anthony Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 2017/03/11 at 5:56 AM, william.scherk said: Sometimes you get a glimpse of yourself, or rather a sketch of yourself, while trying to find out something else entirely. Such a great instructive thread, Golden Rule, despite its lurches. It reminds me again of Barbara Branden's qualities of mind, the stability of her rudder, the precision of her scalpel. I miss her most, of all the VIPs. Looking forward to Spring. William, Barbara's thoughts of 'your version' of the Golden Rule aligning with rational selfishness would be interesting. I'd make a guess she agreed with you that one should - although secondarily - respond unto others as they treat you (which I summarize from what you've articulated). If it's mistreatment and discourtesy one gets, they are not justly deserving of one's good treatment, and it would be presumptuous of them to continue to expect such. They should be 'walked away from' before it becomes "self abasing", and as Nathaniel Branden answered to his critics post-Split, expecting him to make 'mea culpas': "I am not an altruist". As far as the Golden Rule goes - Doing unto others...etc. - I think it's entirely subsumed by the Objectivist virtue of *integrity*, having the confidence/courage to consistently act on one's totality of knowledge: always for one's convictions and values. In every situation, with any other person. That has an objective base, independent of variously mixed people's often subjective and much-mutable standard - "as you would have them do to you". (In integrity, I feel is the constant internal conflict that Israel faces and that you now allude to. How far can and should one go to save others "from themselves" (neighbors who have sworn your destruction), treating them by one's own objective standards, behaving faithfully to your own human and moral values - not theirs' - before it is "self-abasing" ... and self-destructive? And of course, unappreciated and presumed upon by all, enemies and observers alike? Israelis don't have the option of 'walking away'. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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