Link to appealing site regarding Capitalism

[galtgulch]

I have not taken the full tour but thought you all might enjoy this "

http://capitalism.org/home.htm

Wm

[Mike11]

Didn't know capitalism had an effect on the death penalty.

[georgedonnelly]

Didn't know capitalism had an effect on the death penalty.

the death penalty is where a majority decide that under certain conditions it is ok to initiate deadly force against a person.

As the site says, capitalism is all about individual rights, so since when do you have the right to initiate force against someone else? It's a basic issue.

[Brant Gaede]

Didn't know capitalism had an effect on the death penalty.

the death penalty is where a majority decide that under certain conditions it is ok to initiate deadly force against a person.

As the site says, capitalism is all about individual rights, so since when do you have the right to initiate force against someone else? It's a basic issue.

What, then, is retaliatory force? If there is no such thing, we have a basic problem.

--Brant

Edited May 19, 2008 by Brant Gaede

[georgedonnelly]

Didn't know capitalism had an effect on the death penalty.

the death penalty is where a majority decide that under certain conditions it is ok to initiate deadly force against a person.

As the site says, capitalism is all about individual rights, so since when do you have the right to initiate force against someone else? It's a basic issue.

What, then, is retaliatory force? If there is no such thing, we have a basic problem.

When you jail someone for murder, you are using retaliatory force (I guess). It seems more like defensive force, but that's my own spur-of-the-moment term. The term 'retaliatory force' sounds like someone hit you, so you hit them back, tit for tat. Maybe that concept includes both the tit for tat and also restraining someone else from initiating force.

Anyway, my point is that imprisonment is sufficient retaliatory force and I think the death penalty edges over into initiation of force, since it's not strictly required in order to achieve of the ostensible goal of keeping the criminal from initiating force again.

[Chris Grieb]

Brant's reply reminded me of Bob Lafavre who raised the question whether one could cut the ropes the burgular had tied you with if the burgular brought the rope. It is statements like the above which lead me to say I am not a "Libertarian".

[Mike11]

All I was trying to say is the site tries to pass off a lot of material as essential to Capitalism. I think in Randian I meant it was a series of "package deals".