inquiry Impeachment thread corral
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No one knows at the moment how the impeachment process will end up, though OL members will generally have in memory the Nixon and Clinton impeachment efforts for use in comparing and contrasting. At the present moment, nose-counting wonks have counted noses, providing spreadsheets of current House members who have indicated they support an impeachment inquiry. There is enough to agree articles of impeachment at last count -- if the process gets that far (see also the Politico breakdown of impeachment-supporters).
I'll add in links to extant discussion in varied front-page threads and beef up a rough timeline [over the next couple of days].
The so-called whistleblower's "whistleblow" has been allowed to emerge in slightly redacted form -- Dated August 12, 2019: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6430376-Whistleblower-Complaint.html
-- this is what is being examined in the House right now.
Previously ...
I'll ask that folks who may join in commentary here keep the personal insults to a minimum, if possible. Refer to the OL Posting Guidelines, please.
Keys to understanding what may come down the pike is ... what has come down the pike already. In other words, a list of names of interest from roughly 2014 until now. Ukraine is at the nexus of the foreign-policy muddle between the United States and Russia.
Names and entities to keep track and/or place on a timeline range from (presidents) Yanukovych, Poroschenko, Zelenskyy to prosecutors-general Yarema, Shokin, Sevruk, Lutsenko.
For a reminder of what Ukrainian corruption looks like, the palatial estate of former president Yanukovych, who fled the country during the showdown known as "Euromaidan."
At the risk of alienating a few readers, I'll be referring to a few 'mistrusted' writers and outlets who have cobbled together various timelines and constellations of events. interpretations and spin.
Any timeline will be necessarily limited, but the simpler ones can be double-checked for factual, 'on the record' events. There are a lot of factors to be accounted for, suggestions entertained and claims tested.
The most expansive timelines will come after the first spate of tell-all books whose "pitches" will be landing on editors' desks this week.
An objectivist hierarchy of conceptual knowledge is more like a database than a list or timeline, maybe. This is kind of a first wrong stab at how various states could be tied to a index/timeline.
Open question: how do you best organize 'what you know' or 'what is claimed' about the last five years of Ukrainian-USA-Russia-EU events?
| Foreign policy and corruption | Russian interests, actions, explanations | ||||||
| Associated timeline of events | |||||||
| Date | Ukraine President | Ukraine Prosecutor | Person of interest | Cases adjudicated, abandoned, avoided (in US and Ukraine | Trump -- campaign actors / Ukraine policy | Trump administration Ukraine policy | |
| Cases of international significance. |
Meetings, contact, employment, associated suspicions
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| 2012-2017 Manafort-Ukraine | Manafort FARA | ||||||
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"What impeachment is all about is certain people are going down."
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