Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 SOS from NB and LeighI received an SOS email from Leigh just now.From what it looks like, she blasted it out to everyone on her email list, but I'm not sure. I looked in the hash in the email header and it looks legit, but there were a couple of things that gave me pause.Leigh said she and her family (which I presume is NB) are on a trip to Italy (Rome) and they got mugged. All their money, credit cards, etc., were taken, but they still managed to hold on to their passports. So she was in touch with the American Embassy, albeit she didn't sound too happy with the good ole' USA diplomatic corps.She said she was freaked out.Does someone have a way of verifying this and. if true, helping them out?Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 A well‐known scam works by telling a story like this and asking you to send money via Paypal. If she didn't ask for money it might be legit. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Pete,That's why I asked to verify.I wonder if anyone who is visiting friends with them could check in with them.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 SOS from NB and LeighI received an SOS email from Leigh just now.From what it looks like, she blasted it out to everyone on her email list, but I'm not sure. I looked in the hash in the email header and it looks legit, but there were a couple of things that gave me pause.Leigh said she and her family (which I presume is NB) are on a trip to Italy (Rome) and they got mugged. All their money, credit cards, etc., were taken, but they still managed to hold on to their passports. So she was in touch with the American Embassy, albeit she didn't sound too happy with the good ole' USA diplomatic corps.She said she was freaked out.This might be a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Did the message say "My family and myself a travel in Italy, and we are robbered. All money stole and a credit card to, but we do not have passport took." If so, it might be a scam. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Someone who knows Nathaniel really well needs to establish communication with Nathaniel/Leigh to determine if this is legitimate. If it is, then those who care about Nathaniel need do whatever is required to alleviate the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Someone who knows Nathaniel really well needs to establish communication with Nathaniel/Leigh to determine if this is legitimate. Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Send some money. If you never see it again, they're fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Leigh and Nathaniel are in LA and okay.--BrantI just called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Brant,Thank you.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Leigh and Nathaniel are in LA and okay.--BrantI just calledThanks Brant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Brant,Thank you.MichaelPlease forward the email to me at thisheer@aol.com--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Did the message say "My family and myself a travel in Italy, and we are robbered. All money stole and a credit card to, but we do not have passport took."If so, it might be a scam.Jlolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Send some money. If you never see it again, they're fine.I have never seen so much intelligence dressed in so much cynicism.--BrantNathaniel cannot travel to Italy and the time for dumping on him has passed--it's even passed for Leonard Peikoff--why?: they can't defend themselves, though for different reasons, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Please forward the email to me at thisheer@aol.comBrant,I just saw this. I'm sending it now.btw - I sent you 2--what I received and my response.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The Branden office just out a disclaiming email.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Send some money. If you never see it again, they're fine.I have never seen so much intelligence dressed in so much cynicism.--BrantNathaniel cannot travel to Italy and the time for dumping on him has passed--it's even passed for Leonard Peikoff--why?: they can't defend themselves, though for different reasons, I thinkBrant, I had the impression that this comment was only about the attempted scam, not about NB at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Send some money. If you never see it again, they're fine.I have never seen so much intelligence dressed in so much cynicism.--BrantNathaniel cannot travel to Italy and the time for dumping on him has passed--it's even passed for Leonard Peikoff--why?: they can't defend themselves, though for different reasons, I thinkBrant, I had the impression that this comment was only about the attempted scam, not about NB at all.This thread is not about Nathaniel and his wife? Only whether to send money to Nigeria? --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 My intent in starting the thread was to help NB and Leigh if the SOS was real, ask people to help verify if the request was legitimate, and find out whether they were all right.When I posted it, I knew I ran the risk of looking foolish since some warning bells went off in my mind when I looked at the email header hash, but I didn't know for sure. I wanted to know and, if the SOS were real, do something to help.I'm glad it was baloney. Simply put, I didn't--and don't--give a damn about looking foolish. People are free to think what they want. NB and Leigh are all right and that's what I do care about.As far as I'm concerned, this thread is a success for what I wished to accomplish.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 When I posted it, I knew I ran the risk of looking foolish since some warning bells went off in my mind when I looked at the email header hash, but I didn't know for sure. I wanted to know and, if the SOS were real, do something to help. I'm glad it was baloney. Simply put, I didn't--and don't--give a damn about looking foolish. People are free to think what they want. NB and Leigh are all right and that's what I do care about MichaelSpoken - acted - like a mensch. The higher value is not sacrificed to the lesser, or non value (Objectispeak). I'm glad they are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 My intent in starting the thread was to help NB and Leigh if the SOS was real, ask people to help verify if the request was legitimate, and find out whether they were all right.When I posted it, I knew I ran the risk of looking foolish since some warning bells went off in my mind when I looked at the email header hash, but I didn't know for sure. I wanted to know and, if the SOS were real, do something to help.I'm glad it was baloney. Simply put, I didn't--and don't--give a damn about looking foolish. People are free to think what they want. NB and Leigh are all right and that's what I do care about.As far as I'm concerned, this thread is a success for what I wished to accomplish.It may have alerted Leigh to what was going on.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 My intent in starting the thread was to help NB and Leigh if the SOS was real, ask people to help verify if the request was legitimate, and find out whether they were all right.When I posted it, I knew I ran the risk of looking foolish since some warning bells went off in my mind when I looked at the email header hash, but I didn't know for sure. I wanted to know and, if the SOS were real, do something to help.I'm glad it was baloney. Simply put, I didn't--and don't--give a damn about looking foolish. People are free to think what they want. NB and Leigh are all right and that's what I do care about.As far as I'm concerned, this thread is a success for what I wished to accomplish.MichaelI don't think you looked foolish.Michael, if you took my part in this thread as a dig at you, I apoligize. It wasn't intended that way.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Jonathan,Of course I didn't take it as a dig at me. Nor did I take any of the comments on this thread as a dig. I know my people (meaning the regulars around here). When you guys want to dig, you are generally not subtle. But OL has a lot of readers who do not participate--friendly, hostile, intelligent (mostly), ignorant, emotional, cerebral, left, right and so on. Each one brings to understanding the material his or her own context, experiences, biases, etc.Something clear to me or to you could prompt a different conclusion when filtered through a much different outlook on life.I made my comment so there would be no doubt to anyone who might interpret any of the comments on this thread as a dig. Also, I took the opportunity to articulate a perspective I find admirable, one that is typical of the better people who get involved with Rand's ideas.In fact, I believe my frame is what most all the OL regulars think and feel--the important part in an issue like this is for those we love to be well and the rest be damned.I might be wrong, but I don't think so.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 When you guys want to dig, you are generally not subtle. Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Phil lately? Is he okay? Has he gotten the professional help that he needs? I hope so.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Michael Stuart Kelly in post # 19 said: As far as I'm concerned, this thread is a success for what I wished to accomplish.Absolutely. For trying to find out whether the email is genuine was an indispensable first step to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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