Marcus Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 On 4/7/2016 at 0:16 AM, KorbenDallas said: Marcus, In the act of defiance, the defier is giving the manipulator(s) information. It's just something to think about. Manipulators--to do the manipulating--are taking advantage of some virtue(s) in their target. This is always the case, and identifying which one(s) is necessary. It could be the virtue of rationality itself--for a logician's need to conclude things, manipulators might want to leave things undone, in disarray--or it could be a virtue of resiliency--where others might fold, a person with high resiliency might stay in the fight--or it could be the virtue of justice--a righteous person seeking rectitude in the world he lives in. (If some of these words sound like Nathaniel Branden's, you would be right.) Many of Rand's heroes would walk away from situations, but I don't think this is an act of defiance--I think it is an expression of liberty, of freedom. Unfortunately, in a reoccurring situation this might not be possible, ie. an office environment. One thing is for sure, these (adult) manipulators have done this before, to other people. If the manipulator has acquired some position of power whether social or political, "walking away" may not be a viable option. To go against his/her wishes would then be defiance. It is possible for them to gain enough power to hurt or damage the virtuous, the good, but only if the good is compliant. Also, manipulation does not require virtue, it preys upon some vice (such as emotionalism or evasion) of other men. To make manipulators the rulers of virtuous men would mean the virtuous are impotent. In reality, it's the opposite. Manipulators "feed on sores" as Rand would put it. (Interestingly, she portrayed her villains just as they are often portrayed in popular fiction, i.e. sickly, gangly, sniveling, conniving little busybodies, but ultimately, foiled by the hero) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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