Fry & Hitchens debate

[9thdoctor]

This will be broadcast on the BBC November 7 & 8. It’ll probably hit youtube soon after.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewmcfbrown/100014133/intelligence-squared-debate-catholics-humiliated-by-christopher-hitchens-and-stephen-fry/

[9thdoctor]

It's up already, I haven't seen it all yet, it looks like it's well filmed and recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvZz_pxZ2lw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFTj9n40rNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-q8US0QRs4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRkfZzyfcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i391gBoEo58

[BaalChatzaf]

When is Chris Hitchens going to say what he really thinks?

Ba'al Chatzaf

[9thdoctor]

When is Chris Hitchens going to say what he really thinks?

Ba'al Chatzaf

Hitchens has less time than usual, so he fires off broad blasts to make the best use of his time. There are plenty of other debates with him on YouTube where he’s subtler. Stephen Fry doesn’t do these things (debates etc.) nearly as much, so for me he was the main draw here. He’s taken some heat, look at this: http://christopherhitchenswatch.blogspot.com/2009/10/our-passions-forge-our-fetters-part-2.html

strange how Hitchens and Fry are so horrified by sexual wrongdoing and yet both in this debate and elsewhere promote the kind of sexual libertinism and perversity that actually makes all of these problems worse (Fry himself, raped as a schoolboy, elsewhere thought it wise to glibly announce that he liked the experience and that there was too much fuss about this sort of thing (see his interview on Shrink Wrap with Pamela Stephenson)). Is the rape of boys only wrong when priests do it?

Here’s the interview they’re referencing, the relevant part starts just after 4 minutes in.

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Echoes of the Peron imbroglio?

[9thdoctor]

Get a load of this:

http://www.huffingto..._n_1784538.html

"Curths told the Oregonion that the child was out of breath, but begged for help because a man was chasing him. He and Rodriguez got ready to drive the boy to relatives when a man later identified as Perez ran over, wearing only his underwear."

You tell 'em, Hitch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqpcX5B74pw