Portend of things to come from Islamization

[galtgulch]

>>>"The following should be required reading for all Americans who do not know the Muslim way of life in it's total concept(which includes most of us). This is very informative and the last paragraph in red is really chilling.

Here's how it works:

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult; in it's fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system

of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social and military components. The religious

component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious rights.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their

religious rights, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. Here's how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most

part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States-- Muslim 0.6%

Australia-- Muslim 1.5%

Canada-- Muslim 1.9%

China-- Muslim 1.8%

Italy-- Muslim 1.5%

Norway-- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups,

often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany-- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom-- Muslim 2.7%

Spain-- Muslim 4%

Thailand-- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For

example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food

preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their

shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France-- Muslim 8%

Philippines-- Muslim 5%

Sweden-- Muslim 5%

Switzerland-- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos)

under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a

means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim

action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam ,

with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in

Muslim sections, in:

Guyana-- Muslim 10%

India-- Muslim 13.4%

Israel-- Muslim 16%

Kenya-- Muslim 10%

Russia-- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic

killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues such as in:

Ethiopia-- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia-- Muslim 40%

Chad-- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon-- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions

(including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and

Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania-- Muslim 70%

Malaysia-- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar-- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan-- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some

genocide as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been

experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh-- Muslim 83%

Egypt-- Muslim 90%

Gaza-- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia-- Muslim 86.1%

Iran-- Muslim 98%

Iraq-- Muslim 97%

Jordan-- Muslim 92%

Morocco-- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan-- Muslim 97%

Palestine-- Muslim 99%

Syria-- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan-- Muslim 90%

Turkey-- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates-- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's

supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is

the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan-- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia-- Muslim 100%

Somalia-- Muslim 100%

Yemen-- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace in never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother

against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe the tribe

against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations,

such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within

which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national

courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the

community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists

exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates

dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will

exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Unfortunately this is not only a well conceived and executed plan for the overthrow of the West and ALL other religions, history bears out that this is documented, factual information.

I am not a bigot or alarmist but if you follow the news and world events you can see it happening before your very eyes. The Ottoman Empire could well reemerge if we are not vigilant.

Be concerned, very concerned ... in fact be SCARED! "<<<

[Mike11]

Wow.

I'm not touching that with a ten foot poll.

I did look up this Hammond guy though. Turns out fags are a bunch of pedoes and criminals who spread disease while Rhodesia was a State which embodied Christian ideals.

I am the type who discounts an argument based on the sources used.

[Chris Grieb]

Joel; Thanks for your post.

As in another post I remain very concerned about Islam. It is not a religion of peace.

[BaalChatzaf]

Joel; Thanks for your post.

As in another post I remain very concerned about Islam. It is not a religion of peace.

Islam means submission (to the will of God), not peace. Who determines the Will of God? The local imam, of course.

Once Popes and Imams achieve power and authority, great trouble follows.

I am convinced that -organized- religion is a force multiplier for evil.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[georgedonnelly]

Islam ... is not a religion of peace.

Hold on. Let's separate the religion from its practitioners.

This is similar to the line of reasoning that damns Objectivism for Ayn Rand's personality foibles.

Edited June 12, 2008 by George Donnelly

[georgedonnelly]

The part about "religious rights" reminds me of the multicultaralism that was being advocated in the 80's.

My reaction to your post is that it's:

- alarmist and therefore to be taken with a lot of salt.

- not well-substantiated or reasoned.

There's nothing wrong with asking for halal food. Obviously initiation of force is not to be tolerated and we need a strong police force to do that. Unfortunately so much money is wasted on nonsense that funding for police is scarce.

[galtgulch]

Wow.

I'm not touching that with a ten foot poll.

I did look up this Hammond guy though. Turns out fags are a bunch of pedoes and criminals who spread disease while Rhodesia was a State which embodied Christian ideals.

I am the type who discounts an argument based on the sources used.

The post at the beginning of this thread based on a book I have not read was intended to start a dialogue on the subject. To discount the obvious contention out of hand is equivalent to putting ones head in the sand. Obviously the issue of whether there is any truth whatsoever to the assertions needs to be clarified. I am too busy earning a living to do any of that job.

However the question remains that if the premise is true that as the number of adherents to that faith grows in any country and throughout the world that the result would be establishment of that faith in power universally with the result that no one who does not share that believe system would be safe or free for long.

So it is not a question to be ignored. If only it could be stopped by the spread of Objectivism "somehow!"

I would rather teach their children Ayn Rand's philosophy than have to sleep with one eye open.

galt

[Darrell Hougen]

I agree with the general premise. Islam is one of the most dangerous forces in the world today. If you are interested in learning more, I would suggest reading Mark Steyn's book, "America Alone." Or, he has a website that discusses such issues from time to time. Unfortunately, I don't think he is posting right now. He is taking a break after defending himself and Maclean's in a lawsuit brought by a Muslim group in Canada because Maclean's published an excerpt from the afore mentioned book. Canada, along with most of the Western world, does not have the same protection for freedom of speech that the United States has. By the way, I've read the book and it is very reasonable. It discusses the ways in which the multicultural West is capitulating to Islam.

By the way, while Islam is one of the most dangerous forces in the world, it is certainly not the only one. The tendency towards socialism remains a powerful and dangerous force. Multiculturalism is also a powerful and dangerous force. However, the combination of forces leads to some laughably funny situations. Gays suing Muslim groups for homophobia and Muslim groups suing gays for Islamophobia for suing them in the first place. Actually, I'm not sure who sued who first. This occurred in England which considers slandering people of certain minority groups a crime and gets back to the lack of protection for freedom of speech in much of the Western world. Almost all speech is protected in the United States unless it involves an imminent threat of violence --- someone calling for the lynching of a black man in the midst of a bunch of white men --- or if it is commercial speech(!). (Imagine that, in the freest and supposedly most capitalist country in the world, commercial speech is not protected, for the most part, but I digress ...)

Other websites to visit include the Brussel's Journal and the Gates of Vienna Blog:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

Darrell

Edited June 21, 2008 by Darrell Hougen

[Darrell Hougen]

Another good reference is Daniel Pipe's website:

http://www.danielpipes.org/

Darrell

[Mike11]

Another good reference is Daniel Pipe's website:

http://www.danielpipes.org/

Darrell

There are two kinds of people in this world. People who cite Pipes and people who don't.

[Darrell Hougen]

Another good reference is Daniel Pipe's website:

http://www.danielpipes.org/

Darrell

There are two kinds of people in this world. People who cite Pipes and people who don't.

This sounds like the beginning of a joke ...

Darrell

[Selene]

Galtgulch:

You raised an excellent point: " The religious

component is a beard for all of the other components."

I am not 100% convinced that you/others are correct, but I am moving that way.

Here is Dr. Hammond's professional vitae.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/affili...ond_peterCV.pdf

Adam

[galtgulch]

Galtgulch:

You raised an excellent point: " The religious

component is a beard for all of the other components."

I am not 100% convinced that you/others are correct, but I am moving that way.

Here is Dr. Hammond's professional vitae.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/affili...ond_peterCV.pdf

Adam

Adam, I am unable to find myself posting what you quoted me as saying?

But since you point out that I "raised an excellent point" i hesitate to disavow it altogether!

The initial post above at the top of this thread includes nothing that I said. I have always lived with a certain amount of dread especially of totalitarian dictatorships, Nazi concentration camps, the Holy Roman and Spanish Inquisitions, bullies in school, drunken sociopaths on the subway, and violent people in general. I have acquired a profound fear of the IRS and I am unwilling to risk signing any of the seven Schulz petitions (GiveMeLiberty.org) nor to be the one to hand the petition in to my Congressman. As if they don't have my number!

I love Vince Flynn political thrillers and wish his hero really did exist to save us all from the bad guys.

Just hoping that this country could get its act together so my grandchildren will not have to deal with fanatical zealots intent on destroying infidels and heretics like myself.

The guy whose stuff I posted appears to be well credentialed. Thanks for the link.

In the meantime hoping the www.DVDs4Delegates.com project succeeds in giving us the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul in November. I can't imagine how BB can bring herself to vote for McCain (see McCain vs McCain on youtube.com)

Ron Paul started www.campaignforliberty.com which has over 61,000 signed up already. Purpose is to support candidates for office who are determined to take over the Republican Party and return to Constitutional limits on government. Bring troops home from the 826 military bases overseas in 130 c ountries, abolish the IRS and the Federal Reserve Bank, gold standard, 100% banking reserve etc.

Hopefully pro choice minds will prevail re woman's right to choose in the meantime.

Wm

[BaalChatzaf]

Another good reference is Daniel Pipe's website:

http://www.danielpipes.org/

Darrell

There are two kinds of people in this world. People who cite Pipes and people who don't.

There are two types of people in the world: those who bifurcate humanity and those who don't.

Ba'al Chatzaf