syrakusos Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 .... and if you will allow me... this thing with geniuses commiting suicide, please, before you get all ideological on this, read about the case of Evariste Galois. As the replicant Roy Batty said in Blade Runner, "The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Michael,You are a hacker?Since when?I'm going to start believing in unicorns...(You seem to be a good interviewer, though. Good work.)Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrakusos Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Michael, You are a hacker? Since when?I'm going to start believing in unicorns...(You seem to be a good interviewer, though. Good work.)MichaelYou are perfectly free to believe whatever you want. But enough about me ... Thanks for the links in #46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 .... and if you will allow me... this thing with geniuses commiting suicide, please, before you get all ideological on this, read about the case of Evariste Galois. As the replicant Roy Batty said in Blade Runner, "The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long."I wonder if this story influenced Victor Hugo in the creation of a character so loved by Ayn Rand depicted in his masterpiece and described as "The marble lover of liberty."--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't see a detailed enough resemblance to convice, unless somebody has documentation that Hugo knew of the incident and said he was using it. Was Enjolras a mathematician? He didn't die in a duel.Dying young was trés chic in the romantic era, as the example of the various poets shows. The only possible way to hang on to your social cachet after 30 was to go mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 .... and if you will allow me... this thing with geniuses commiting suicide, please, before you get all ideological on this, read about the case of Evariste Galois. As the replicant Roy Batty said in Blade Runner, "The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long."Thank you so much for remembering Evriste Galois, the young mathematician who invented Group Theory, probably one of the most important branches of mathematics. Modern theoretical physics is to a great extent an exercise in Group Theory. It is regrettable that Evriste Galois was moved by his youthful many passions. If he had kept his temper, he might have produced first class mathematics for another 20 years. For those further interested please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't see a detailed enough resemblance to convice, unless somebody has documentation that Hugo knew of the incident and said he was using it. Was Enjolras a mathematician? He didn't die in a duel.Dying young was trés chic in the romantic era, as the example of the various poets shows. The only possible way to hang on to your social cachet after 30 was to go mad.It doesn't take much to get the creative juices flowing. Occupation and way of death in this case don't have to matter. I doubt too that he was any "marble lover of liberty." I certainly agree with your first sentence, however.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyau Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 .Report on MIT and the Prosecution of Aaron Swartz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Fragile Young Genius Crushed - RIP Aaron SchwartzAt 26 years old, Aaron Schwartz hung himself.Why?What was there to die for?He was one of the inventors of the RSS feed (at 14!). Co-founder of Reddit. Internet freedom activist.This last might explain it.He already suffered from depression. That's not good for someone who was looking at millions of dollars--which he did not have--in legal fees and possibly going to jail for decades. It was too much and he went over the edge. He hung himself.The USA government considered Aaron Schwartz a felon and was prosecuting him as such. His crime? He downloaded a crap-load of scientific papers he believed should be free to the public, especially seeing how public funds helped produce almost all of them.Now Aaron is dead and his persecutor, Carmen M. Ortiz, is alive. Not even JSTOR--the company behind the site he hacked--wanted to prosecute him. But US Attorney Ortiz did. She needed a high-profile win for her career. She needed to put a genius behind bars. She needed to show that smart-aleck who was boss.Well decades from now, people are still going to know who Aaron Schwartz was, they are still going to be using the wealth he helped produce from his precious mind. But nobody will remember Ortiz. And it won't matter two-hoots that she got appointed by Obama.Watch the video at the end and give a silent thank you to Aaron Schwartz for getting the anti-SOPA effort off the ground. If that seems remote, think about this. His work ultimately means you are still free to post on OL without government review or permission.Aaron lived long enough to learn that SOPA usurps freedom, that copyright law contains a seed that can easily grow into government tyranny. So people need to be vigilant in keeping that seed from sprouting. If you view the video, you will see that he did not live long enough to learn that Social Security comes with the same seed. I believe he would have realized it over time.But no longer.This is one David who got stomped by Goliath.It's a sad, sad day...Reddit co-founder commits suicideAaron Swartz, Precocious Programmer and Internet Activist, Dies at 26http://youtu.be/Fgh2dFngFsgMichaelLaying hands on intellectual property that one does not own is theft. Good intentions do not change that.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dldelancey Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Neither of the "victims" named in the indictment had any interest in a criminal prosecution. We often give lip-service to victimless crimes in these dicussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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