no watercress or cucumber sandwiches, but pretty much standard party stuff: veggies and dip, chips and salsa, cheese and crackers, fruit, shrimp with cocktail sauce, that sort of thing. Raucous and rollicking makes me nervous; it makes me think something is going to get knocked over and broken or that one of my books is going to have somebody's cabernet or somebody's schwarzbier spilled on it.JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I, personally, was wondering if Sarah Palin was going to be invited to this Tea Party.(Just trying to offer helpful suggestions...)Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - Geez.Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)No philosophy allowed, and if you lot have to talk books, off to his library with you.Tony B)Actually, my preference is for an intellectual but spirited atmosphere, Bohemian basically, with much talk of philosophy, history, politics, and the arts. Classical music or jazz should be on in the background and there should be lots of dark beer and both red and white wine and plenty of foodstuffs - no watercress or cucumber sandwiches, but pretty much standard party stuff: veggies and dip, chips and salsa, cheese and crackers, fruit, shrimp with cocktail sauce, that sort of thing. Raucous and rollicking makes me nervous; it makes me think something is going to get knocked over and broken or that one of my books is going to have somebody's cabernet or somebody's schwarzbier spilled on it.JRuh-oh, looks like we'll have to try and keep the lodge brothers in the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I, personally, was wondering if Sarah Palin was going to be invited to this Tea Party.(Just trying to offer helpful suggestions...)MichaelShhh Michael! Cripes, now we'll have to find a backup to jump out of the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Okay, I'll bring some Munich beer (all brands are excellent really) and Weißwurst (white sausage) for you then. If you’re picking it up at Dallmayr, could you bring a selection of their candy? I don’t remember what kind was my favorite, but they have great stuff there. They have an outlet in the Munich airport, if you’re flying out of there. BTW, and I know this might be tough, but could you bring some Kölsch? We have Bavarian beer over here, Spaten, Hofbräu, Franziskaner, and others, but I’ve never seen Kölsch in a store in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 "Angel" is a concept and the characteristics of angels is that they are good. Since contradictions don't exist in Objectivism, I therefore cannot be or become bad. I'm off the hook. ;)I don't know what version of Abrahamic mythology you're thinking of, but isn't it the case that the devil is a fallen angel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Angela:Don't worry. ND negotiated my fee to JR for the dungeon franchise wherein you will be "back on the hook," along with anyone who spills anything on Jr's treasures.Adammaking snapping to attention an intense experience B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Sorry ND should have included this Wiki statement:"Despite the novel being filled with references to the philosopher Michel Foucault[2] and Eco's friendship with the French philosopher[3], the author "specifically rejects any intentional reference to Michel Foucault"[4] — and this is regarded as one of his subtle literary jokes[5]."Footnote 5And no, I have no clue what is being discussed on that link.There isn't a single reference to Michel Foucault in the book, and believe me lots of writers get referenced. The action ends 3 days after St. Johns Eve (the summer solstice) in 1984 (June 23), and Michel Foucault died June 25, 1984. Off by one day. I disagree with the wording of the wiki article as it stands now. I wrote a few parts of that article, btw, and there's other stuff in there I disagree with.It’s back to the way it used to read. I left in the reference to Eco having a friendship with Michel Foucault, since the reference is to a French-only book that I’m not up for seeking out and checking. I did a quick check of the indexes for the non-fiction Eco books I have, and there wasn’t a single cite of Michel Foucault. It only takes one person with an axe to grind to get inaccuracies introduced into Wikipedia articles (Hmm, I wonder what James Valliant is up to nowadays). Now I might go fiddle with the "unreliable narrator" bit, the way it's written is too misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) I've never heard of them being friends, though Eco has also written on linguistics. Eco's work on semiotics is pivotal. His introduction to semiotics (orginally published under the title La Struttura Assente, was a must-read for every student of linguistics back in the mid-seventies. In addition, the book is a joy to read. For Eco has a vivid writing style, the very opposite of the 'dryness' often associated with academic writing.I saw the movie when it first came out and thought it was terrific. Then I read the book maybe 15 years later, saw the movie again, I could have thrown things at the screen. I suppose it is pretty good, and I don't have a problem with Connery in it. I haven't read the book but saw the film. I recall being quite impressed by Connery's performance. Imo Sean Connery looked better as he got older. I did not like his looks in the 1964 Hitchcock film Marnie (he was a perfect cast for the role of Mark Rutland though).Okay, I'll bring some Munich beer (all brands are excellent really) and Weißwurst (white sausage) for you then. If you’re picking it up at Dallmayr, could you bring a selection of their candy? I don’t remember what kind was my favorite, but they have great stuff there. They have an outlet in the Munich airport, if you’re flying out of there. BTW, and I know this might be tough, but could you bring some Kölsch? We have Bavarian beer over here, Spaten, Hofbräu, Franziskaner, and others, but I’ve never seen Kölsch in a store in the States.Dallmayr is THE Munich delicatessen store! Never, ever set a foot into Dallmayr's if you are on a diet. . Okay, I'll see if I can get some Dallmayr goodies for you. I'll also bring some Kölsch, no problem. I just read in Wikipedia that in Cologne pubs, one usually gets another fresh Kölsch served immediately (and without having to order it first) after having emptied one's glass. If one does not want a refill, to signalize this to the waiter one puts the beer coaster on top of the empty glass."Angel" is a concept and the characteristics of angels is that they are good. Since contradictions don't exist in Objectivism, I therefore cannot be or become bad. I'm off the hook. ;)I don't know what version of Abrahamic mythology you're thinking of, but isn't it the case that the devil is a fallen angel?Touché, lol! I can only watch helplessly as I see my premise go down the drain here. Edited April 22, 2011 by Xray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Angela:The beer coaster on top of your glass or stein is universal in American bars also.Out of curiosity, as a PETA member, would you ever buy sausage to bring to a friend or relatives house that had meat eaters in it? Or, would you consider that to be enabling an industry that you were opposed to?Not a trap or trick question, a serious one.Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) Raucous and rollicking makes me nervous; it makes me think something is going to get knocked over and broken or that one of my books is going to have somebody's cabernet or somebody's schwarzbier spilled on it.uh-oh, looks like we'll have to try and keep the lodge brothers in the kitchen.It's definitely better to keep them there, I agree, Carol. Just imagine the torture of having to rub off red wine spills from a light colored velvet carpet! Kitchen floors are less of a problem. You just mop up the stuff. I even like working in others' kitchens at parties and have never found out why this voluntary burst of activity does not happen in my own kitchen ... ;)Can we have the Bavarians in shorts who slap themselves silly too? I love the tuba.Ah, the Schuhplattlers in their Lederhosen! They can get quite loud, so I'm not sure whether JR would be amused. ;) Edited April 22, 2011 by Xray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I just read in Wikipedia that in Cologne pubs, one usually gets another fresh Kölsch served immediately (and without having to order it first) after having emptied one's glass. If one does not want a refill, to signalize this to the waiter one puts the beer coaster on top of the empty glassMy experience was that the waiters walk around with a carrier full of glasses, calling out "Kölsch, Kölsch, Kölsch!", with a unique, low brow vocal cadence (I can hear it in my head now), then they put a hash mark on your coaster as they give you a fresh glass. Ahhh...Yes, Dallmayr is also fantastic, their coffee is great too, and you can mail order that in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 If you’re picking it up at Dallmayr, could you bring a selection of their candy?Dallmayr is THE Munich delicatessen store!This picture of Dallmayr's is called Miles Of Truffles. This fest is shaping up. I would love to meet both Sarah and Jeff. But, I would probably spend my time yapping with fellow socialists/mixed premises yahoos on the back porch.Seriously, what fun it would be if somehow we could rig some video and have one of those Blogging Heads live exchanges. Diana Hsieh does a one-sided version of this every week, with dire results. I am sure OL-fest worthies can do a better job with at least a few webcams. I hereby undertake to equip at least one fellow Canuckistani with a webcam, and commit to technical assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) Adam and I will take care of hiring the strippers.I, personally, was wondering if Sarah Palin was going to be invited to this Tea Party.(Just trying to offer helpful suggestions...)MichaelShhh Michael! Cripes, now we'll have to find a backup to jump out of the cake.Quite a contrast program I must say: Strippers and Sarah. Edited April 22, 2011 by Xray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Raucous and rollicking makes me nervous; it makes me think something is going to get knocked over and broken or that one of my books is going to have somebody's cabernet or somebody's schwarzbier spilled on it.uh-oh, looks like we'll have to try and keep the lodge brothers in the kitchen.It's definitely better to keep them there, I agree, Carol. Just imagine the torture of having to rub off red wine spills from a light colored velvet carpet! Kitchen floors are less of a problem. You just mop up the stuff. I even like working in others' kitchens at parties and have never found out why this voluntary burst of activity does not happen in my own kitchen ... ;)Can we have the Bavarians in shorts who slap themselves silly too? I love the tuba.Ah, the Schuhplattlers in their Lederhosen! They can get quite loud, so I'm not sure whether JR would be amused. ;)Wunderbar! You know that is a lot like the Fraternal Stepdance that is part of the Rite at the Igloo. We do it more to keep ourselves warm than anything else. How about a multicultural folk dance performance at the party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) Angela:The beer coaster on top of your glass or stein is universal in American bars also.Out of curiosity, as a PETA member, would you ever buy sausage to bring to a friend or relatives house that had meat eaters in it? Or, would you consider that to be enabling an industry that you were opposed to?Not a trap or trick question, a serious one.AdamIt is an excellent and perfectly justified question Adam and I knew you would bring it up in some form after I made the "Weißwurst" post. The simple truth is that I have yet a long way ahead of me before reaching my own ethical ideal in that respect. Edited April 22, 2011 by Xray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Angela:The beer coaster on top of your glass or stein is universal in American bars also.Out of curiosity, as a PETA member, would you ever buy sausage to bring to a friend or relatives house that had meat eaters in it? Or, would you consider that to be enabling an industry that you were opposed to?Not a trap or trick question, a serious one.AdamIt is an excellent and perfectly justified question Adam and I knew you would bring it up in some form after I made the "Weißwurst" post. The simple truth is that I have yet a long way ahead of me before reaching my own ethical ideal in that respect.Fair enough. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 This picture of Dallmayr's is called Miles Of Truffles.The candy I have in mind is hard candy that comes in plastic bags, it's labeled and clearly made just for Dallmayr. There were really unique flavors, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - Geez.Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)No philosophy allowed, and if you lot have to talk books, off to his library with you.Tony B)Tony, I am guessing that you are not a wedding freak like me but I know you appreciate a decent teatime. Certain of my correspondents of the Royal Wedding Fanwomen network live in SA and are hosting open house showings with cucumber sandwiches, canapes, scones and cream cakes, tea and Pimm;s Cup, and a selection of iced cakes, and if you want to attend I can properly introduce you . Or improperly if that's your pleasure.Sense of Lively,Caroline Elizabeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - Geez.Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)No philosophy allowed, and if you lot have to talk books, off to his library with you.Tony B)Tony, I am guessing that you are not a wedding freak like me but I know you appreciate a decent teatime. Certain of my correspondents of the Royal Wedding Fanwomen network live in SA and are hosting open house showings with cucumber sandwiches, canapes, scones and cream cakes, tea and Pimm;s Cup, and a selection of iced cakes, and if you want to attend I can properly introduce you . Or improperly if that's your pleasure.Sense of Lively,Caroline ElizabethCarol,Hell, you've found me out, in spite of my kidding about rambunctious japes earlier.(Now, how do you always manage to make me extend my vocab this way?)Genteel and sedate, sounds fine.I'm really not much of a drinker, but Pimm's is tasty. Throw in a scattering of attractive, elegant ladies, and I'll be in my element.I promise to try not to dribble, drip or drool any tea and cake on them.Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Tony, You mean after you have sipped some herbal tea and eaten some of the dainty watercress sandwiches with the crusts cut off (maybe JR can also get you some with cucumber because you like them so much), you will then proceed to the beer room - Geez.Am I the only one who caught the ironic gleam in JR's eye when he invited us to a "tea party"?Oh puh-leez!Raucous and rollicking, that's more his style, for bad girls and boys. (If you aren't one yet, you will be by the end.)No philosophy allowed, and if you lot have to talk books, off to his library with you.Tony B)Tony, I am guessing that you are not a wedding freak like me but I know you appreciate a decent teatime. Certain of my correspondents of the Royal Wedding Fanwomen network live in SA and are hosting open house showings with cucumber sandwiches, canapes, scones and cream cakes, tea and Pimm;s Cup, and a selection of iced cakes, and if you want to attend I can properly introduce you . Or improperly if that's your pleasure.Sense of Lively,Caroline ElizabethCarol,Hell, you've found me out, in spite of my kidding about rambunctious japes earlier.(Now, how do you always manage to make me extend my vocab this way?)Genteel and sedate, sounds fine.I'm really not much of a drinker, but Pimm's is tasty. Throw in a scattering of attractive, elegant ladies, and I'll be in my element.I promise to try not to dribble, drip or drool any tea and cake on them.TonyThey have been intrigued by your exploits at Polarcon and would I am sure not mind any manly slurping. I feel the Commonwealth should rally round at times like these.Nanook wants me to say that he, for one, does not believe the ridiculous rumour about you and the Grand Shaman's nieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I just wanted to warn everyone that if any of you violate my cake rights at JR's tea party, I will retaliate with extreme prejudice.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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