Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said: If that's what he is saying, he has it very wrong. Korben, There is a question nobody has asked up to now. Where did he get that notion of Rand from? (Irvine? ) What Rand-lovers around him talk to him about her ideas? (Yes, there are some very Rand-friendly people around him.) For example, in the Q&A to the talk at the link above, but reposted below for convenience, Bannon mentioned the Eric Cantor overthrow in Virginia. He didn't talk about David Brat in this Q&A, but he supported Brat and Brat is a supporter of Ayn Rand, albeit he's not a Randian. 3 hours ago, william.scherk said: This Is How Steve Bannon Sees The Entire World (full transcript) btw - Read that Q&A if you wish. I think you will be heartened by the worldview. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I hold that philosophy (and law) are made for human beings ... The following is tricky and I'm not certain on legalities, but I hold psychological bullying of a kid is evil. I've addressed it several times. If a kid cries out in anguish, any doctor, neighbor, passerby can raise the alarm. Where it gets really slippery is public schools, when kids are crippled by teachers. I had to intervene several times because my kid got punched and kicked by a teacher's child in her class -- a really unqualified teacher to boot. However, that's not the core legal problem. Government of any kind has to address and deal with parties in dispute, the combined might of a community, and custody of people who are legally or mentally incapable of conducting their own affairs. Evil is fairly straightforward. Custody isn't. Compelling testimony is legal aggression. Losing an election is a catastrophe for special snowflakes and schoolteachers. "I couldn't stop crying!" and "I vomited!" are dispositive proof that Trump is a bad man -- not that these people are mentally unbalanced. Their own paranoia is cited to show how evil their enemies are. [Ann Coulter column today] and the subject of child abuse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 "Compelling testimony is legal aggression." Would you unpack this a bit? If I witness a crime am I not complicit in that crime if I refuse to be a witness, all else being equal? I am not talking about an ancillary consideration such as fearing for my life, etc. The only cost is going to court and testifying. I see this as the basic question and want to know if you take issue with any complicity. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 17 hours ago, Mikee said: " a man with no consistent ideological grounding, " A man with a perfectly consistent ideological grounding is like a broken clock. When right, absolutely right! But wrong most of the time. See "The True Believer". A person with consistent ideological grounding tells the right time twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Reactions to the President-elect are turning vile, even here, so hateful that in fact the Left's true colours have clearly emerged. Social Democrats, they might call themselves, but neither social nor democratic are they. The majority has spoken, live with it, put up and shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, anthony said: Reactions to the President-elect are turning vile, even here, so hateful that in fact the Left's true colours have clearly emerged. Social Democrats, they might call themselves, but neither social nor democratic are they. The majority has spoken, live with it, put up and shut up. The Hillary got a high popular vote count than the Donald. So the majority has spoken, but that is not how we elect a president under our constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 47 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said: The Hillary got a high popular vote count than the Donald. So the majority has spoken, but that is not how we elect a president under our constitution. Quite. I get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If I remember right, one at least of the Founders was more worried about democracy than of monarchy. (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I don't know how anybody in our neck of the woods thinks the following is a bad idea, but I'm going to have a great time watching them either slowly come around or stew in their own bile as this vision becomes reality. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Hahahaha... Yesterday, Trump met with Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York City. After listening to de Blasio go on and on about inclusiveness, diversity, oppression, how fearful the residents of the city are, how government leaders have to keep the big picture of big social issues in mind, they finally got down to business. A lot of traffic jams are occurring around Trump Tower and the city is going into holiday mode, so Mayor Bill de Blasio needs President-elect Donald Trump to fix New York's traffic for him. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 will be a start. I don’t like people using public office as a springboard to reap corrupt wealth. But, I have just always been of two minds about term limits, though it makes great sense for the Presidency to have a two term limit. I would not want to wave bye to Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. Does England or other countries have limits on their Parliaments? I doubt the House of Lords does but that is antiquated. Earlier, I only heard one sentence on Fox before I had to leave but it was intriguing. President Trump will help Americans save trillions of dollars by eliminating thousands of regulations. Trillions with a “T.” Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Peter said: I would not want to wave bye to Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. Peter, How about Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Looks like Trump is going to meet with Romney to talk about a possible cabinet post. How's that for shaking things up? I don't know what will come of this, but the press just can't stop talking about Trump... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Peter, How about Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi? Michael Is that "Taps" I hear? From the Hollywood Reporter, Tom Hanks: We are going to be all right because we constantly get to tell the world who we are. We constantly get to define ourselves as American. We do have the greatest country in the world. We move at a slow pace. We have the greatest country in the world because we are always moving towards a more perfect union. That journey never ceases, it never stops. Sometimes, to quote a Springsteen song, it’s “one step forward, two steps back,” but we still aggregately move forward. We, who are a week into wondering what the hell just happened, will continue to move forward. We have to choose to do so, but we will move forward because if we do not move forward, what is to be said of us? This is the United States of America. We’ll go on. There’s great like-minded people out there who are Americans first and Republicans or Democrats second. I hope the president-elect does such a great job that I vote for his re-election in four years. end quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Looks like Michael Flynn is going to be the National Security Advisor. Badass... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 More badassery: Just got a call from my friend Bill Ford, Chairman of Ford, who advised me that he will be keeping the Lincoln plant in Kentucky - no Mexico— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2016 and I worked hard with Bill Ford to keep the Lincoln plant in Kentucky. I owed it to the great State of Kentucky for their confidence in me!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 12 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said: The Hillary got a high popular vote count than the Donald. So the majority has spoken, but that is not how we elect a president under our constitution. The candidates were running for the electorial votes. As someone else said, if it were by popular vote each would have waged a different campaign. Then there's that ole voter fraudie thingy. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Brant Gaede said: The candidates were running for the electorial votes. As someone else said, if it were by popular vote each would have waged a different campaign. Brant, Trump himself said it: If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2016 and The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2016 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorbenDallas Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Trump himself said it: If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2016 So Trump hypothetically wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 5 hours ago, KorbenDallas said: So Trump hypothetically wins? Korben, No. Donald Trump definitively won. He is saying here that the legal rules were one way, so he campaigned in reality one way and kicked Clinton's ass. If the legal rules were different, he would have campaigned in a different manner and kicked Clinton's ass. In other words, Trump adapts the legal rules to the reality he encounters, then adjusts his strategies accordingly. And he wins. He likes to produce and he likes to win. That's why he builds big beautiful skyscrapers and runs them within capitalism and dogmatic ideologues do not. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Trump took credit for stopping Ford from moving plant to Mexico, but it wasn't planning to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, merjet said: Trump took credit for stopping Ford from moving plant to Mexico, but it wasn't planning to Merlin, LOL... I expect there is going to be a bunch of companies that had no plans--none, do you hear me, not one--to move out of the USA, but decided to stay and will take the effort to tell the president-elect they decided to stay. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Jeff Sessions attorney general. Badass... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Mike Pompeo CIA director. Not badass... Wait and see... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfoot Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 57 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Mike Pompeo CIA director. Not badass... Wait and see... Michael I dont know about that. #1 in his West Point class. Owned and sold a successful business. A lawyer. And has been openly critical of Obama. Reading his views I see that hes for bringing Snowden back and executing him. While I appreciate Snowden committed an unlawful treasonous act, I will forever be in his debt as the person who revealed NSA's spy program. I dont know if those revelations contributed to public knowledge which ultimately led to public pressure and Apples' subsequent approach to their software that made them unbreakable. But anything that can cast a light on the internal workings of big brother are good things to know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo I know Sly is a Trump supporter. Perhaps Rambo? Hoekstra is the other mention, a congressman for 28 yrs. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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