moralist Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That's ok, Brant. It would be a tough sell trying to defend the current state of the US government. So I'll let it go. You didn't have to insult my grandfather for writing the definitive biography of James Madison. --Brant you're probably the first My New Deal grandfather seemingly understood this when he invoked Madison to support Roosevelt's domestic policies before Congress. Sorry, Brant. It's not personal and has nothing to do with you. It's just an opinion about something that was a long time ago. I don't think much of politicians who pimped for FDR's big government programs... just as I don't think much of politicians who pimp for big government programs today. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Sorry, Brant. It's not personal and has nothing to do with you. It's just an opinion about something that was a long time ago. I don't think much of politicians who pimped for FDR's big government programs... just as I don't think much of politicians who pimp for big government programs today.GregWe hates them, Precioussssss.....Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That's ok, Brant. It would be a tough selltrying to defendthe current stateof the US government.So I'll let it go. You didn't have to insult my grandfather for writing the definitive biography of James Madison.--Brantyou're probably the firstMy New Deal grandfather seemingly understood this when he invoked Madison to support Roosevelt's domestic policies before Congress.Sorry, Brant. It's not personal and has nothing to do with you. It's just an opinion about something that was a long time ago. I don't think much of politicians who pimped for FDR's big government programs... just as I don't think much of politicians who pimp for big government programs today.GregSigh. You don't hang half the man pretending the rest of him doesn't exist. Irving Brant deserves historical and even your censure for being a New Dealer, but not as a human being who made a fool of himself spending over twenty years researching and writing a biography of a most important but badly remembered President done with admirable scholarship. Rose Wilder Lane, as radical a libertarian as any ever, practically drooled over getting the next volume in spite of its "New Deal bias" since it was so obvious and aboveboard. I know what set you off and I know the rest of the sentence went blank for you and still is blank because you didn't quote it. I could go semantical and say he wasn't a politician too, but that would be injustice from me. You and I are on different levels of exactness. I can say you over-generalize, and I have, but you can say I get too particular, which I'm sure I do sometimes, which wouldn't gainsay the value that might be there in one and the other.--Branthey, that's nothing; my father was a crypto-Nazi: hang him if you want; I won't feel bad or angry; wait for my American-Firster post about what he did in the years just before WWII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That's ok, Brant. It would be a tough sell trying to defend the current state of the US government. So I'll let it go. You didn't have to insult my grandfather for writing the definitive biography of James Madison. --Brant you're probably the first My New Deal grandfather seemingly understood this when he invoked Madison to support Roosevelt's domestic policies before Congress. Sorry, Brant. It's not personal and has nothing to do with you. It's just an opinion about something that was a long time ago. I don't think much of politicians who pimped for FDR's big government programs... just as I don't think much of politicians who pimp for big government programs today. Greg Sigh. You don't hang half the man pretending the rest of him doesn't exist. Irving Brant deserves historical and even your censure for being a New Dealer, but not as a human being who made a fool of himself spending over twenty years researching and writing a biography of a most important but badly remembered President done with admirable scholarship. Rose Wilder Lane, as radical a libertarian as any ever, practically drooled over getting the next volume in spite of its "New Deal bias" since it was so obvious and aboveboard. I know what set you off and I know the rest of the sentence went blank for you and still is blank because you didn't quote it. I could go semantical and say he wasn't a politician too, but that would be injustice from me. You and I are on different levels of exactness. I can say you over-generalize, and I have, but you can say I get too particular, which I'm sure I do sometimes, which wouldn't gainsay the value that might be there in one and the other. --Brant hey, that's nothing; my father was a crypto-Nazi: hang him if you want; I won't feel bad or angry; wait for my American-Firster post about what he did in the years just before WWII It's completely impossible for one opinion of just one person out of billions of people on Earth to "hang" anyone, Brant. While I can appreciate you wanting to make an issue out of this because he was your ancestor, someone who was in a position of public responsibility and used it to make the rotten parasite infested government bureaucracy larger affected hundreds of millions of people. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No, no, no. You are completely oblivious about what was important and valuable about him which is my whole point and which puts you out of your depth. I'm not trying to change you but I won't let you get away with it, not for you but for him. Maybe you aren't out of your depth, though; maybe it's simply no overlap between his world as a constitutional expert, writer, scholar and yours. Probably it's that "view" thingy again. He also wrote, BTW, The Bill of Rights, Its Origin and Meaning. You know, about the freedoms infecting hundreds of millions of Americans today, yesterday and tomorrow and the English heroes who made them possible.--Brantepistemological and moral molasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No, no, no. You are completely oblivious about what was important and valuable about him which is my whole point and which puts you out of your depth. I'm not trying to change you but I won't let you get away with it, not for you but for him. Maybe you aren't out of your depth, though; maybe it's simply no overlap between his world as a constitutional expert, writer, scholar and yours. Probably it's that "view" thingy again. --Brant epistemological molasses That's a totally insightful assessment, Brant. You got it! There is no overlap in our worlds. Government funded academics are completely useless in my world. My world is where people make things work. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No, no, no. You are completely oblivious about what was important and valuable about him which is my whole point and which puts you out of your depth. I'm not trying to change you but I won't let you get away with it, not for you but for him. Maybe you aren't out of your depth, though; maybe it's simply no overlap between his world as a constitutional expert, writer, scholar and yours. Probably it's that "view" thingy again.--Brantepistemological molassesThat's a totally insightful assessment, Brant. You got it! There is no overlap in our worlds.Government funded academics are completely useless in my world. My world is where people make things work. GregNo. Academics, scholars and intellectuals and their works are. "Government funded" is only icing on your cake.--Brantget rid of "government funded"--I'm all for thatI can drive an 18 wheeler, a nail and a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Greg:Out of curiosity, does your particular brand of Christianity have an exclusionary tenet that forbids respecting your elders? And I do not mean Brant.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No, no, no. You are completely oblivious about what was important and valuable about him which is my whole point and which puts you out of your depth. I'm not trying to change you but I won't let you get away with it, not for you but for him. Maybe you aren't out of your depth, though; maybe it's simply no overlap between his world as a constitutional expert, writer, scholar and yours. Probably it's that "view" thingy again. --Brant epistemological molasses That's a totally insightful assessment, Brant. You got it! There is no overlap in our worlds. Government funded academics are completely useless in my world. My world is where people make things work. Greg No. Academics, scholars and intellectuals and their works are. "Government funded" is only icing on your cake. --Brant get rid of "government funded"--I'm all for that I can drive an 18 wheeler, a nail and a bargain No. Not your world. There's no overlap between my world and the world of "FDR New Deal" big government loving politicians. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The necessary congruence between the intellectual world and big government a la Greg makes no sense simply because there is so much of it. Talk about having your Ayn Rand and eating her too!--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The necessary congruence between the intellectual world and big government... "Intellect and big government" is oxymoronic. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 The necessary congruence between the intellectual world and big government..."Intellect and big government" is oxymoronic. GregPeople who make the above statement are ________________________. Fill in the blank folks...Additionally, and I am no grammarian. Wouldn't it be "are?"A...Not grammatically gifted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 "Is" is fine. It refers to a statement, not its parts.--Brantnot a grammarian either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The necessary congruence between the intellectual world and big government... "Intellect and big government" is oxymoronic. Greg People who make the above statement are ________________________. Fill in the blank folks... Additionally, and I am no grammarian. Wouldn't it be "are?" A... Not grammatically gifted... The oxymoronic combination of intellect and big government would be singular, so it would be "is". Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 "Is" is fine. It refers to a statement, not its parts.--Brantnot a grammarian eitherWell...that does "...depend on what the meaning of 'is,' 'is."' the imortal words of William Jefferson Clinton, good 'ole boy! First Black President. Second to be impeached.Or, as his girl friends refer to him, B.J., no not the one in M.A.S.H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Ah, the happy couple... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 How about this happy couple... [url=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/10/article-2521202-1A00534A00000578-749_634x364.jpg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have always believed that Lady Macbeth was the power behind the marxist...and she has a lot of pent up anger...A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have always believed that Lady Macbeth was the power behind the marxist... and she has a lot of pent up anger... A... I bet Obama got his ass whooped on the Air Force One flight home! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 When I saw POTUS , at a memorial service, participating in a 'group' "selfie", it made me wonder whether or not plants really do crave electrolytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 When I saw POTUS , at a memorial service, participating in a 'group' "selfie", it made me wonder whether or not plants really do crave electrolytesCould you explain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It was reference to a movie titled Idiocracy, a dystopic comedy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It was reference to a movie titled Idiocracy, a dystopic comedy . We love that movie and have watched it countless times! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 How about this happy couple...[url=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/10/article-2521202-1A00534A00000578-749_634x364.jpg]Who is the babe (I don't mean Michelle)? Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 How about this happy couple...[url=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/10/article-2521202-1A00534A00000578-749_634x364.jpg]Who is the babe (I don't mean Michelle)? Ba'al ChatzafI believe she is the Prime Minister of Denmark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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