Do you mean "can't"? Kyle, The American experiment was in whether man can govern himself, i.e., without a king, without appointment from the Divine, etc. The very fact that you ask this question shows how far the educational system dropped the ball on this. But you will find this discussed often in religious places where they prize the Constitution. The Tea Party and those who circle around it have been popularizing this notion. It's the antidote to big government, too. Obama, The Knucklehead Supreme (at least in that video), now wants it to be the justification of big government. That's Orwell-land. Doublethink. One of my favorite quotes from the Founding Fathers is in Thomas Paine's Common Sense: Try to square that with what Obama is talking about. It doesn't. Hell, he even complains about negative rights being the foundation of the Constitution and upheld by the Supreme Court. Here's an exact quote from 2001 (my bold): I don't believe his disapproval of that has shifted, either. He toned it down a bit once he started running for President and after he was elected, but that's all. If the American experiment is whether man can rule himself. and if you take Paine's word for it, you get "whether man can rule his own wickedness." Obama doesn't want you to be good. It's OK for you to be bad. That gives him the moral justification to say he has to rule over you, using "We The People," as his spoken reason, but raw power as his true intent. (When I say Obama, I mean those who think like him, too.) Michael Michael, I believe you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that man can't govern himself (this isn't my belief or position). I was correcting your interpretation of Obama's argument since it didn't square with the rest of your interpretation. Your interpretation was as follows: I corrected the second word (by changing can to can't) since it didn't make sense given the rest of your interpretation of Obama's argument. Nice monologue, though. And the educational system still isn't in possession of the ball. I was in church the other day and I could swear the priest was channeling Obama. I was waiting for him to say: "we're all in this together". LOL. This isn't to say you are wrong in the above quote. Most religious folk do have a firm respect for liberty, at least, in my experience.