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10 minutes ago, Jules Troy said:

I predict 4 yrs of whinging...

Jules,

I agree, but we probably disagree right now on who will be doing the whinging...

Back to work...

and 

BREAKING: Trump Campaign Files Election Lawsuit with Wisconsin Supreme Court Challenging THOUSANDS of Illegal Ballots Cast and Counted in 2020 Election

A lot more coming...

:)

But why wait four years? Let's enjoy the whinging now:

MUH BARRRRRRRR...

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Another reason to look at the goings on around the Q Continuum is to understand the psychology of others, since we do, after all, live in a society where both the leadership and voters have an impact

With the metaphysical threats of China, the wuflu attack on western civilization, the rise of a brazen global oligarchy, and totalitarian ideas like the Great Reset, and the recent elections and kanga

A big difference between elitists doing crud in other countries and their doing it here is the Americans (the real ones) of whom there are still an abundant number in this country's populace.  America

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

William,

Here is a suggestion.

Why don't you spend time repeating what the mainstream fake news said Bill Barr said but didn't say?

Here, William.

No need to repeat the debunked.

I have some more breaking news you can repeat.

Go on and swing for the rafters...

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From an unnamed 'DOJ spokesperson,' my bolding: 

"Some media have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election. That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated. The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible."

Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome (apnews.com)

I think I said something about "reading past the headlines," and so agree with Michael's point about lots of headlines.


It's a good point. Short headlines with no subhed always leave something out, a context and sometimes even the actual main line of the story's claims. Many of the outlets that Memeorandum samples from (automated, algorithmicly) will add extra editoral slant or spin or tease out a speculative implication in a headline. 

The two "headline" minutes of Lou Dobbs I shared seems to indicate that Lou is/was convinced that Bill Barr is/was up to no good.  What is he reacting to? 

Donald Trump is a Lou Dobbs fan, by some tellings. Is Lou trying some persuasion mojo?


 

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37 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

The two "headline" minutes of Lou Dobbs I shared seems to indicate that Lou is/was convinced that Bill Barr is/was up to no good.  What is he reacting to? 

Donald Trump is a Lou Dobbs fan, by some tellings. Is Lou trying some persuasion mojo?

William,

I doubt it.

I just think he's pissed to the gills. If you see the witnesses in the hearings--I know it's a slog because they are so long--even if you're on Biden's side, you have to wonder how on earth the FBI has not been investigating this.

I mean, for God's sakes, take a look at just one case. There is a trucker whistleblower who said he transported tens of thousands of filled out ballots across state lines, from New York to Pennsylvania, where he had to wait 6 hours without being allowed to open his trailer, then ordered to go to Lancaster, MI. He was told to obey a person who is not his typical boss and denied his normal paperwork, which he wanted to prove the screw-up was not his fault, and to guarantee his overtime. Once in Michigan, after he parked the trailer and went to his accommodations to sleep, when he woke up, his trailer was gone.

(btw - Denying paperwork was a really amateurish move by the bad guys. Tractor trailers have GPS, there are video cameras all over the place, toll booth records, etc. etc., etc., to verify a story like that.)

How many federal crimes are in that story alone? Just one story among oodles of stories... Yet the FBI doesn't investigate it.

Then, on top of everything, you find out that Barr appointed Durham Special Counsel for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation--and only the Crossfire Hurricane investigation--in October without telling anyone, it gets really frustrating.

I think Lou Dobbs is making a stink to let Barr know this shit is pissing people off.

If you want to call that persuasion mojo, I guess it could be called that... In the same manner Mike Tyson says, "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."

:) 

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3 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

I predict 4 yrs of whinging...

Here you go, Jules.

The whinging has started early.

Watch the video and you will see what I mean.

Man, wait until Kemp and this yo yo go to jail along with their buds.

Then we will get some quality whinging... Lots and lots of it...

:evil:  :) 

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On 11/27/2020 at 12:09 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

... all we need is one properly formatted lawsuit to find its way to the Supreme Court and Section 230 goes bye-bye for big tech. I don't know the Constitutional grounds, but I imagine it would have something to do with equal treatment under the law. Right now, big tech gets privileged treatment (exemption) for liability laws. I bet there are other Constitutional provisions that are being infringed, also.

Also, I bet President Trump can suspend Section 230 by Executive Order and somehow invoke a National Security provision in it that transfers legality to the military.

Or maybe by the legislature.

If President Trump vetoes the NDAA, a butt load of big fat National Defense contracts go into the toilet, at least for a while.

Billions and billions and billions of dollars...

:)

Like it or not, this is something a President would do right before invoking martial law (the Insurrection Act.).

Cut off money and/or communications of the traitors.

A little birdy is telling me, though, the military is going to take the money and screw big tech.

Taking the money and screwing everyone else is kinda what they do...

:) 

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Wow...

I wonder how many civil servants exist that are like Dr. Linda Lee Tarver. I bet there are many.

She served years under a corrupt system, letting her frustration and resentment and anger build up. Finally, when she got to retire and her retirement wages were ensured, she just opened up and let it all out, pointing to where the bodies are buried, where the corruption vulnerabilities are at a technical level, etc. etc. etc.

Even then, Dr. Tarver must realize she is putting herself and her family at risk from hired thugs.

There are many good people in this country.

This was an amazing testimony.

I think she is going to become a rock star in taking down election fraud.

Michael

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8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Like it or not, this is something a President would do right before invoking martial law (the Insurrection Act.).

And then there's this, today:
 

 

All this talk about military tribunals and martial law...hmmm...where have we heard this, before? It's vaguely familiar, as if someone, or some group of someones, was trying to tell us something...

Fascinating...This is the kind of thing that might want to make some doubting Spocks to reconsider the possibility of the  Q Continuum...

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For those interested in reading it, this is the main call for martial law being bandied about.

Sorry, I don't have text yet. I think they are avoiding that in order to cut down on fake versions. So, for now, read the image. If I find a text version, I will put it here in this post.

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Agree or disagree, there is rational thought going on here.

And legal and historical precedents.

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On 11/29/2020 at 12:56 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The Sidney Kraken is now going after Virginia.

That was then, and this is now:

🔴 LIVE: Sidney Powell and Lin Wood Hold Press Conference in Atlanta 12/2/20 - YouTube

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On 11/26/2020 at 2:16 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I just read the whole Kraken for Georgia, although I did not read the Exhibits (which were not online when I did this) and I have not seen what other people have said about it yet.

In my view, it was not a sexy attack, but instead an attack by a large number of precision cuts.

Just released is a transcript of a hearing in the Georgia "Kraken" case: 

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20-11-29 Pearson v Kemp 120cv4809 F (democracydocket.com)

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Re the petition for some kind of Martial Law and associated round-ups and media shut-downs ...

4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

For those interested in reading it, this is the main call for martial law being bandied about.

Sorry, I don't have text yet. I think they are avoiding that in order to cut down on fake versions. So, for now, read the image. If I find a text version, I will put it here in this post.

At the "We the People Convention" link, you can read the full text if you click the button at the bottom of the page.

We DEMAND a Re-Vote NOW! | We the People Convention | wethepeopleconvention.org

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~1500 words. 

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WE DEMAND A NATIONAL RE-VOTE

 

 Exercising Extraordinary Authority in Defense of Our Vote
May be Required because Martial Law is better than Civil War!


In the months following the start of the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln struggled to preserve the Union. Many objected to Lincoln’s extraordinary use of Presidential authority, in particular his suspension of the right of “Habeas Corpus”. On June 12, 1863 Lincoln defended his extreme measures in a letter published in the New York Times. Citing Article I of the Constitution he argued: “Ours is a case of rebellion…in fact, a clear, flagrant, and gigantic case of rebellion; and the provision of the Constitution that ‘the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when, in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it’, is the provision which specifically applies to our present case.” Lincoln used the same reasoning in justifying a series of extraordinary Presidential Orders:

• Lincoln ordered hundreds of Northern newspapers that spoke against him to be shut down and their owners and editors arrested.
• Lincoln ordered the arrest of Ohio Congressman Clement Vallandigham for the crime of speaking out against him.
• Chief Justice of the US Roger Taney ruled that Lincoln had violated the US Constitution when he illegally suspended the Writ of Habeas Corpus. After hearing this Lincoln signed an arrest warrant to have the Chief Justice of the U.S. arrested.
• Lincoln ordered the arrest of thousands in Maryland for the crime of “suspected Southern sympathies” including ordering the arrest of US Congressman Henry May from Maryland. These people were arrested and held in military prisons, without trial, some of them for years.

While some debate these measures still today, no one disagrees that Lincoln and his use of Presidential power were responsible for saving the Republic. While History, and even former President Obama, has judged Lincoln as perhaps our greatest President, few would have agreed at the time he took those actions. Then, as now, a President with courage and determination was needed to preserve the Union. Today, the current threat to our United States by the international and domestic socialist/communist left is much more serious than anything Lincoln or our nation has faced in its history - including the civil war.

We have well-funded, armed and trained marxists in ANTIFA and BLM strategically positioned in our major cities acting openly with violence to silence opposition to their anti-American agenda. Attacking federal buildings and police, cowardly punching innocent people in the back of the head, assaulting people just eating in restaurants, and burning minority-owned businesses to the ground. All with elected officials in Democrat/Socialist-controlled cities openly encouraging this planned violence against civilians and businesses. Then, to advance their cause, these socialists are acting to “Defund the Police,” creating chaos and suspending the rule of law that protects millions of average, and particularly minority, Americans. The results being massive increases in violent crime and deaths in our cities and the destruction of small businesses orchestrated by those politicians and leftist groups, many funded by domestic and international communists. We are literally under attack from within!

Then there are admitted Democrat/Socialist federal officials plotting to finish gutting the US Constitution after 100 years of trying. They promise to take away critical individual rights like free speech, religious freedom and the 2nd Amendment; destroy states rights by eliminating the electoral college and more; pack the Supreme Court with activist anti-constitutionalist judges who will make law from the bench; give the right to vote to tens of millions of non-Americans; and open our borders to more illegals which will reduce wages. No one voted for these things that were hidden from the majority of Americans by the corrupt media. Not only do we have corrupt media, like in Lincoln’s day, we have a new and more sinister form of media in Big Tech, actively censoring free speech and promoting leftist propaganda to blind our citizens to their real goals and the real consequences of their actions - the end of America as we have known it.

The Socialist Left has been openly working to destroy the United States since Obama promised and tried to “transform” America in 2008-16, and having been stopped by the will of the American people, they openly staged a four year long coup attempt to remove the duly elected President. Culminating in this corrupt and provably fraudulent current election planned to illegally and un-constitutionally deny the American people their most sacred honor, right and privilege - which is the right to elect their Representatives! How can we have a Representative Republic if we cannot hold fair elections to elect our Representatives? There is no doubt that this attempted stealing of these elections again “is a case of rebellion…in fact, a clear, flagrant, and gigantic case of rebellion” that requires exercising extraordinary authority to preserve our Union.

President Trump, you and every other official in our local, state and federal governments, and everyone in law enforcement and in our military have sworn an oath that says “I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” It is time for everyone who swore that oath to act upon it. The enemies are within our gates and our Constitution and Nation are in real risk of being lost to this socialist/communist invasion unless you act decisively.

At least half of all Americans do not and will not accept this fraudulent election because of the eyewitness testimony, and the material, statistical and mathematical evidence of OVERWHELMING fraud. The other half will not accept the outcome if the courts see the evidence of fraud and rightfully overturn the election! The Left has literally been planning riots just for that occasion for months. We the People must not and WILL NOT cede our exclusive Constitutional right to elect our Representatives to judges, lawyers, courts, Governors, Secretary’s of State, Congress, corrupt election officials and local politicians, the corrupt media - or Leftist threats of violence! It is OUR EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to decide our Representatives not theirs! Therefore, We the People MUST demand a NEW and fair national vote, a vote that all Americans can trust and live by regardless of the winner! Without a fair vote, we fear, with good reason, the threat of a shooting civil war is imminent. Gun sales are at an all time high and 40% are first time gun owners looking to defend themselves, their property, and their rights. Therefore, Mr. President you must act now before there is no peaceful way left to preserve our Union.

When the legislators, courts and/or Congress fail to do their duty under the 12th Amendment, you must be ready Mr. President to immediately declare a limited form of Martial Law, and temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections, for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote. A vote that assures a fair election in every jurisdiction and reflects the true will of the people. Federal candidates only. Paper ballots. No computers. Hand-counted with both parties watching every vote. Only registered voters. Photo ID to prove residence. Conducted safely with everyone wearing masks and six feet apart, just like we did in Ohio. Only then can the winning candidate be accepted as legitimate by a true majority of We the People who must give our consent to be justly governed! Unfortunately we are at a point where we can only trust our military to do this because our corrupt political class and courts have proven their inability to act fairly and within the law.

You must also act, like Lincoln did, to silence the destructive media’s one-sided propaganda designed and proven to influence the election outcome, and end the unlawful censorship of Big Tech, to restore the confidence of the American People in our electoral process or we cannot continue as a nation. Failure to do so could result in massive violence and destruction on a level not seen since the Civil War. Limited Martial Law is clearly a better option than Civil War!

Many will object to these actions, as they did in Lincoln’s day, but we assure you that We the People understand that no less action will suffice to prevent the loss of our Constitutional right to vote and preserve our Republic. It is time to honor your oath, Mr. President. It is time for you to boldly act to save our nation as Lincoln did. We the People will support a national re-vote. We will also have no other choice but to take matters into our own hands, and defend our rights on our own, if you do not act within your powers to defend us.


Paid For by the We the People Convention
Thomas R. Zawistowski, President
www.WethePeopleConvention.org

 

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I watched the rally in Georgia with Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.

Then I looked around the Internet at the comments.

Both Lin Wood and Sidney Powell were emphatic that if the Georgia runoff on January 5 is held on Dominion machines, people should stay home. They should not vote. And the crowd went wild each time they said that.

I love how this suddenly is scaring the shit out of anti-Trump Republicans and establishment politicians in general. :)

It's exposing their backroom game.

It's also sending a message that there is a huge swath of people who no longer give a fuck about maintaining a crooked system. They will see it torn down before they will continue in it as it stands.

In Randian terms, this is what removing one's sanction looks like in concrete terms. 

She once said (in "The Anatomy of Compromise"):

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1. In any conflict between two men (or two groups) who hold the same basic principles, it is the more consistent one who wins.

2. In any collaboration between two men (or two groups) who hold different basic principles, it is the more evil or irrational one who wins.

3. When opposite basic principles are clearly and openly defined, it works to the advantage of the rational side; when they are not clearly defined, but are hidden or evaded, it works to the advantage of the irrational side.

The establishment people on both sides know people like Lin Wood and Sidney Powell and people who are on board with them do not get cowed into submission, but instead become sparks that light huge forest fires.

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If anyone is feeling down right now (the fake news media is in overdrive), please look at the hearings. They will restore your sanity.

Here is just a small clip from a lady testifying who was a Dominion employee and who worked in the election. She is pissed.

The US is full of people like her.

And they are not going away.

To repeat Rand: "When opposite basic principles are clearly and openly defined, it works to the advantage of the rational side..."

The hearings are exposing the opposite basic principles and who is trying to hide the irrational ones (dead people can vote, etc.). It is pissing off rational people.

So take heart. You are not alone.

There is a reckoning coming...

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I watched the rally in Georgia with Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.

Then I looked around the Internet at the comments.

Both Lin Wood and Sidney Powell were emphatic that if the Georgia runoff on January 5 is held on Dominion machines, people should stay home. They should not vote. And the crowd went wild each time they said that.

I love how this suddenly is scaring the shit out of anti-Trump Republicans and establishment politicians in general. :)

It's exposing their backroom game.

It's also sending a message that there is a huge swath of people who no longer give a fuck about maintaining a crooked system. They will see it torn down before they will continue in it as it stands.

In Randian terms, this is what removing one's sanction looks like in concrete terms. 

She once said (in "The Anatomy of Compromise"):

The establishment people on both sides know people like Lin Wood and Sidney Powell and people who are on board with them do not get cowed into submission, but instead become sparks that light huge forest fires.

Michael

"This is not another four-year election." Ain't that the truth!

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On 12/1/2020 at 10:11 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

There is a trucker whistleblower who said he transported tens of thousands of filled out ballots across state lines, from New York to Pennsylvania, where he had to wait 6 hours without being allowed to open his trailer, then ordered to go to Lancaster, MI. He was told to obey a person who is not his typical boss and denied his normal paperwork, which he wanted to prove the screw-up was not his fault, and to guarantee his overtime. Once in Michigan, after he parked the trailer and went to his accommodations to sleep, when he woke up, his trailer was gone.

(btw - Denying paperwork was a really amateurish move by the bad guys. Tractor trailers have GPS, there are video cameras all over the place, toll booth records, etc. etc., etc., to verify a story like that.)

How many federal crimes are in that story alone? Just one story among oodles of stories...

Here is the same whistleblower being interviewed on Lou Dobbs (and retweeted by President Trump).

Note the detail that he was transporting hundreds of thousands of FILLED OUT ballots across states lines IN OCTOBER.

The other details in the story I mentioned above were in his testimony in the hearings. And, no doubt, a lot of other details I never mentioned.

There is one thing I really liked about what he said in this interview.

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Lou Dobbs: So, I've got to ask you this. Two weeks. You've stepped forward. Were you treated differently? Did anything change as a subcontractor to the US Postal Service? I want to know if you.ve been threatened as well.

Jesse Morgan: There's... Let's just say this, Lou, that there have been a lot of things that has happened to me leading up to yesterday since I've come out. There's a lot of things that we aren't talking about that I've been told to be kinda quiet on just for investigation.

Finally a hint that a law enforcement investigation is going on.

And this at the end:

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Jesse Morgan: Can I say one thing?

Lou Dobbs: ... what you've done is very brave... Yes sir. You may.

Jesse Morgan: I just want to say, like, if there's anyone else out there that's been in the same shoes that I have, don't be afraid to come out. They're just intimidating you. Don't be scared to come out. And I will say, Lou, going through this whole experience, I will say that this whole system is really corrupt. It is really corrupt. And I'll put that right out there. And I'll challenge everyone... I challenge everyone, law enforcement, the congressmen, I challenge people, do something different. Do something different for your country. Stand up for your country.

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Turkeyfoot quoted: For the Ninth Circuit - Elena Kagan, Associate Justice(Alaska, Arizona, California, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, Northern Mariana Islands, Washington) end quote

“That’s one small step for (a) man; one giant leap for mankind.” Neil Armstrong

From Great American Daily . . . . Trump campaign advisor Matt Schlapp celebrated the ruling in an interview on “Hannity” where he outlined the egregious examples of fraud the campaign intended to present in court. “For the first time in this whole tragic story of the 2020 presidential election, a state court has granted Republicans in Nevada and the Trump campaign, the ability to present their case of widespread illegal balloting, and to just depose up to 15 people who know what went down in Clark County in the state of Nevada, so this is big news you know a lot of people in the national media have said, you know, if you have evidence of voter fraud, show it,” Schlapp stated.

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I stated previously that I thought that voter fraud was isolated cases and not a “grand conspiracy” but perhaps AG Barr will look into Nevada and change his mind. Was there massive collusion? Was there a master plan? Who was the leader and who were the conspirators and the manipulators . . .  and cheats . . .  during the 2020 election? I think and hope, AG Barr and company are looking into everything. Peter

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Deep State going down.

This is called messaging and it is starting to become commonplace in the mainstream.

Once this gets to fever pitch, it will be time for President Trump and his team to see what can and should be done as the next step.

If I were one of the rats on the ship of the bad guys, I would be jumping right now if I had not already done so. And if I were one of the bad guys stuck on the inside, but with the ability to see reality clearly, I would be terrified.

The great thing about the truth is that the fight is to expose it to sunlight. Unlike the fight of the bad guys. Their fight is to cover things up.

And we all know what they say about committing crime and covering it up. When caught, the cover-up is generally worse than the crime.

In the attempted theft of the election, I think both are going to have similar weight.

The bad guys sure are digging themselves in more and more each day.

Michael

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It’s 1:42 am on Thursday here on the east coast. I know I have been a bit slow on the news and not all that informed . . . but per Fox, whistle blowers are coming forward all across America, as reiterated on a late night, rerun version of the show Hannity.  

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12 minutes ago, Peter said:

It’s 1:42 am on Thursday here on the east coast. I know I have been a bit slow on the news and not all that informed . . . but per Fox, whistle blowers are coming forward all across America, as reiterated on a late night, rerun version of the show Hannity.  

Peter,

So it's not just me.

Today is the first day I have seen the election fraud witnesses on Fox shows, including Hannity, Tucker, Ingraham, and even Lou Dobbs. I have been constantly frustrated by the fact that Fox shows won't show them, not even clips from the hearings.

I didn't mention this because I don't watch a lot of TV. Kat likes the news shows at night (she likes to nap in front of them before going to bed :) ). But all of a sudden, here comes election fraud witnesses on one Fox show after another (the good guys, not those new collectivists and authoritarians). I watched, fascinated.

Something broke at Fox and it seems like permission was given.

I saw Hannity tonight, too, and he kept reiterating that he has never allowed interference in his show about content and he never will. After about the 15th time he said that, you kind of get it.

He protests too much.

His branding problems for the future are not my problem. Right now, there is a legal abomination to be fought with the highest stakes possible.

At any rate, another barrier to the truth has been breached. Hopefully it will stay breached.

Just watch this thing grow.

Michael

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