Conspiracy theories and Conspiracy theorists

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

One of the reasons Alex Jones stuff seems to have calmed down is that the major Internet platforms are giving him a different treatment than they give normal users. They are blocking a lot of his stuff with hidden algorithms. The Google ad platform canceled his account--not for him to receive money from them, but from paying them money to advertise his vitamin supplements. Now on Homeland they have a character modeled after Alex who does things that are so violent and exaggerated, they are like a bigoted stereotype. And finally Alec Baldwin went on SNL and had his imitation Trump say that black people are not really human and he learned that from Alex Jones.

So Alex blew his top. It was a hell of a rant where he called out Alec for a bare-knuckles boxing match. By the end, he said he only wanted to do that if it was legal, but bare-knuckle fighting wasn't legal. 

Now he's making a public apology to Alec Baldwin, if you can imagine that calling someone the "scum of the earth" an apology.  

The disturbing part about this is that free speech means free speech.

If anyone is glad they are trying to shut Alex down in this manner because they don't want his speech in the public marketplace, that might be a premise you want to check. When disagreement is fought with truth, that is a good thing. When it is fought with engineered behavioral science by elitists in backroom deals to promote a hateful stereotype of a target, that is another. That is called propaganda of the vilest sort.

So if you don't like Alex Jones, but you like what they are doing to him and you wish they would make him go away, be careful with what you wish for. You just might get it. Then don't be surprised when they start taking out your public voice, or the that of the people you admire.

The good news is that it will probably be impossible to take Alex out short of killing him. There are too many people who support him to reduce his audience to inconsequential, and there are too many moneyed and powerful people who support him to leave him without any broadcasting platform at all.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

18 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

So Alex blew his top. It was a hell of a rant where he called out Alec for a bare-knuckles boxing match.

For anyone who wants to see it, here it is.

You might say he got triggered.

Michael

[william.scherk]

Pizza-lover David Brock, and the leaked 'confidential' Media Matters for America plan of action:

https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump

Edited March 14, 2017 by william.scherk

[william.scherk]

someone with the last name Snowden was a witness to the collision involving @RogerJStoneJr. What a world. https://t.co/aHzW3yjaST

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 16, 2017

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

The anti-Trumper kept falsely accusing Alex Jones of pushing Pizzagate so much that he's finally starting to report on elite pedophile rings.

However, he's doing it a bit differently. Here he is interviewing Col. Anthony Shaffer:

Incidentally, according to them, it looks like Anthony Weiner is going down big-time for child porn or maybe pedophilia.

I like Col. Shaffer's explanation of "brown-stoning." This is having a beautiful woman seduce a politician, then later entice him to sleep with an underage girl (saying she's older than she is), but secretly filming the act to blackmail him.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here's Roger Stone talking about the accident.

From his description, although he didn't claim it, it does sound like an assassination attempt disguised as an accident. One of the indications is that the license plate of the car that T-Boned him and fled was obscured.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

As long as I'm in an Alex Jones moment, here he is interviewing James O'Keefe.

The story is on Infowars:

Project Veritas Exposes Attorney Who Helped Pedophile Teacher Get Away With Raping Students At Knifepoint
Teacher who forced students to have oral sex decades ago may still be on the prowl

The video of the sting is in the article, but here it is, too:

Like I said, Alex is going after the pedophilia thing a little differently than trying to burn a pizza parlor.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

And here's the attorney's comment on the sting:

In the middle, he sounds really scared.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

The very last conspiracy theory of tonight comes from John McCain.

He thinks Rand Paul works for Putin.

I kid you not.

John McCain: Rand Paul ‘Is Now Working for Vladimir Putin’

He said it on the Senate floor for the record.

The issue was over the small nation Montenegro joining NATO (and McCain's buds getting their pockets filled with contracts for military equipment to help the newcomer fulfil its duties and for the US to defend it).

Rand Paul said no deal and McCain blew his stack.

Michael

[BaalChatzaf]

7 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The very last conspiracy theory of tonight comes from John McCain.

He thinks Rand Paul works for Putin.

I kid you not.

John McCain: Rand Paul ‘Is Now Working for Vladimir Putin’

He said it on the Senate floor for the record.

The issue was over the small nation Montenegro joining NATO (and McCain's buds getting their pockets filled with contracts for military equipment to help the newcomer fulfil its duties and for the US to defend it).

Rand Paul said no deal and McCain blew his stack.

Michael

If McCain had said "What Rand Paul advocates would be of benefit to Putin"  he might be onto something.  But McCain, like most neuro-typicals  perhaps thinks he can see what is going on in Rand Paul's brain and thereby impute  an -intention- to Rand Paul.  

I gave up that sort of thing decades ago.  I do not have the power of mental telepathy.  The only thoughts I can observe, sense and understand are my thoughts. I can only witness the public actions and effects of what others do and cause. For that reason I am loathe to impute intentions to other people.  I cannot get in their heads to see what it is they really intended to do or what it is they thought they can do. 

McCain should learn to express himself more precisely.  For all I know Rand Paul is working for Rand Paul or working for the U.S.  Perhaps Rand Paul thinks that admitting Montenegro into NATO is just plain silly.  If Montenegro is admitted, then why not admit the Vatican?  Why not admit West Fenwyck  (vide "The Mouse that Roared").  

[Jon Letendre]

McCain is blackmailed into oblivion.

He is not the one in control of what he says and does next.

Same for the HI judge, Pelosi, Schumer.... All shadow gov't puppets.

[Brant Gaede]

11 minutes ago, Jon Letendre said:

McCain is blackmailed into oblivion.

He is not the one in control of what he says and does next.

Same for the HI judge, Pelosi, Schumer.... All shadow gov't puppets.

Some senility in McCain and Pelosi may be involved too. Might as well be.

--Brant

[william.scherk]

Anti-De-Balkanizationalism!

I wonder if a Randian argument could be made that Rand Paul is a folk-dancer on this issue ... he always seems 'tired and emotional' to me, prone to stunts and hangovers.

4 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said:

11 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

John McCain: Rand Paul ‘Is Now Working for Vladimir Putin’

[...] The issue was over the small nation Montenegro joining NATO [...].

Rand Paul said no deal and McCain blew his stack.

If McCain had said "What Rand Paul advocates would be of benefit to Putin"  he might be onto something.  

-- from the link above:

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While speaking from the Senate floor in support of a bill advancing Montenegro’s bid to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), McCain noted objection from his Kentucky colleague, saying that if you oppose the measure, “You are achieving the objectives of Vladimir Putin... trying to dismember this small country which has already been the subject an attempted coup.”

McCain continued: “If they object, they are now carrying out the desires and ambitions of Vladimir Putin and I do not say that lightly.”

Several moments later, after the 80-year-old senator asked for unanimous consent to move the bill forward, Paul took the mic to raise his objection before dramatically exiting the room.

In response, McCain began railing against Paul, his voice trembling with anger: “I note the senator from Kentucky leaving the floor without justification or any rationale for the action he has just taken. That is really remarkable, that a senator blocking a treaty that is supported by the overwhelming number—perhaps 98, at least, of his colleagues—would come to the floor and object and walk away.”

He then directly connected Paul to the Russian government: “The only conclusion you can draw when he walks away is he has no justification for his objection to having a small nation be part of NATO that is under assault from the Russians.

“So I repeat again, the senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin.”

In a statement to The Daily Beast, a McCain spokesperson clarified the senator’s words, writing: “Senator McCain believes that the person who benefits the most from Congress’s failure to ratify Montenegro’s ascension to NATO is Vladimir Putin, whose government has sought to destroy the NATO alliance, erode confidence in America’s commitments to its allies, overthrow the duly-elected government of Montenegro, and undermine democratic institutions throughout Europe.”

His office further stated: “Senator McCain, and certainly the people of Montenegro, would appreciate an explanation from Senator Paul as to why he sought to prevent this small, brave country from joining in the defense of the free world.”

In response, Paul avoided the over-the-top nature of McCain’s initial attack, instead commenting on the policy issue at hand. “Currently, the United States has troops in dozens of countries and is actively fighting in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Yemen (with the occasional drone strike in Pakistan),” he told The Daily Beast.

“In addition, the United States is pledged to defend 28 countries in NATO. It is unwise to expand the monetary and military obligations of the United States given the burden of our $20 trillion debt.”

Paul’s NATO-skeptic words notably echo those of President Trump, who ran on backing away from involvement with the alliance, having called it “obsolete” and lamented how it “costs us a fortune.” McCain, of course, vehemently opposed such words.

There has already been a lot of ink spilled on the dispute. It shows, at least, a cost-effectiveness argument on Rand Paul's part. Simply put, that Montenegro NATO's membership is an unnecessary provocation, that Montenegro would be ever subsidized as a NATO member, could contribute only tiny relative amounts of actual soldiers and materiel, and would offer zero strategic advantage to the USA -- that Montenegro offers nothing in defense of the USA.

I make the best argument I can for the Kentucky senator's opposition to an unanimous motion. I distilled it in part from his remarks and reporting here at Hotair.com.  One pull quote:

“I’m not so sure what they add to our defense. So I’m not so sure it’s a great idea that somehow Montenegro’s going to defend the United States,” Paul told Reuters.
 

He has since refined his argument ...

Rand Paul Fires Back: McCain ‘Unhinged,’ ‘Past His Prime’

Edited March 16, 2017 by william.scherk
Nationalized the Folk Dance.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Pizzagate is taking an awfully strange turn:

Muslim Gang Attacks Danish Couple For Eating Ham On Pizza

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Is this true?

It sounds true.

And everytime I look, it looks true.

Except I would be tempted to add establishment pro-illegal-immigration anti-Trump conservatives and include the US.

Parts of England don't feel like England anymore. White, pro-immigration leftists all flock to the parts that do

That's the ultimate irony.

— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) March 21, 2017

Nah... it must be a conspiracy theory...

 

Michael

[william.scherk]

Guy says, "Parts of England don't feel like England anymore. White, pro-immigration leftists all flock to the parts that do. That's the ultimate irony."

4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Is this true?

It could be a pretty straightforward demographic  claim. The parts of England that don't feel like England anymore (to whom?) is quantifiable. Let's say Brixton, Bradford, and parts of Manchester and London. Why wouldn't these localities 'feel' like England? 

Well, because a place will feel like England if all the people in it are white and non-muslim -- like an early episode of Midsomer Murders?  Once the place adds black, brown, and otherwise non-white folk, it  doesn't "feel right"?

Something like that.

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It sounds true.

So, there you are counting 'white, pro-immigration leftists' ... all of them. Because all of them are 'flocking.'  They are in a mass on the move to more-white localities?  

Maybe. But how do you check your "feelings" about demographics? I'd say you search up some demographic facts to test the feelings. For example, if Paul Watson includes London in his mental map, then which places are receiving a flock of leftists, and which are not?

Moreover, how do you even roughly check -- would it makes sense to look at parliamentary constituencies of 'pure' England versus impure England, compare demographics from, eg, London under Johnson and London under the brown Muslim guy?

Maybe a larger field of inquiry and a 'falsifiable' hypothesis:  In London, left-progressive voters have been moving from 'dark' areas to 'light' areas, as evidenced by changing demographics captured in the last three or four electoral soundings: Brexit referendum, London mayor's race, the last UK election?.

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And everytime I look, it looks true.

What are you looking at that would help other readers see what you see as true?  Are leftist Londoners saturating the mostly-white neighbourhoods, pulling up stakes in 'brown' areas, and moving away?

Here I post a sample of the Racial Dot Map of Britain. We can use this  to find 'does not feel like England' places and then come up with further means to test the Watson Hypothesis.  As one Twitter voice said to Watson: "Do you have any numbers to back up that 'feeling'..?"

 

Edited March 21, 2017 by william.scherk
Spellinx

[Peter]

William wrote about England: Well, because a place will feel like England if all the people in it are white and non-muslim -- like an early episode of Midsomer Murders? end quote

I like the PBS show “The Doctor Blake Mysteries” which is set in Australia. You never see an aborigine and I don’t remember seeing any Muslims either. Great show! Very nice theme song you cannot get out of your head. And it takes place in a small city called Ballarat. I can’t say I would want to live in a place with “rat” in its name.

Canadians are North Americans very much like me. Australians are a bit foreign to me. But England is even more foreign-er.       

Peter

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I dunno...

These conspiracy theorists are just so darn persuasive.

For instance, here is David Horowitz talking with Alex Jones recently. And plugging his book, Big Agenda: President Trump’s Plan to Save America.

David says Progressivism (or liberalism, or communism or any of such left-wing isms) is a religious cult.

A secular religious cult.

And Progressives are religious cult members.

Now how's that for a conspiracy theory?

 

His reasoning is that, to Progressives, the defect in humanity (the Original Sin, so to speak) is that some groups oppress other groups. Some classes oppress other classes. This is metaphysical evil to them. The Devil doing his foul work (metaphorically speaking).

And if humanity can get rid of these oppressive nasty people, these emissaries of The Devil, there will be paradise on earth. Man is perfectible and utopia is a reality within grasp. All humans have to do is redeem themselves by purging the human race of these nasty oppressive Devil worshippers.

But who will do the redeeming? Who will perfect the human race? Who will create this utopia? Who will vanquish The Devil?

Td daa!

The Progressives, of course.

 

Now here's the odd way this has transformed in our culture. Since a lot of white people have been successful and the minorities to be found in regions where white folks live are mostly of a different melanin, the identity of the Progressive Devil Oppressor has morphed into successful white people in general. It used to be Capitalists or Jews. Now is it successful white people.

Thus, lefties can get in bed with Muslims, even the ones who are most oppressive to gays, women, etc. Kill them. Toss them off buildings. Stone them. Mutilate their genitals. Gang rape them. Hell, it's no big deal.

And how can the Progressives do this and not feel foolish? Because most Muslims are of a different melanin than whites. And if Muslims are mostly dark-skinned, they, by the current operating Progressive definition, cannot be the Oppressor Devil. And when the dark-skinned folks do bad things, they are just wayward brother and sister sojourners--brothers and sisters who have merely lost their way, or never had a chance, in the fight against the oppressive successful white people.

In other words, the fundamentalism of the secular religious cult called Progressivism has led them straight into a form of racism that makes them betray their professed foundational principles. They are now bigots, pure and simple. But they don't believe they are bigots because they are cult members. 

 

The Achilles Heel of the Democratic Party that Horowitz identifies is the following: the worst violent impoverished ghettos or inner city neighborhoods across America are all in failed cities run by Democrats. David calls these run-down neighborhoods Killing Fields. And he emphasizes that all, not some, but ALL of the Killing Fields in America belong to the Democrats. All of them.

What's worse, mostly black and brown folks are slaughtered in these Killing Fields, not white folks. And the bitch of it is, with rare exceptions, the Devil Oppressors in the Killing Fields--the ones who actually pull triggers and cut with knives and bludgeon with clubs--are not even white. Nor are the folks they kill. But the slaughter rate is high.

David doesn't say it, but these are the human sacrifices for the cult--the Progressive Cult that rules them.

Now how's that for a conspiracy theory?

   

Moreover, how's that for an Achilles Heel at voting time if someone is savvy enough to harp on it (like, say, someone who recently got elected did)?

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

As an added thought to the post above, this "conspiracy theory" by David Horowitz would explain the irrational hatred of President Trump and Trump supporters.

If the members of a religious cult believe the Devil has been elected leader, that is time to stage The Resistance!

Michael

[william.scherk]

Mohawk + Ironworking = Middle Class. 

10 hours ago, Peter said:

Canadians are North Americans very much like me.

It might depend on how you slice it.

 

8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The Achilles Heel of the Democratic Party that Horowitz identifies is that the worst violent impoverished ghettos or inner city neighborhoods across America are all in in failed cities run by Democrats. David calls these neighborhoods Killing Fields. And he emphasizes that all, not some, but ALL of the Killing Fields in America belong to the Democrats. All of them.

Sounds like Horowitz sees in black and white.  Are all poor 'ghettos' found only in cities ... and are the most violent places always in 'neighbourhoods' of failed cities?  

I can imagine starting a list of major cities that have 'ghettos' in the sense of poor and overwhelmingly of one race.  But I would keep an eye out for rates of poverty, rates of violence, rates of failure in areas not pre-selected for  attention. I mean, I would be alert to the entire USA as a land of extremes.

Surely I will find Neighbourhood X in Cleveland or Chicago or Miami, where racial agglomeration, poverty, violence and multiple types of failure coincide.  Like rates of education, rates of disease, mortality and life-expectancies, and also some measures of things like public health, social mobility, economic stasis or depression, unemployment, industrial decline. 

It might be that every last neighbourhood of despair in America is an urban ghetto under longtime rule by Democrats. That is the null hypothesis.

Additionally, can we say anything interesting in light of Horowitz's conclusions -- when we look at regions and areas beyond 'the inner cities'? (in some senses, "inner city" does not mean what it once meant. Consider Seattle, which I know well, or Portland, which I know less well.  Is there a violent impoverished 'inner city' ghetto in Seattle?  No.  Is there one in Portland? No.  

Well, why not?)

The Killing Fields makes me think of the opioid curse stalking Canada.  It also makes me think of other despairing pockets in America.  Does it matter if the area in distress is black or white, or brown, or a mix, and sometimes red-state rural?  

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What's worse, mostly black and brown folks are slaughtered in these Killing Fields, not white folks. And the bitch of it is, with rare exceptions, the Devil Oppressors in the Killing Fields--the ones who actually pull triggers and cut with knives and bludgeon with clubs--are not even white. Nor are the folks they kill. But the slaughter rate is high.

Now how's that for a conspiracy theory?

Needs a touch of detail, perhaps of geography and history, and some elaboration on scope of the Killing.  Ie, does anywhere in Kentucky qualify for the Field, or is it all pre-selected and filtered to give only black results?

I'd ramble on more, but the HP OfficeJet is experiencing Obama issues. Five computers, four phones and one tablet depend on it ... argh.

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Back to Pizzagate, it looks like Dr. Phil is jumping into the Pedogate thing (March 21, 2017 show).

I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I did see the following video by a right wing conspiracy dude (Michael DePinto) I like to check out once in awhile (he's a pretty amiable dude), which is where this got it from:

Here's a full article from a different site that probably needs some cross-checking, but you just can't fake Dr. Phil's show.

Mainstream Media Finally Exposes Elite Pedophile Rings in a Horrifying Episode of Dr. Phil

If this exposure by Dr. Phil does what I think it's going to do (even without names being named), this whole Pizzagate or Pedogate thing is going to a much different level in our culture. It's one thing to have it being pounded by bloggers and social media jockeys. It's quite another to go on a mainstream talk show like this that is beloved by millions and millions and millions of middle America people.

Stay tuned because this is going to get fun (if one can call exposing elite pedophiles fun).

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnd to lighten things up with our favorite conspiracy theorist:

LOL...

Michael

[william.scherk]

On 3/21/2017 at 9:02 AM, william.scherk said:

Guy says, "Parts of England don't feel like England anymore. White, pro-immigration leftists all flock to the parts that do. That's the ultimate irony."

On 3/21/2017 at 7:49 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Is this true?

It could be a pretty straightforward demographic  claim. The parts of England that don't feel like England anymore (to whom?) is quantifiable. Let's say Brixton, Bradford, and parts of Manchester and London. 

I saw London, I saw France.

Well, I saw Brixton. It's one of those boroughs-within that are remarkable about London -- with a heavy Caribbean-English population and a wildly popular market.

And I saw Stockwell, which combines many races and ethnicities, with a white majority chiefly salted by Portuguese/Brazilian, further lashings of folks with African roots, primarily Ethiopian and Eritrean, plus a sprinkle of African-Asians (like Ugandan shopkeepers who are Sikh or Hindu). Not a particularly Muslim place, but a stew pot of cosmopolitanism of which largest ingredient English.

My street in Stockwell ... with a Full-English breakfast joint, an Ethiopian cafe-internet, a Brazilian restaurant with patio and other locals.  Feel like England?  Well, in this case, you can look around. 

Here is my favourite corner of Brixton, besides the cool warrens of its market -- a big hair shop. If you want "African hair," this is the place. If you are a bald ugly clown, they have something for you ...

 

Brixton and Stockwell adjoin. Here is the Racial Dot Map close in, with other parts marked that I was interested in while in London:

 

On 3/21/2017 at 9:02 AM, william.scherk said:

Racial Dot Map of Britain. We can use this  to find 'does not feel like England' places and then come up with further means to test the Watson Hypothesis. 

So, the thing is, are white, pro-immigration leftists leaving the circled places for more purely white areas?  Because London-Asia or Stockwell or Camden Town  don't feel like England anymore, where are these leftists all flocking to?

One way of checking for Leftism is looking at political result maps. If the 'not-feel-English' non-whites are generally assumed to vote leftmost (for the British Labour party), then this can be confirmed or refuted. For example, what kinds of vote totals are obtained in the area I marked as Asia?

-- it looks like Labour votes grew. Could this mean that whites escaping from Asia voted Labour after moving to less-not-feeling-English places? Or could it be that residents in formerly-blue areas to the upper left said "Sod it, I am voting for Khan"?

It bears noting that Asian in the British context merely means origin. It does not tell you what religion lives in the heart. That is a separately calculated demographic statistic taken from the census. I've found mappable versions of that data from the UK census site. In this snapshot the darker the blue, the more Muslims:

 

-- this census result shows "Arab" concentrations via the Data Explorer:

Another fine mess is the concept of 'social mobility.' This can conflate distinct things like 'actual mobility' and 'socioeconomic mobility. But would it surprise anyone that the least mobile folks in England voted overwhelmingly for Brexit?

 

Edited March 24, 2017 by william.scherk
One more map!

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

David Seaman again.

Pizzagate, now Pedogate, just won't go away.

The pictures with comments David posts in this video are disturbing, especially the young child with hands taped to the table.

Michael

[william.scherk]

Russia Russia Russia!