Heidar, which muslim worldviews advocate reason and individualism? Where are the muslim societies where these virtues are extolled without fear for ones life? I would like to know where these places may exist. We both know the answer though; they do not exist. A religious collectivist belief is one where the individual must submit his life, liberty, and judgment, to either a diety, a religious body, or both. Islam fits that description perfectly. I hear a lot of talk of tolerant muslims, but other than the org. mentioned above and a handful of outspoken individuals, I have yet to see this large body of reason oriented muslims. I would of course welcome such an influx in the muslim world, but it does not exist presently, nor do I see signs of one coming. In fact, the middle east is becoming more radicalized, as well as the muslim communities in Europe.