Backlighting Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Nov. 9th. marked the 37th. anniversary of Frank O'Connor's death. Here's a remembrance from The Atlas Society: http://atlassociety.org/commentary/commentary-blog/6101-5-things-to-know-about-frank-o-connor-ayn-rand-s-husband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 handsome dope she married to stay in USA, painted a little and drank, called her Fluff, handsome in death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backlighting Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Now now, be nice. -J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 A "dope"? Dunno. Different brain function than his wife and lower testosterone than an alpha male. Generally a brainiac doesn't want another brainiac for a mate for brainiacs tend to bounce off each other. And alphas--Rand was an alpha for the ages, but not an alpha male of course--bounce off alphas, except in military situations where men are buffered by discipline and rank and the need to kill the enemy's alphas. In the personal setup, everybody essentially got what they wanted even if lying was necessary to make it all work. Then Nathaniel Branden stopped lying, leaving Ayn Rand with the truth. Brutal. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wolf, Frank O'Connor wasn't a dope. He was an average person who had good taste and a good heart. Ayn Rand projected her brand of heroism on him. He ignored that and loved her anyway. A dope to me is a stupid person (someone who causes loss to others and gains nothing or even causes loss to himself). If I ever wanted to use hyperbole or a metaphor to denote Frank's average Joe nature, I would say he was a small potato, but I would say it affectionately. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Considering your definition, it appears that I'm the dope (loss to others, gains nothing, etc) well-established fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, wolfdevoon said: Considering your definition, it appears that I'm the dope (loss to others, gains nothing, etc) well-established fact. Wolf, LOL... I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole... I have my own demons haunting me, thank you very much... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Wolf, LOL... I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole... I have my own demons haunting me, thank you very much... Michael so I change my characterization of Frank O'Connor accordingly -- a nice fellow, sort of my antithesis in that way the Alpha nature of Rand was a shrewd comment, explains several of my marriages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinReborn Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Frank is a bit of a mystery to me, I wander how much of a connection there is between him and Francisco d'Anconia. I also question whether he influenced Rand's earlier writings (she mentioned that she'd heard Frank's ideas and rejected them as ridiculous, but her whole Hickman based story was pretty ridiculous too). FWIW Frank was an atheist before he met Ayn Rand. Given the attitudes of that era I would say that fact alone put him well above average in both intelligence and courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 a reference please, how you know Frank O'Connor the actor was an atheist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinReborn Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Barbara Branden's book. Also an interview with Donahue where Rand claimed "he was more of an atheist than myself... if that were possible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Thanks, Robin. Like everything else, it sort of floats away into myth-making, everything and everyone larger than life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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