Michael, I think I finally have a handle on where and why we disagree. You say that abstract art makes someone evoke an emotion. It inspires an emotion in us. I completely agree. In order for an emotion to be felt, interaction is necessary. Someone who has no relation to anything cannot have emotion because consciousness is dependent on reality first. If there is nothing, consciousness cannot exist. When something is completely abstract it uses sensing and percepting. It does not make you conceive of what it is you are showing, in fact it defies you that. In other words, it lets you know that something is there and it lets you differentiate between entities, but it does not tell you what is there. If something does not tell you what is there it cannot show you anything. The difference is in that there is a difference between being made to have an emotion and showing that emotion. I can take a visual image and it can depict an idea. Abstract art can make you feel it without showing you. Lunch time. I'll write more soon.