Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Right. If a mass murderer uses his rational thought to achieve his goal, he's living "qua man". No doubt that's what Rand meant by survival as "man qua man"...Dragonfly,The real issue is to understand the standard "man qua man." This phrase means that man will use his reason to attain his goals. He will also use his reason to choose his goals. So the mass murderer is using his reason to attain his goals but not to choose them. To the extent he is using his reason, he is living "qua man" (but only to that extent, since there is a part where he does not use his reason). I cannot imagine a bear or tiger going on a mass murder rampage planned over several weeks. They cannot exist "qua man."This is all pretty elementary.The kind of objection you made commits the same error that you accuse Rand of making: oversimplifying to the point of being ridiculous.Michael(Note: There was an error in the phrase "So the mass murderer is using his reason to attain his goals but not to choose them" that is given and corrected in posts below. It has been corrected here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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