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More to worry about. The results are in and generally predictable.
I wonder if Putin wasn't too hasty to call the referendums so soon.
Once ratified, any attacks on the 4 areas will officially be attacks on Russia.
Four regions vote to join Russia: What’s next? — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
WWW.RT.COMThe legal procedure for admitting the Donbass republics and Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions to Russia requires several steps -
One could suppose that shelling civilians in Donetsk these past months would make them *more* likely to vote to leave Ukraine (or less? ha.)
Irrelevant, Kyiv was going to call the referenda a sham, anyway.
Western media continues to ignore how Ukraine is using NATO weapons to kill innocent civilians in the Donbass — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
WWW.RT.COMThe civilian death toll keeps growing as some EU citizens rise up against their governments’ support for Kiev -
Germany got tipped-off in advance. This comes under the Russians fired on the nuclear plant they held and were continuing to safely operate, the Russians shelled their own POW camp to kill 40 Ukr prisoners, Russian "mass" grave[s] discovered. They killed the defiant Ukrainian garrison on Snake Island. They've been recently bombing their Russ-Ukr civilians in Donetsk. Of course. They are bad people.
(TG got in the report before me).
CIA warned Germany of Nord Stream attack – Spiegel — RT World News
WWW.RT.COMGerman media claim the CIA had warned Berlin about a possible attack on Nord Stream pipelines weeks before it happened -
9 hours ago, Peter said:
Famous South Africans? Charlize Theron, Orlando Bloom, Bijou Phillips, Glynis Johns, Arnold Vosloo, brrrrr, known for playing the fictional pharaoh Imhotep in The Mummy (1999) and The Mummy Returns (2001), Elon Musk . . . . and Anthony!
Also a UK subject, if any famous Brits come to mind.
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Subjectivity rules. Reality: Putin was not for a second going to be defeated in the war (for the oblasts--not for "Ukraine" as the alarmists/warmongers propounded).
Despite a setback in one region, he has all but won presently. From the wishful thinkers, the irrational experts, Russia would be heroically beaten - their hubris and machismo, and propaganda did the rest. A truly heroic and courageous Ukrainian leader would have seen all that coming at the start and resorted to diplomacy: immediate peace talks - and conceded the (agreed upon) autonomy to the Donbas and promised Ukraine's neutrality. If Zelensky were a great and rational leader, only concerned with the interests of his countrymen, he would have told the snake-oil salesmen Johnson/Biden (et al) to "F - off. I am taking the peaceful path. Why should we Ukrainians fight and die for you and the West on our land to punish Russia? At best, this will become a drawn-out battle 'weakening' us more than them, or we lose half the country. Go do your own heroic fighting against Russia elsewhere with your British Army, Boris".
And the nuke threat is more dangerous by somebody, probably committed by some minor functionary or group without orders, from the West. Growing desperation of western leaders makes a false flag attack a real possibility. Their nuke rhetoric is ratcheting up the tension, deliberately so. They need a maximum escalation of warfare to get out of the mess they made - Plan A didn't work and they have no Plan B. The winning Russian side, by contrast, doesn't need to resort to nukes. Which is in the warning Putin sends. "We won't start it".
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22 hours ago, Peter said:
Wars and World Wars happen, and alliances occur. And way back when America had "friends" like France as we battled England for our independence. It seems odd but we had two wars with Britain and two wars with Germany. How do South Africans today judge their long alliance with Britain?
GW's stress is clearly on "permanent".
When it (the crisis, threat, etc. ) is over and done with, your country reclaims its independence and ends the temporarily valuable, cooperative alliance.
("Isolationism", never! "Interventionism", nope ... independence.
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2 hours ago, Peter said:
I see Canada and America (since 1949) are two of the earliest members of NATO along with a bunch of other countries.
How did that come to this stage?
"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world..." G. Washington, 1796
Now, that's genius. Obviously GW understood how few men can give up power and prestige willingly. And first must come national self-interest.
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58 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
Tony,
I read the following and I believe part of it is true.
The person (I no longer remember who) said many people in the Deep State still believe Russia elected Donald Trump and that is why they want to replace Putin in a regime change war. They want to punish Putin for causing Trump.
Had I not lived through the idiocy of the last few years, I would have never believed that. But knowing how out of touch with reality the predator class is, I think this actually is a partial explanation.
Among money and other things, of course.
Michael
That came up on RT today: https://www.rt.com/news/563090-fbi-knew-russiagate-was-fraud/
Michael, I think "punishment" is coming from different groups for a range of 'feelings' (somewhat differing in Britain and Europe) and this one - from the rabid US Left concerning Trump - could easily be overlooked as a childish joke.
Since anyone sane and human can't take in the levels of unforgiving malice by tiny men and women, an "enormity".
(Similarly, I am pretty sure Putin was under-prepared and -manned for his invasion, I think believed he only had to shock Kyiv into negotiations with a show of force (I mean it!) and although familiar with average Russophobia, was likely startled to find out the heights of punishing malice against him and the RF - and how low (self-sacrificially) his opposition would go and have gone to escalate matters.)
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Money aside, this war would not have been possible, would have stalled at the outset in a negotiated settlement, without the masses of people's adoration of their sacrificial martyrs. (Accepting sacrificing themselves also - only up to a point).
Still to get my head around the enormity, people would rather see Putin "punished" - as long as it takes, and no matter what lives lost and economies tattered - than have demanded that war be diplomatically averted early.
"The greater value for a lesser or non"? Omnicide would be the last stage.
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"Zelensky said in his inaugural speech that he was ready to lose ratings, popularity, position... No, he would lose his life. He will hang on some tree on Khreshchatyk - if he betrays Ukraine and those people who died in the Revolution and the War". (Yarosh) .
[On May 27 2019, a week after Zelensky's inauguration as president, the Ukrainian internet news site Obozrevatel published a long interview with Dmytro Anatoliyovych Yarosh, a co-founder of the Right Sector who was then the commander of the Ukrainian Volunteer Army].
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Follows, maps and editorial comment from Moon of Alabama webpage:
"The division is consistent with ethnic and linguistic differences between those parts of Ukraine".
bigger"In 2014, after the violent fascist coup in Kiev, one of the first laws implemented by the new government removed the Russian language from official use. Instead of overcoming the differences between its people it only sealed the predominant split in Ukraine.
The election promise of the current Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelenski to make peace with the Russia aligned rebellious Donbas region by adhering to the Minsk 2 agreements was rewarded with a large share of southeastern votes for his presidency. However, after having been threatened with death by fascists, Zelenski has made a 180 degree turn and has since posed as Ukrainian nationalist. In consequence he has lost all support in southeastern Ukraine.
The southeastern parts of today's Ukraine have for centuries been part of the central Russian empire. They were only attached to the Soviet Republic of Ukraine under Lenin's rule in 1922 and, in the case of Crimea, in 1954 under Nikita Khrushchev who himself had grown up in the Donbas region".
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A compelling listen by the 'realists' Mearsheimer and Walt. A few months old and prescient.
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The movie scripts are being written already... reality when it dawns, will be harsh.
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Dr Paul Alexander who was on the White House Covid task force: "Their goal on a day to day basis was to undercut President Trump". (at about 1hr in)
What I Heard and Saw: Dr. Paul Alexander Speaks ⋆ Brownstone Institute
BROWNSTONE.ORGPaul Elias Alexander is the author of many literature reviews on Brownstone. His story of all his encounters is nothing short of...-
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Responses from Moon of Alabama
MoA - Ukraine - Dissecting Some War Propaganda News Items
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Just when you think Reuters journalists, Kyiv (et al) couldn't stoop lower, more anti-Russkie 'atrocity porn' to prepare the public for what will, regretfully, need to be done eventually by the West.
"Mass grave" - singular, and what that is associated with. Even respectfully burying the dead - of any nationality - will be of indoctrination use.
Mass grave of more than 440 bodies found in Izium, Ukraine, police say
WWW.REUTERS.COMUkrainian authorities have found a mass grave of more than 440 bodies in the eastern city of Izium that was recaptured from Russian forces, a... -
Ritter.
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What would the media reaction be to Russian assassins taking out Ukrainian "civilian officials"? One supposes Yelensky might realize he is also "a civilian official" and an "absolutely legitimate military target".
Ukraine admits killing civilians — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
WWW.RT.COMAttacks that Moscow has described as terrorism went after legitimate military targets, President Zelensky’s aide Podoliak insisted -
I'd been somewhat skeptical re: Putin's possible hyperbole of the "neo" Nazi power in Ukrainian politics and military, citing (in self-justification?) the brutal treatment of Donbas separatists by them, an aspect hardly covered or "debunked" by the Ukraine-fawning media. I'm more convinced now, learning that the racist/Nazi/Stepan Bandera legacy is being handed down to next generations.
From nurseries to Nazis: Ukraine’s terrorist radicalization of children | MR Online
MRONLINE.ORGAt the Azovets camp outside Kiev, anywhere from 400 to 500 children are given Nazi paramilitary training during the summer. These camps have been run every summer, and even during the spring, fall and winter, in every year since Maidan. The camps are free to the children and are financed by western grants and state funding from the Ministry of Youth and Sports of Ukraine.
The focus of the training is to kill “Moskals” and “Separatists.” Kids are taught to kill with assault rifles, carbines, pistols, knives and fists. Then they learn tactics, hand-to-hand combat, assembly and disassembly of submachine guns.
Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it. — Proverbs 22:6, New King James Version... -
When reasonable discourse stops working, (profane) satire might get through.
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A fellow I think gets things about right.
Sorting Out Ukrainian and Russian Red Herrings - A Son of the New American Revolution
SONAR21.COMThere are a couple of articles that may have come up on your radar and merit some discussion with regards to the war in Ukraine, the... -
The Ukraine's latest breakthrough is all to the good, since now's the opportunity for Zelensky to begin cease-fire and negotiation talks. While Ukraine has gained the (temporary) upper hand and has a stronger bargaining position, BUT we all know he won't, nor will his backers allow it. The true believers hold on to the fantasy that Putin's army will be chased out in disgrace. Never going to happen. But then they also believed Russia was after a total occupation of Ukraine. Russia's "SMO" at 190,000 was undermanned and out numbered for a full war, leave alone, occupation. It is fairly definite that Putin believed he could earlier intimidate Kyiv into giving in to his demands and to a negotiation, Donbass autonomy, neutral Ukraine, etc.., by first camping his troops on the border last year, and then by invading and feinting at Kyiv. Nearly worked, but that didn't bring about the talks, (sabotaged by Johnson) so the troops were deployed for the assault and the occupation of East and South Ukraine, the Plan B. To take this latest counter-offensive to signify a Russian rout, is insane. Front lines move, towns get lost and retaken, while holding the territory won back will be the difficult part for Ukraine. But the Russians won't lose Donbas and Crimea, bet on it. Putin can keep increasing the military strength as the resistance dictates. The Russian army has 1.9 million+ men in reserve, ten times the invading force.
Something people find hard to accept, from the day of invasion it was inevitable, Russia can NOT lose this limited war, under any circumstances, which is to "liberate" the Donbas and secure that border and get Putin's conditions met. So somebody had better start thinking of making peace with him.
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Puzzling how much of the normally anti-war Left has gone militaristic, joined up with neocons...
Insights by Caitlin Johnstone
Ukraine and the Triumph of Militarism – scheerpost.com
SCHEERPOST.COM"What [Tierney] is saying about liberals who once protested the Iraq invasion now supporting U.S. proxy warfare in Ukraine is broadly... -
14 hours ago, Peter said:
Notes from savethechildren: At least 1,888 schools have been damaged and destroyed by shelling and bombing since the conflict escalated on 24 February, according to Ukraine’s Ministry of Education and Science . . . .
Notes from Statista: The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) verified a total of 5,663 civilian deaths during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as of August 28, 2022. Of them, 365 were children. Furthermore, 8,055 people were reported to have been injured. However, OHCHR specified that the real numbers could be higher.
Well, keep up escalating the arms shipments, more precision and longer range, that would work wonders to save the children. And avoid negotiations.
https://www.rt.com/news/562245-us-aggressive-ukraine-support/
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Journalism got "owned" by activists. In the old style of Leftist war correspondents, on the ground, with guts dedicated to unearthing facts independently. Hedges and Lawrence. I miss their type. As for the others, subservient careerists who "have to write things that don't make any goddam sense". Such as, as has been fed to the believing public, it is the Russians, not Ukraine, who are shelling the nuclear power plant they've occupied for months, and kept operating.
The Chris Hedges Report: Ukraine and the Crisis of Media Censorship – scheerpost.com
SCHEERPOST.COMThroughout the Ukraine war, Western news outlets have mindlessly parroted the opinions of a ruling elite and overseen a public discourse...
Ukraine and Endless War for Profit
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