Vote Fraud and the Upcoming Elections

[Steve Gagne]

This is a letter from someone who has been on the topic since forever.

The GOP does what ever it can to make Elections turn out the way they see fit Neo-Cons rule tru the Voting Machines!

NOTHING is ever done in the open. It would be impossible to devise a more totalitarian, Un-American way to run an election, i.e., hiding all the ballots (evidence) from the people and the candidates.

EVERYTHING – with regard to the ballots (the evidence) was conducted IN THE DARK, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, and BEHIND POLICE GUARD.

COMPUTERIZED, SECRET COUNT USED IN IOWA STRAW POLL TO BE USED IN ALL PRIMARIES, and HALF OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AGAINST RON PAUL

This is why our “Vote in Sunshine” / Citizens for a Fair Vote Count coalition went to Ames, Iowa for the Straw Poll. This is why many of you donated over $5000 on short notice to help us make this happen! WE needed to raise this computerized votefraud issue EARLY – because the Ruling Elite in NYC and DC have been using this weapon (computerized votefraud) to control elections in the USA since at least as far back as 1988. (Remember, we have only Bushes and Clintons in the White House since 1988.)

In all 49 states and half of New Hamsphire, all votes are “counted” at all elections by one of four computer companies, namely Diebold, ES &S, Hart, and Sequioa. These four companies actually “count” 96% of the US vote.

How is this possible? This is possible because between 1973 and 1988 – the Super Criminals behind the Republican National Committee, the Democratic National Committee strong-armed 3100+ counties to (unconstitutionally) delegate the counting authority to one of these four Computerized Votefraud Syndicate companies.

The big TV Network corporations (ABC, CBS, NBC, and now CNN and FOX) work hand in glove with the four “compuer-vote-counting” companies to pull off this scam on the American people. And, of course, the Big TV Networks are controlled by the same ruthless crowd that controls the computerized voting machines, and the RNC, and the DNC. (That’s why the BIG TV Networks protect, with the exception of a few minor exposures, the computerized “counting” of our USA vote; it’s also why they minimize and censor Presidential Candidate Ron Paul.)

Call your local county if you do not believe me. Ask them if you and other citizens can count the ballots to double check the computers on election night – before the ballots disappear? Ultimately you will be told that you will be arrested if you try to do so, unless you live in one of those ten proud counties in New Hampshire, where the elections are still counted by the neighborhood citizens, by hand and in the open – machine free and computer free.

WE WENT TO AMES, IOWA TO EXPOSE THE COMPUTERIZED VOTEFRAUD SYNDICATE EARLY SO THEY COULDN’T DO TO RON PAUL in 2008 WHAT THEY DID TO PAT BUCHANAN in the 1990s.

Our Vote in Sunshine / Citizens for a Fair Vote Count Coalition went to Ames, Iowa to raise this issue at the earliest opportunity. See some of the confrontations with the “police state” Iowa GOP operatives at voteinsunshine.com –

What we didn’t expect was to have all the Presidential Campaigns sit on the sidelines and betray their supporters by not insisting on an open count.

Naturally, 95% of those awake to this issue are Ron Paul Supporters. But we didn’t expect the paid staffers of the campaign to not only sit on their hands, but to also lock arms with the Iowa GOP to protect the hiding of all the ballots (evidence) from the people and the candidates and the press.

Furthermore, the paid staffers of the Ron Paul campaign also told all the volunteers NOT to help verify the vote. So, HUNDREDS of able bodied young men were holding signs and chanting ONLY, instead of helping us try and get a fair vote for Ron Paul and everybody else at the Ames Straw Poll. More on this incredible behavior of the paid staff in a future update in this series.

Meanwhile, Walter Reddy of Connecticut (the William Wallace of Ames, Iowa 2007), Greg Gorey of Texas, Emily of Texas – and about 8 other individuals performed the heroic task of documenting how many people voted, and collected about 900 voter verification card and affidavits to try and double-check the real count. (That was about 6% of those who voted; if some campus police hadn’t let the IOWA GOP use them to scare off almost half of our volunteers, and if the RP paid staff hadn’t told volunteers not to help us, or failed to tell them how to contact us, then we could have gotten maybe 7000 to 10,000 voter verification cards and affidavits. (Almost nobody we talked to or ran into was comfortable with the Diebold computers, and those who seemed to be just waved us off with a smile as if they thought it was “out of bounds”, meaning they probably hadn’t looked into the subject at all.)

THIS UNPLEASANT SUBJECT MUST BE RAISED NOW

So now, we have the paid RP campaign staff saying that HIDING the ballots from the Ron Paul Campaign and the people and the press – is doing everything “in the open” ?

This is unpleasant – but the behavior of PAID RP campaign staff must be raised at this point – before it is too late.

THE BATTLE IS RAGING NOW

The battle is raging NOW. We just took a big defeat in Ames, Iowa because all the paid campaign staff we encountered told the volunteers NOT to help us verify the vote – and the campaign itself did NOTHING to help verify the vote.

The paid staff all seemed to be totally devoted to playing kissy-face, huggy-bear with the crooks at the Iowa GOP – who HID all the ballots (evidence), then came out on stage and announced their alleged vote count --- which the RP paid staff seems to be happy to take on BLIND FAITH.

As I said, the battle is raging NOW. There is no time to battle-train or potty-train Jesse Benton and the other PAID staffers who are, de facto, betraying the Ron Paul Campaign, Ron Paul, all the millions of volunteers, and America – by locking arms with the Iowa GOP, the RNC, the DNC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and FOX – to protect the Computer-Votefraud Syndicate.

Hey, Benton! Spend 20 minutes on votefraud.org and educate yourself on the computerized votefraud problem – or resign immediately.

I’M WORKING FOR RON PAUL AND AMERICA – NOT FOR WHOEVER THESE QUIZZICAL PEOPLE ARE ON THE PAID STAFF OF THE RON PAUL CAMPAIGN

I don’t care a WHIT for sparing the political reputation of Jesse Benton, the Iowa GOP with whom he is in bed with (along with the rest of the paid staff on the Ron Paul Campaign, as far as we can tell), or sparing Kent Snyder, Lew Moore, or Joe Seehusan (heads of the RP campaign at national and in Iowa).

I CARE FOR Dr. RON PAUL, CAROL PAUL, and the millions of SINCERE volunteers who are pouring their hearts out for this campaign.

And why are the volunteers pouring their hearts out? To save America from the encroaching police state and world tyranny of the Ruling Elite of the CFR, New World Order, etc. in D.C. and NYC.

And the TWO MAIN WEAPONS being used to bury and defeat the one candidate, Ron Paul, who would turn American around on all front towards the Constitution – is the media suppression being perpetrated by the 5 Big TV Networks against the Ron Paul Campaign (which the paid staff absolutely refuses to challenge), -- and THE COMPUTERIZED VOTEFRAUD SYNDICATE, which can fix any key election, except in those ten counties in NH which are machine-free, computer-free and still count the votes in the open and by hand.

For the record, when asked, Ron Paul did NOT distance himself from concern about the way the votes were to be counted. Ron Paul told the press when asked about our federal lawsuit, that, “. . . now is the time to ask questions.”

We also know from people on our team who talked to Carol Paul and Ron Paul in Ames, Iowa that they are both worried about the suppression of their campaign by the Big Media – and by the secretive vote counting systems that are being used to count the vote for the contests related to Presidential Election 2008.

See the Homepage at >>> votefraud.org – be sure to answer the confirmation email.)

Jim Condit Jr.

Director, Citizens for a Fair Vote Count

www.votefraud.org --

PO Box 11339, Cincinnati, Ohio 45211

votefraud@fuse.net

[Chris Grieb]

A quick look at this post suggests it is the hard Left's attempt to prove the last two Presidential elections were fraudulent.

Edited October 5, 2007 by Chris Grieb

[Steve Gagne]

A quick look at this post suggests it is the hard Left's attempt to prove the last two Presidential elections were fraudulent.

Actually this guy is more concerned with the 88 & 96 elections, when so called "moderate" repubs took the nominations rather than the conservative candidates. What we ended up with was Bush sr. & Clinton.

[tjohnson]

Wow, it WOULD be awfully easy to change data in a computer and with no other way to verify the results - who's to know?

[BaalChatzaf]

Wow, it WOULD be awfully easy to change data in a computer and with no other way to verify the results - who's to know?

Paper trail. But if one is going to print stuff why not use a paper ballot in the first place?

Ba'al Chatzaf

[Dragonfly]

Wow, it WOULD be awfully easy to change data in a computer and with no other way to verify the results - who's to know?

There is a discussion going on in the Netherlands, where voting computers were almost universally used until now. A group of hackers has shown that it is fairly easy to tamper with them (and there has been evidence of tampering in practice), and they even succeeded in reprogramming such a voting computer with a chess program (not a very good one as there wasn't much memory available, but it still could play chess). Probably they are now going back to paper voting until a better computer system is available.

[Chris Grieb]

Paper ballots will take more time to count but they took time to count in our past. Bring back paper ballots. One issue that isn't mentioned is that in the US we have more offices and issues being voted on so that the counting takes longer. Eliminate offices and issues being voted on.

Edited October 5, 2007 by Chris Grieb

[Steve Gagne]

Wow, it WOULD be awfully easy to change data in a computer and with no other way to verify the results - who's to know?

Paper trail. But if one is going to print stuff why not use a paper ballot in the first place?

Ba'al Chatzaf

Bob --

What this guy Jim Condit is talking about is that these systems produce no paper trails. What has been happening is that an expected outcome is announced for a particular election ahead of time. Then when the election occurs, exit polls show an entirely different set of numbers. But then the votes are "counted", and voila, the results match what was "predicted" before the voting occurred. But there's a problem...the "actual" numbers read from the machine and reported to the public don't match the actual count of people voting. (e.g., It looks like at least 40% of the votes from the last Iowa straw poll went missing.) And a "recount" consists of verifying that these skewed figures were read correctly from the machine, since there is no audit trail of the actual votes.

As I mentioned to Chris, this guy has already documented how the same thing happened in 1988 and 1996.

steve