moralist Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 North Korea wrecks Sony's computer system... and the US wrecks North Korea's internet.I think that's a fair trade. North Korea goes completely offline: ReportEverett Rosenfeld | @Ev_Rosenfeld 40 Mins AgoCNBC.comhttp://www.cnbc.com/id/102289459 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Considering that only members of the North Korean ruling elite (the Kims and their retainers) are allowed access to the internet, the response is not really proportional.But it does have the look of war.Robert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zantonavitch Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Civilization never defeated barbarism "proportionally." Good never defeated Evil "proportionally." This dreadful word indicates an upcoming tit-for-tat-, Israeli/Arabic-style appeasement. It means no victory in this war against North Korea will be forthcoming. The life of man qua man demands triumph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Civilization never defeated barbarism "proportionally." Good never defeated Evil "proportionally." This dreadful word indicates an upcoming tit-for-tat-, Israeli/Arabic-style appeasement. It means no victory in this war against North Korea will be forthcoming. The life of man qua man demands triumph. You are so right, Kyrel.Either get medieval on their ass or don't even bother fighting at all. Anything else in between is as sure a loser as not fighting. It is impossible to win a weak limp-wristed feminized liberal politically correct "war".The virtual cyberworld is definitely the new battlefield.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I think we had better serious consider speeding up the development of quantum computers in this country. The are inherently difficult or impossible to hack. Also our power, water and gas delivery systems had better have a reliable manual fallback mode just in case. As to N. Korea, I think we should stop up their toilets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Understanding that it is only a matter of time before personal computers become potential collateral damage, I store nothing in my computer, and only use it for news, information, YouTube, forums, emails, and gaming. I can format the hard drive, re install the complete version of Windows from the DVD disk and start all over without losing one byte of information. This is my response to cyber warfare. To live as if I don't have a computer.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I think we had better serious consider speeding up the development of quantum computers in this country. The are inherently difficult or impossible to hack. Also our power, water and gas delivery systems had better have a reliable manual fallback mode just in case. As to N. Korea, I think we should stop up their toilets. They have toilets?--Brantwhat else don't I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I think we had better serious consider speeding up the development of quantum computers in this country. The are inherently difficult or impossible to hack. Also our power, water and gas delivery systems had better have a reliable manual fallback mode just in case. As to N. Korea, I think we should stop up their toilets. They have toilets?--Brantwhat else don't I know?Fat Kim and his lackeys do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Understanding that it is only a matter of time before personal computers become potential collateral damage, I store nothing in my computer, and only use it for news, information, YouTube, forums, emails, and gaming. I can format the hard drive, re install the complete version of Windows from the DVD disk and start all over without losing one byte of information. This is my response to cyber warfare. To live as if I don't have a computer.GregThe main hazard is having your computer bugged in such a way that it sends out lots of e-mail to other computers carrying viruses or becomes an output source to effect a denial of service on another computer. So not only do I not store vital data on my computer, but I turn it off, power down when I am not using it and I even pull the ether net cable from my modem when I am away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 New warfare? Okay. Just don't forget the old warfare.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I was going to say, except for the Kims and the top military brass, we'd have to find a way to disable their outhouses.Remember, this is a country that is nearly all dark on a clear night as seen from orbit.Robert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Serious retaliation would entail taking out North Korea's closed internal network:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/23/us-northkorea-cyberattack-outage-idUSKBN0K10HN20141223Robert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zantonavitch Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 North Korea threatens a new 9/11 and America retaliates with a nine-hour outage of their microscopic internet/intranet? Pathetic. Even 3 or 4 cruise missiles sent to their nuclear weapons facilities would be a radical improvement. The raw evil of the term, standard, and ideal of "proportionality" stands revealed. Israel has been "proportional" to the Arabs for over half a century now. The noble Jews never once tried for a true victory. And you know what? They never got one. All their appeasement of evil and tyranny, and all their niceness to their enemies, has been entirely counterproductive. A single clear victory over the Arabs would have changed things radically for the better, for both sides.Take their money, natural resources, and land! Kill all their leaders! How hard is this for Western Civilization (sic) to understand or do?Ours is a world of stunning philosophical and political ignorance. A true irrational illiberal Dark Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 North Korea threatens a new 9/11 and America retaliates with a nine-hour outage of their microscopic internet/intranet? Pathetic. Even 3 or 4 cruise missiles sent to their nuclear weapons facilities would be a radical improvement. The raw evil of the term, standard, and ideal of "proportionality" stands revealed. Israel has been "proportional" to the Arabs for over half a century now. The noble Jews never once tried for a true victory. And you know what? They never got one. All their appeasement of evil and tyranny, and all their niceness to their enemies, has been entirely counterproductive. A single clear victory over the Arabs would have changed things radically for the better, for both sides.Take their money, natural resources, and land! Kill all their leaders! How hard is this for Western Civilization (sic) to understand or do?Ours is a world of stunning philosophical and political ignorance. A true irrational illiberal Dark Age.The Chinese neighbors of North Korea might object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 You bide your time and figure things out. What's this reactively going to war? For instance, did North Korea do this? Russia? Both together? What could have been the motivation? To gauge the technical quality of the retaliation? To prepare a bigger attack? Against who, what? The big worry about NK is not its jejune nuclear capability--so far--or its cyber war capabilities, but that it could rain thousands of short-range missiles armed with conventional warheads down on the South Korean capital in a continuous barrage. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Troy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 He had to have blew a gasket over this one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 New warfare? Okay. Just don't forget the old warfare.--BrantAmerica forgot the old warfare after Korea.Feminized liberal politically correct "warfare" is responsible for the string of defeats since then.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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